Psycho/Stalker PNM's?! - Page 5

aopinthesky · #1 10-19-2004, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
However, you get a fleur-de-les or something, that is weird.

I am of French decent so the fleur-de-lis is important to me also - I have a lot of them in my home although I am obviously not a Kappa.

DeltaBetaBaby · #2 10-19-2004, 10:18 PM

Sorry, no offense intended. I just learned something new. I was just trying to think of an example that was pretty unique to a sorority.

GreekFreak · #3 10-19-2004, 10:36 PM

Well this might be a bit off-topic since we're discussing psycho PNMs, but just THANK GOD (or your higher power of choice) these girls weren't found out to be psychos AFTER they pledged and were initiated!

I don't look back fondly on the token "psycho" of my chapter back in the day. It's funny how you never forget these things. This happened years ago, but just the other night, while talking on the phone with one of my best friends/sorority sisters, the topic of psycho people came up and my friend's like, "God, I remember how stressed we were that "Brenda" (not her real name) was going to commit suicide in the bathroom"...this happened every weekend! Let me tell you, having police cars and an ambulance in front of your chapter house every Saturday night can start to take a toll on your image, or at least make people wonder.

And ohhhhh, how I don't miss the snickers and comments from fellow Greeks who were privy to Brenda's latest crazy antics and psycho stunts. She was banned from one fraternity because she - and I'm not lying - showed up with a GUN and walked around with the thing pointed at her head, threatening to end it all if her boyfriend didn't take her back.

She was eventually asked to leave the house (they didn't force her to resign though) and almost got kicked out of school 'cuz she was so messed up. Ah, the sh*tty ol' days (some of them).

Again, this is off-topic, but I couldn't resist sharing what I consider a horror story. Some people.

winneythepooh7 · #4 10-19-2004, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by GreekFreak
Well this might be a bit off-topic since we're discussing psycho PNMs, but just THANK GOD (or your higher power of choice) these girls weren't found out to be psychos AFTER they pledged and were initiated!

I don't look back fondly on the token "psycho" of my chapter back in the day. It's funny how you never forget these things. This happened years ago, but just the other night, while talking on the phone with one of my best friends/sorority sisters, the topic of psycho people came up and my friend's like, "God, I remember how stressed we were that "Brenda" (not her real name) was going to commit suicide in the bathroom"...this happened every weekend! Let me tell you, having police cars and an ambulance in front of your chapter house every Saturday night can start to take a toll on your image, or at least make people wonder.

And ohhhhh, how I don't miss the snickers and comments from fellow Greeks who were privy to Brenda's latest crazy antics and psycho stunts. She was banned from one fraternity because she - and I'm not lying - showed up with a GUN and walked around with the thing pointed at her head, threatening to end it all if her boyfriend didn't take her back.

She was eventually asked to leave the house (they didn't force her to resign though) and almost got kicked out of school 'cuz she was so messed up. Ah, the sh*tty ol' days (some of them).

Again, this is off-topic, but I couldn't resist sharing what I consider a horror story. Some people.

Just as an aside many people with mental illness have their first "breaks" when they are in college. As we all know, sorority life can be very stressful and push people over the edge, as "crazy" as that sounds. I certainly remember people in my chapter becoming overwhelmed at times with greek life in general. I know this is an extreme situation, but I think it is something that all sorority members should be aware of. Unfortunately, I don't think that college students unless affected personally by mental illness have any knowledge of it. I know I didn't while I was in school. I know of a sister in my chapter who tried to commit suicide the semester before I joined. I think that many sorority members because they may have never dealt personally with these types of situations don't know how to deal with it, and unfortunately, like in the case you mentioned, because of this, things get out of hand. Since I graduated in 1998 I don't know if things have changed for the better regarding mental health issues, awareness, and students, but I hope so. Anyone have any thoughts/comments?

