Alexandra Robbins on The View Today

[Taualumna]

Miss Robbins should just have written a novel. I flipped through her book last month when I was at a bookstore, and her book didn't even have an index. I expected a book like that to have one.

[DawnDZ]

heres the website:

http://abc.go.com/daytime/theview/index.html

The only way to correct something is to go to the source. You can email all of the members of the view on the website. I think you should tell them your point of you. I didn't get to see the episode but maybe if enough people write in they'll make a public apology, not likely but atleast its an attempt to make them understand there is more to sororities then looks, shopping, and our relationships with men. Its Disappointing that Joy Behar didn't stand up for us. Thats one individual who allowed the rest of us to look bad. I am disappointed to call her a sister.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
I wish I could have seen this.

I'm sure this has been discussed, but how does Ms. Robbins know what goes on in hist. black sororities as opposed to hist. white ones?

Granted, she did go undercover during an NPC rush, and is basing her findings off of that ONE experience, but what is she basing her experience with hist. black sororities from? Heresay?

ETA: Boo @ Joy for not sticking up for her sorority (or sororities in general).

She's actually very complimentary towards NPHC groups. I guess she took what she knew about achievement and activity at the alumnae level, and how more black women in major positions of power discuss their sorority membership quite openly, as well as the fact that the chapters are usually smaller, etc. There's an article in some sociological journal called, "Getting ahead or getting a man?" which compares the aims of historically black v. historically white sororities. She interviewed those who wrote their dissertations on the Greek system, as well as alumnae of NPHC groups. I guess they were much more cooperative than NPC groups.

I'm sorry, but I'm not losing any sleep over what the View had to say about Greek Life. Not every Greek alum looks back on their time with fondness--and some simply do not care, or agree with, statements made against the Greek system.

[ASUADPi]

Now I didn't see it.

As for Joy... here are my thoughts. I can only imagine how I would be. Being a Greek to find out that the show I work on is interviewing some bee-atch that wrote a story giving in to the stereotypes of Greeks I would be BEYOND PISSED. I would have to keep quiet otherwise they would have to A)cancel the segment, B) edit it terribly or C) tell my ass to leave. B/C I would have been BITCHING her out. I would have been standing up for my sorority and telling this chick that she is full of SHIT.

Now can you imagine if Joy felt the same way as me. She would be smart to keep her mouth shut.

Yes, it is annoying because she should have defended us, but she could have lost her job for doing that. That might not have been a chance she was willing to take.

Does anyone else think that we all should be writing in letters/stories to magazines and newspapers saying the benefits of being Greek?

This crap that is going around really makes me want to write a letter saying everything I've gained from being in a sorority. The leadership qualities I've attained. The friendships I've made. Etc...

I would really love for our National HQ to "respond" to this by releasing a statement to the press saying positives about being Greek.

Ugh. This whole thing just really pisses me off.

Sorry if I offended anyone with my earlier ranting.
Bri

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
...Not every Greek alum looks back on their time with fondness--and some simply do not care, or agree with, statements made against the Greek system.

Maybe that is how Joy felt.
Maybe Joy did not speak up because she didn't not look fondly at her time as a collegian. However, she also knows that Robbins book is not an accurate portrayal of the greek systems and she felt that it would best for her to stay silent.

On the other hand, she might have been silent because she had to hold her tongue

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
Maybe that is how Joy felt.
Maybe Joy did not speak up because she didn't not look fondly at her time as a collegian. However, she also knows that Robbins book is not an accurate portrayal of the greek systems and she felt that it would best for her to stay silent.

On the other hand, she might have been silent because she had to hold her tongue

Co-sign. I think that some GC folks take it personally when a celebrity isn't as gung-ho about their affiliation as we might be. For some people, it really is just a college thing. Others had experiences as an alumna (as I have) that would make one want to separate from the organization. People change and grow, and some decide that Greek Life isn't for them as adults.

When NPC groups have so much graduation attrition, why are some so hurt when we see someone who does the same thing as half our chapter did--who just happens to be famous?

I don't know--I felt like it was a pretty good representation of Greek life. It made me laugh, and there were definitely girls in the book that reminded me of my sisters. But what do I know?

[dzandiloo]

I am not offended/annoyed by Joy's silence...I probably would have done the same thing. I am offended by Meredith's blanket statement that summed up all sororities as without morals, based solely on this stupid book. Oh well. I've moved on....

I just wish, as someone said further up thread, that someone would write a "tell all" book about being Greek that extolled the virtues of the experience...I don't mean they should leave out the not-so-pretty part of true Greek life, but with all of us who have good things to say, why hasn't that been published?

