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05-18-2004, 01:32 PM
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Right. Cant we all just agree that Chingy sucks and anyone who wants to emulate him in any way should be savagely beaten?
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05-18-2004, 01:44 PM
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Right. Cant we all just agree that Chingy sucks...?
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Yes, that I can agree with.
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05-18-2004, 01:51 PM
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Right. Cant we all just agree that Chingy sucks and anyone who wants to emulate him in any way should be savagely beaten?
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Yes.
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05-18-2004, 01:56 PM
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I never new until this was posted in jan. what blackface was or that it was offensive..
This may sound ignorant, but what is so offensive about it?
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05-18-2004, 02:26 PM
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Have you ever watched old movie with people dressed up in balck face? Did you notice they were the butt of jokes? If you had, you would realize that they weren'tn imitating balck people, they were making fun of them. Which is how you would know it would be offensive today. It doesn't require a complete history lesson, it requires a little common sense.
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But no one ever said that he was trying to make fun of Chingy or any other black person. He was trying to "imitate" a black person.
I know the history behind "blackface" and I'm not saying I would have chosen to dress up like that, but I think that this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. It was a costume for a theme party, not an "anti-black" statement.
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05-18-2004, 02:43 PM
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I have a similar question. Jimmy Fallon and Darrell Hammond of SNL have used makeup to look like black celebrities. Are the problems the people on this board have with imitation of famous black people or actual minstrel show blackface, with the shoe polish and white, rounded eyes look?
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05-18-2004, 03:12 PM
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Since people seem incapable of doing a simple search on Blackface, its historical context and why it might be offensive to someone here ya go. You may not share the same sentiment and honestly that really doesn't matter but here ya go so you can't say you weren't informed. As for comedians doing it, I hate it personally when anyone paints their face. It's not necessary for me to paint myself peach to imitate Rikki Lake and to think you do is a problem, but it's not my problem.
Blackface on Campus
Blackface from Jim Crow to Hip Hop
History of Blackface
Racial Co(option)--Visiualizing Whiteness in a Suburban Space
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05-18-2004, 03:35 PM
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But no one ever said that he was trying to make fun of Chingy or any other black person. He was trying to "imitate" a black person.
I know the history behind "blackface" and I'm not saying I would have chosen to dress up like that, but I think that this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. It was a costume for a theme party, not an "anti-black" statement.
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You don't have to be making fun of someone to have it be offensive.
An outfit worn by Chingy or other rapper or artists or whatever theme you're going for can be just as effective without using balckface.
Sure, you might not be able to get it on the first guess and you might have to ask who that person is dressed up as, but you can get the point across.
Like others have said black people don't have to paint their face white to come dress as a white celebrity.
A black female could come dressed in chaps, some skimpy underwear, a bikin top and a blonde wig and people might guess she's come dress as Christina Aguilera, but she doesn't have to paint her face white.
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05-18-2004, 08:30 PM
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The point was why have costume parties at all.
She didn't say every college party is a costume party.
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Because they are fun.
And, when I said that I still don't know the history about blackface, I meant that yeah duh I know it's offensive, but I don't know what the REAL history behind it is. Instead of people goin off on people and calling them racist and ignorant, why doesn't someone explain it, please? (ETA... sorry didn't read the rest of the thread)
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As for the young lady who didn't have blackface mentioned in her PERSUASION SPEECH class...girl bye. I wouldn't expect blackface to be mentioned in a PERSUASION SPEECH class, especially not one dealing w/ the Civil Rights era. Blackface was quite a ways before that sweetie. "My teacher didn't teach me about blackface," is not an excuse. There are certain things that you just know are offensive or inappropriate.
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Why "bye"? Why be rude? I wouldn't expect my whole Theories of Persuasion Speech class to be a history lesson in black civil rights, but it was. And since I don't know the history behind blackface, then how am I supposed to know that it was way before that, sweetie? I KNOW they are offensive.
Blah blah blah. That's how these threads always end up.
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05-18-2004, 08:30 PM
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damn, damn, damn...how many threads can we have on this subject?
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05-18-2004, 09:18 PM
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Because they are fun.
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That's subjective.
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05-18-2004, 09:21 PM
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That's subjective.
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Lol come to a UofM-Dearborn party and you'll wish every party had something goin on. Normal parties are just 100 or so people, not even, hmm barely even college students, walking around trashed. If I wanted that I'd go to the bars in Windsor!
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05-18-2004, 09:33 PM
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Lol come to a UofM-Dearborn party and you'll wish every party had something goin on. Normal parties are just 100 or so people, not even, hmm barely even college students, walking around trashed. If I wanted that I'd go to the bars in Windsor!
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That's too bad. You went to the wrong school then.
The parties I go to you don't need to dress up to have a good time (hey maybe that should be the theme for the next afterschool special?)
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05-18-2004, 09:35 PM
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That's too bad. You went to the wrong school then.
The parties I go to you don't need to dress up to have a good time (hey maybe that should be the theme for the next afterschool special?)
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when i was in school...the npc and ifc frats always had those dress up parties, but no one EVER donned anything remotely offensive.
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05-18-2004, 10:03 PM
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And Fantasia Burrito is going to lose American Idol, because she is black - or will she WIN because she is black?
Well, its a toss up, just ask Elton John.
I don't see what the big deal, it doesn't matter, its always the white mans fault.
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