KSUViolet06 · #5 10-19-2004, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by winneythepooh7
Just as an aside many people with mental illness have their first "breaks" when they are in college. As we all know, sorority life can be very stressful and push people over the edge, as "crazy" as that sounds. I certainly remember people in my chapter becoming overwhelmed at times with greek life in general. I know this is an extreme situation, but I think it is something that all sorority members should be aware of. Unfortunately, I don't think that college students unless affected personally by mental illness have any knowledge of it. I know I didn't while I was in school. I know of a sister in my chapter who tried to commit suicide the semester before I joined. I think that many sorority members because they may have never dealt personally with these types of situations don't know how to deal with it, and unfortunately, like in the case you mentioned, because of this, things get out of hand. Since I graduated in 1998 I don't know if things have changed for the better regarding mental health issues, awareness, and students, but I hope so. Anyone have any thoughts/comments?

No, I can fully relate to this. I remember feeling overwhelmed many times. I just thank God I had a support system and it didn't get to that extreme.

preciousjeni · #6 10-20-2004, 04:03 AM

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Originally posted by winneythepooh7
Just as an aside many people with mental illness have their first "breaks" when they are in college. As we all know, sorority life can be very stressful and push people over the edge, as "crazy" as that sounds. I certainly remember people in my chapter becoming overwhelmed at times with greek life in general. I know this is an extreme situation, but I think it is something that all sorority members should be aware of. Unfortunately, I don't think that college students unless affected personally by mental illness have any knowledge of it. I know I didn't while I was in school. I know of a sister in my chapter who tried to commit suicide the semester before I joined. I think that many sorority members because they may have never dealt personally with these types of situations don't know how to deal with it, and unfortunately, like in the case you mentioned, because of this, things get out of hand. Since I graduated in 1998 I don't know if things have changed for the better regarding mental health issues, awareness, and students, but I hope so. Anyone have any thoughts/comments?

I'm afraid there are still way too many people who just consider mental illness "crazy" and would prefer to sweep it under the rug than to confront it head on. It's a shame that young college students leave school before getting help. Perhaps this is a topic for Greek seminars (or at least part of a topic!)

AGDee · #7 10-20-2004, 05:42 AM

The age of onset for most mental illnesses happens to be your late teens/early 20's whether you're in college or not, whether you're in a sorority or not. In rare cases, the "biochemical" illnesses such as bi-polar disorder and schizophrenia occur in younger children, but the majority begin during the late teen/early adulthood phases, so it would not be surprising that young people could experience their first "break" while at college.

Dee

kddani · #8 10-20-2004, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by GreekFreak
Well this might be a bit off-topic since we're discussing psycho PNMs, but just THANK GOD (or your higher power of choice) these girls weren't found out to be psychos AFTER they pledged and were initiated!

I don't look back fondly on the token "psycho" of my chapter back in the day. It's funny how you never forget these things. This happened years ago, but just the other night, while talking on the phone with one of my best friends/sorority sisters, the topic of psycho people came up and my friend's like, "God, I remember how stressed we were that "Brenda" (not her real name) was going to commit suicide in the bathroom"...this happened every weekend! Let me tell you, having police cars and an ambulance in front of your chapter house every Saturday night can start to take a toll on your image, or at least make people wonder.

And ohhhhh, how I don't miss the snickers and comments from fellow Greeks who were privy to Brenda's latest crazy antics and psycho stunts. She was banned from one fraternity because she - and I'm not lying - showed up with a GUN and walked around with the thing pointed at her head, threatening to end it all if her boyfriend didn't take her back.

She was eventually asked to leave the house (they didn't force her to resign though) and almost got kicked out of school 'cuz she was so messed up. Ah, the sh*tty ol' days (some of them).

Again, this is off-topic, but I couldn't resist sharing what I consider a horror story. Some people.

Well if all of her sisters were as supportive as you, it's no surprise that she had these problems and continued to have these problems.

Obviously you haven't told the whole story, but maybe if you actually tried to get her some help she wouldn't have caused all that drama.

I also wonder if you're stretching the truth to make the story more entertaining. Showing up anywhere with a guy like that and threatening to kill someone will either get you thrown in jail or a mental institution.

Bottom line, if she was your sister, you should be ashamed to talk such trash on her now and didn't even bother to get her help then.

adpiucf · #9 10-20-2004, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
I'm afraid there are still way too many people who just consider mental illness "crazy" and would prefer to sweep it under the rug than to confront it head on. It's a shame that young college students leave school before getting help. Perhaps this is a topic for Greek seminars (or at least part of a topic!)