Oh wait-maybe it's because our national org's have forbidden us from contributing to anything like that for fear that we will reveal some of the unpleasant side.... *sigh*

[33girl]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
When NPC groups have so much graduation attrition, why are some so hurt when we see someone who does the same thing as half our chapter did--who just happens to be famous?

I think that if your sorority's national site is trumpeting the fact that you're a famous alumna, and you don't want them to either because you think it's "just a college thing" or because you had a bad experience, you should ask them to not post your name on the site or publicize it.

I'm inclined to believe that Joy was told to keep her mouth shut in this case, so as not to derail her fellow Disney employee's publicity train.

[_Lisa_]

I'll definitely be writing an email to The View to express my concern with the show. Don't worry, it will be very polite & concise. I hope other Greek women take a stand as well.

[ADPiShannan]

Do you think emailing each of the View women and stating how I disagree with what they said and telling them how diff my experience was would be a bad thing? I am not going to state which sorority I am in and I am not going to yell at them or say anything offense. I just want them all to know how wrong they truly are as is the book and that I was offended with the comments made, esp by Meredith and Barbara. I plan to email all of them and send a copy of my email to ABC. I think this is perfectly fine though because I am not saying anything rude nor giving them my affiliation.

Do ya'll think that would be ok? I just think its bad if I dont comment about my feelings.

[maggieaxid]

Last night I saw Alexandra Robbins on Access Hollywood- you know a show that prides itself on telling the truth! (notice the sarcastic tone). She was talking about Skull & Bones and how she is an expert on the organization and how she breached their walls and learned all their secrets.
I'm sorry, but she is sooo full of it! I don't know much about Skull & Bones, but I am pretty sure it's been around for more than a hundred years and they have kept their secrets out of the public, they sure as hell aren't gonna let Ms. Robbins in on them.

Also, if you read "Pledged" (insert sarcastic comment here) she mentions how she could pass for a 19 year old college student. Um, after seeing last nights interview- I really don't think she could have.

I have finished my rant.

[mu_agd]

Originally posted by maggieaxid
Last night I saw Alexandra Robbins on Access Hollywood- you know a show that prides itself on telling the truth! (notice the sarcastic tone).

i haven't said anything about the book in any threads, that i can recall, but what i read in the book wasn't too far off from things i saw at school and what i know that happens at other schools. so in a way.. yeah it's the truth. i saw stuff like what she talked about throughout my four years in college. although it wasn't limited to sororities and fraternities, it happened with others as well. but honestly, to say that what she wrote about is false, is not the truth.

eta: maggieaxid, i just want to add that i'm not pointing to you personally. looking at it, it may seem that way.

eta again: b/c i made no sense!

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by mu_agd
i haven't said anything about the book in any threads, that i can recall, but what i read in the book wasn't too far off from things i saw at school and what i know that happens at other schools. so in a way.. yeah it's the truth. i saw stuff like what she talked about throughout my four years in college. although it wasn't limited to sororities and fraternities, it happened with others as well. but honestly, to say that what she wrote about is false, is not the truth.

Co-sign. Sometimes I would think, "Wait a minute! This is MY house!" and I went to a pretty anti-Greek campus and a tiny liberal-arts school.

[maggieaxid]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mu_agd


eta: maggieaxid, i just want to add that i'm not pointing to you personally. looking at it, it may seem that way.


I never said anything that implied that what she said about sororities didn't hold some merit. I merely was stating in a ranting way, that you can't take this woman's views as gospel truth. And it irritates me that when she is interviewed (like on "The View" and "Access Hollywood" that she is praised for her work in "uncovering the truth".

[mu_agd]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by maggieaxid

Originally posted by mu_agd


eta: maggieaxid, i just want to add that i'm not pointing to you personally. looking at it, it may seem that way.


I never said anything that implied that what she said about sororities didn't hold some merit. I merely was stating in a ranting way, that you can't take this woman's views as gospel truth. And it irritates me that when she is interviewed (like on "The View" and "Access Hollywood" that she is praised for her work in "uncovering the truth".

i didn't say you did, that's why i added the eta that i wasn't pointing my comment to you even though i quoted part of it. i had just wanted to quote any statement about the book not being the truth and yours just happened to be the one that was right there. once again, i never said i was pointing at you personally, that looking at my post it may seem that way. i wanted to say that her book was pretty damn accurate for many large greek systems and to say that it wasn't true at all was false.