sister who wants to deactivate to join another sorority

[exlurker]

Originally posted by AOII_LB93
Actually I read that you can indeed join another sorority if you dissaffiliate but you have to wait 5 years or something like that...so basically you wouldn't be a collegiate anyhow. It would be more of an alum initiation thing. . . .

Well, the information that you read was almost certainly wrong. There's no waiting period "exception." Unanimous Agreement #1 of the NPC, as published on the NPC national web site, is:

"A woman who is or who has ever been an initiated member of an existing NPC fraternity shall not be eligible for membership in another NPC fraternity."

So a woman who gets initiated, but later disaffiliates, would therefore never be eligible to be a member of another NPC group.
Same thing if the NPC sorority that initiated her terminates her membership -- she is not eligible to join another NPC sorority.

[AXJules]

This just happened to us this year.

"Suzie" joined our house through fall Rush 2002. We all liked her, but she quit a few days before initiation b/c she thought she could do better.

This year she rushed as a junior and joined the house across the street (which, interestingly enough, is where she always said she wanted to wind up).

[aopinthesky]

Originally posted by AXJules
This just happened to us this year.

"Suzie" joined our house through fall Rush 2002. We all liked her, but she quit a few days before initiation b/c she thought she could do better.

This year she rushed as a junior and joined the house across the street (which, interestingly enough, is where she always said she wanted to wind up).

That is not the same as being initiated into one NPC then being intiated into another. I assume that someone is free to "pledge" as many groups as will have them in their allotted time as long as they are not initiated.

[AXJules]

Originally posted by aopinthesky
That is not the same as being initiated into one NPC then being intiated into another. I assume that someone is free to "pledge" as many groups as will have them in their allotted time as long as they are not initiated.

Um yeah I know. But Greek Life is very strict at Mizzou-we follow all policies to the letter. And I don't care if you can get away with it...it just seems wrong to me. She went through the entire new member process. Even if you can do that, who has respect for someone who was a Zeta for a month, a KD for 2 days a year later, and finally became a DG?? (NOT her, just an example.)I'm not saying I have no respect for this girl, but you make it sound like you can pledge whatever house and if you don't like it, you can join another one. We take our sisterhood seriously- to us, that isn't right.

[aopinthesky]

Originally posted by AXJules
Um yeah I know. But Greek Life is very strict at Mizzou-we follow all policies to the letter. And I don't care if you can get away with it...it just seems wrong to me. She went through the entire new member process. Even if you can do that, who has respect for someone who was a Zeta for a month, a KD for 2 days a year later, and finally became a DG?? 9NOT her, just an example.)I'm not saying I have no respect for this girl, but you make it sound like you can pledge whatever house and if you don't like it, you can join another one. We take our sisterhood seriously- to us, that isn't right.

I didn't say it was right and I wasn't defending her. I was saying that it doesn't look like she did anything against the "rules" by deactivating one house and pledging another one year later. It is allowed. I take my sisterhood seriously, also, I wouldn't like it if a new member suddenly decided we weren't for her but XYZ was and she signed on with them. Fact is, as long as the one year bid card rule was followed, she didn't do anything wrong according to the rules we are governed by.

[tunatartare]

Originally posted by breathesgelatin
I have a sorority sister who plans to join as an alum after college to the NPHC group her mother, grandmother, and sister are a part of.

Could someone who has a better knowledge of this than I correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the NPHC not allow for any of its members to be in any other social GLO's? So by being in Pi Phi isn't this girl disallowing for herself to be in the NPHC sorority? I think that's what I read previously somewhere on GC. I could be wrong though seeing as my knowledge of NPHC facts is few and far between.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally posted by DaisyKLP
Could someone who has a better knowledge of this than I correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the NPHC not allow for any of its members to be in any other social GLO's? So by being in Pi Phi isn't this girl disallowing for herself to be in the NPHC sorority? I think that's what I read previously somewhere on GC. I could be wrong though seeing as my knowledge of NPHC facts is few and far between.

Well you know, I am not sure about the NPHC policy specifically. I just know what this woman has conveyed to me about NPHC policy. Actually, this woman has deactivated, so technically it shouldn't be a problem for her. I more think of her as a sister I guess. But she talked about it before she had deactivated. As a disclaimer, her deactivation had nothing to do with her desire to join an NPHC org.

I don't know if NPHCs specifically have this policy, but I *think* that what I have heard expressed in the past by NPHC members was this:

a) that it technically would be allowed to be a member of NPC and NPHC
b) that it isn't done and it would be looked down upon

Please please NPHC folks correct me if I am wrong! I will try to find the old threads!

ETA: I found the thread I was thinking of:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...PHC+membership
This thread shows the NPC and NPHC perspective on this issue.

[33girl]

Originally posted by AOII_LB93
Actually I read that you can indeed join another sorority if you dissaffiliate but you have to wait 5 years or something like that...so basically you wouldn't be a collegiate anyhow. It would be more of an alum initiation thing.

No, no, no! Never means NEVER. I think what you are thinking of is a chapter waiting 5 years to recharter. Either that, or maybe if you are terminated, you can repetition for membership in the same group in 5 years.

[DGMarie]

If you terminate your membership from DG, you can never, EVER join DG again. Ever.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by exlurker


"A woman who is or who has ever been an initiated member of an existing NPC fraternity shall not be eligible for membership in another NPC fraternity."

So a woman who gets initiated, but later disaffiliates, would therefore never be eligible to be a member of another NPC group.
Same thing if the NPC sorority that initiated her terminates her membership -- she is not eligible to join another NPC sorority.

OK...say a girl initiates in an NPC sorority, quits and joins a local. The local is later colonized and becomes NPC (while she's still an undergrad). What happens then?

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

Eeesh, and you have to be a really bad girl to have your membership terminated by the sorority!

Taualumna, that's interesting. The only thing I have to say about that is, it's probably never happened.

The NPCs all have rules about how long you have to be a local (and how many girls, etc.) before you can apply to colonize. Then the colonization application takes forever and a day. Then usually you have to be a colony for X period of time before you're initated.

So I'd imagine unless you were on the 20 year plan it wouldn't happen.

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

Originally posted by wbcm
hi, i have a sister who is going to deactivate from the sorority in order to pursue a house of another. i am not sure how to feel, i am very mixed because i want to support her but i also feel very betrayed. how would handle this situation? how woul dyou feel? what would you say?

Coencidentally, my skeezy-ness alarm is going off.

(1) poster has only one post
(2) poster "wants to support" defecting member
(3) seeming complete unfamilarity with NPC rules

[tunatartare]

In response to TauAlumna's post, I believe that if the local did ever join the NPC, then that woman would have have to either go alum or inactive from one of the groups, and stay active in the other one. I know there was a thread about this on GC but I can't find it now.

To me honestly i dont know how anyone can look at themselves in the mirror and think it is ok to pull of this fascade because you knew the rules of NPC and if it was me trying to hide and double track all my lies and misgivings would make me feel unbelievably guilty in every sense and sooooo disloyal to my chapter and sisters.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Coencidentally, my skeezy-ness alarm is going off.

(1) poster has only one post
(2) poster "wants to support" defecting member
(3) seeming complete unfamilarity with NPC rules

(1) Nowhere did it say that either of the sororities was NPC.
(2) Nowhere did it say that the sister was necessarily initiated yet, only implied.
(3) There are a whole heck of a lot of people there who DON'T know or understand NPC rules, including many members of NPC sororities.
(4) And if my post caused this much drama, I'd stay away too.