Great idea for a Greek seminar!

KSUViolet06 · #10 10-20-2004, 09:20 AM

In the future, let's please stick to PNM's. I don't want anyone in here talking about their chapter sisters.

chioprincess · #11 10-21-2004, 04:07 PM

So one year we had this girl come through recruitment. She wasn't memorable or anything. Anyways after recruitment, I went out for breakfast and I saw her, not remembering who she was and she was talking to me about how much she loved my sorority etc.. I was flattered and thanked her. She then told me she didn't get a bid and was practically crying over it. I have a soft spot for people who cry so I felt bad for her, and tried to console her.

A couple days later we received a letter from her telling us how much she loved us and how she wishes she was one of us and blah blah blah. It was touching but we had quota and there was obviously a reason she was dropped before hand. The next thing you know she is sending us chocolates and leaving letters for us all the time. She was roomates with one of our new members and her mother called up the new member and asked what was so great about her that we accepted her and not her daughter. It was so scary.

Sometimes she would just invite herself over the house and just sit on our couch. We were like.. umm you have to go now, we're getting ready for chapter. I felt so bad, but it was sort of scary and irritating.

I think she got the hint, and I do see her around campus and I say hi but I'm still a little freaked out by her!

GreekFreak · #12 10-21-2004, 07:46 PM

In retrospect, my post probably did come off as harsh, judgemental, and as some have intimated, gossipy. My point was that in rare instances, some women (as it was in the case I described) look to their sorority to provide support when dealing with issues that are best dealt with by mental health pros or social service workers, even addiction counselors. To me, if a PNM is acting the way some have described in this thread, it's probably a red flag of sorts. And it's probably better that they're not a member of your chapter after all, because believe me, it's emotionally draining for everyone else.

kddani, just so you know, I don't need to "stretch" the truth because in this case, truth is much more dramatic than fiction. You have no idea. It's easy to be smug and write it all off as "the chapter should've supported their sister", but the problem is, that's the same manipulative line "Brenda" used to make the chapter hesitant to hold her accountable to her behavior.

The chapter absolutely bent over backwards numerous times to help (counseling, etc). The university also tried to help and, as a last resort, told her if she couldn't "get it together" (her behavior was that destructive) she would be kicked out of school. Our nationals absolutely wanted her out, but our chapter felt it wouldn't be right to terminate her, so they just asked her to leave mid-semester, after much soul searching.

At any rate, while silly and sometimes creepy, at the same time I think "psycho PNMs" like the ones described in this thread can be a red flag too. Good luck picking out the good ones!

KSUViolet06 · #13 10-28-2004, 01:30 PM

*bumping*

SDTSarah · #14 02-21-2005, 03:23 PM

I know this is an old thread, but I have a story.

We had a PNM repeatedly out one of our Rho Gammas. She was trying to tell everyone about how many girls she knew in SDT (she actually knew a fair amount of girls)...I guess she thought she was cool because she knew the PG's affiliation? Anyway, after the first time, another sister who knew her sat her down and said that it was perfectly fine to talk about the SDTs she knew, etc. etc...but obviously to refrain from talking about the PG. The PNM continued, even talking about it during mock rush. Here's the best part...
When the sister confronted her again, the PNM said our rush chair had outed the PG! Hahahaha...yeah, right.

Obvoiusly, she got cut, although she did get a bid from another sorority.

LightBulb · #15 02-21-2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by elizlang_ast
Okay, this wasn't just an individual psycho PNM, it was a whole group...

AST is on a few campuses where they are the only NPC sorority. On this particular campus, AST had been there a good 40+ years. Anyway, one of the local groups, not knowing the official way of "going National" and not bothering to find out, decided on their choice by looking up the other NPC sororities on the internet. Once they found the sorority they liked (btw, it was b/c of the colors and the mascot that they made their choice), they all went out and got letter shirts, t-shirts, buttons, car stickers, etc. and proclaimed themselves members of XYZ! Needless to say, XYZ's headquarters got word of their "new chapter" rather quickly and called the group to say that they were flattered by their choice, but they had gone about it the wrong way...

Aww, cute but sad