GreekChat.com Forums  

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > GLO Specific Forums > Alpha > Alpha Kappa Alpha
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

» GC Stats
Members: 329,789
Threads: 115,673
Posts: 2,205,382
Welcome to our newest member, sydnetivanovz89
» Online Users: 3,439
0 members and 3,439 guests
No Members online
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 03-31-2003, 03:40 PM
sweet26 sweet26 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 27
My parents came in contact with those type of people all the time, but the "elite" was something my parents never found important enough to talk about in our household. It is very sad that once again we have found something to separate us as a people. I agree 100% with lovesupreme08.
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 03-31-2003, 06:34 PM
Conskeeted7 Conskeeted7 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In a state of excellence
Posts: 1,221
The reality about a lot of the Black elite is that they do not know any different from the lives they are living everyday. It is not that they intend to become disliked by 'commoners.' It's just that they are accustomed to behaving and responding in a specific way to each situation and every single person around them behaves the exact same way!!

The people who are truly part of this community do not flaunt their money. Their behavior is dictated by the unspoken rules that have governed the lives of their families forever. This class did not develop as a means to further segregate our race. It simply evolved because of a group of people who have a heritage of wealth and choose to deal only with others on that level.

I was raised in a family deeply rooted in the Black elite of my city. I rejected the whole community early on, at least the social aspect. I could not do anything about the schools I went to, the activities I participated in, or the people I knew. I moved away from my city because I disliked this way of life so much, but not enough children of the Black elite make this choice. It is much more comfortable to live the life of wealth, plenty, and status than have to do things for yourself, based upon merit. They are comfortable with their lives and behavior. I personally saw more for myself and I kinda rebelled to show that I could be successful without using my name or family. So, I moved somewhere where no one knew me or anything about me.

But please believe that the Black elite exists and its roots go deep into the children and families. It is difficult to escape the lifesyle because of the ridicule your family may experience based on your choices. It is one thing to be wealthy, but to be part of the elite class in a city brings additional demands on your emotions, behavior, and life. I have to say that unfortunately many of its members do not try to be snobs, they just don't know any other way of life or behavior.
__________________
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Inc.
Founded 1908 - First and Finest
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 03-31-2003, 11:26 PM
Munchkin03 Munchkin03 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Home.
Posts: 8,261
Re: Re: Re: ttt

Quote:
Originally posted by Steeltrap
Same here. Old money quietly, discreetly handles its business.

The whole Our Kind of People 800 idea seems rather recherche, which means "pretentious," BTW. But I'm getting a good laugh out of this.
This is ridiculous. I imagine the people he "wants" to nominate themselves have nothing to do with him. It's one thing to recognize that a Black elite exists, but an online registry? What's that about?

The man just tries too hard.
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 04-01-2003, 12:32 PM
Steeltrap Steeltrap is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Free and nearly 53 in San Diego and Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 7,331
Send a message via AIM to Steeltrap Send a message via Yahoo to Steeltrap
Re: Re: Re: Re: ttt

Quote:
Originally posted by Munchkin03
This is ridiculous. I imagine the people he "wants" to nominate themselves have nothing to do with him. It's one thing to recognize that a Black elite exists, but an online registry? What's that about?

The man just tries too hard.
Dude tries waaaay tooo hard. I still think he resents not having a chance to experience what he considers a full black boogie (sic) life, and it does come through in the book.

I would be curious, however, to know who may end up on that registry.
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 09-01-2003, 10:31 PM
Steeltrap Steeltrap is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Free and nearly 53 in San Diego and Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 7,331
Send a message via AIM to Steeltrap Send a message via Yahoo to Steeltrap
TTT/elite party

New York Times story featuring the children of the late Commerce Secretary Ron Brown (who was in an NIC fraternity, piece of trivia). Tracey Brown is 2nd from left in photo:

August 31, 2003
GOOD COMPANY
A Sag Harbor Sister-Fest
By LINDA LEE


SAG HARBOR, N.Y.

YOU could say that Morris Reid didn't so much give a party for Tracey L. Brown last weekend as take one — from a client, a liquor conglomerate, eager to back a series of get-togethers. Such is the nature of Hamptons entertaining that the purpose is not just a fun night out but sometimes to promote an agenda — in this case, putting certain brands into the hands of the right crowd. And this was the right crowd. Ms. Brown, a lawyer and author, is the daughter of Ronald H. Brown, commerce secretary under Bill Clinton, who died in 1996 in a plane crash in Croatia.

The party was held in the five-bedroom waterfront house belonging to Alma Brown, Ms. Brown's mother. It was built in 1998 in a neighborhood that is a home to many prominent African-Americans, including the lawyer Johnny Cochran; the lifestyle guru B. Smith ; Earl Graves Jr., the founder of Black Enterprise magazine ; and Susan Taylor, the editor of Essence magazine.

"In the Hamptons, the whites have their place, and this is ours — we're not all P. Diddy," said Lisa Bonner, an entertainment lawyer based in Los Angeles and once Ms. Brown's classmate at Boston College.

At 6:30, Ms. Brown, 35, was in the dining area managing traffic, talking to the servers and doing one seating chart after another. And fretting about her carefully cultivated tan.

"I went yesterday and had a massage," she said. "And they came to me and said, `We're trying something new — would you like a microdermabrasion?' And it felt great, but when I was done they had exfoliated my beautiful tan. So I sat out today and worked on my tan." And she fended off Ms. Bonner's advice about her closets. "You had a skort in there," Ms. Bonner said.

"It is not," Ms. Brown insisted. "It's a short jumpsuit. And my stylish grandmother taught me that everything comes back."

The party was supposed to start at 7:30, but it had been a splendid day for golf, sailing and swimming, and people wandered in late. Dini von Mueffling, a journalist, arrived with a tub of salad and Matt Gohd, an adviser to Dr. Howard Dean of Vermont. "I'm the really rude guest who brought her own dinner," she said. "I'm on the raw food diet."

The servers passed around trays of chicken satay with peanut sauce from Barefoot Contessa in East Hampton to guests on the patio, facing Sag Harbor Bay. Mr. Reid, the host, who is a Washington political strategist, and his wife, Jaci, arrived from their house in East Hampton. This was his fifth Hamptons party this summer. He removed a cigar from his mouth and said, "Most have been at my house, but two have been done at someone else's — they invite their friends, and I fill in with other guests."

He underlined the intentional mix. "It's a diverse crowd," he said, "a real cross section." If a cross section can range from merely successful to wildly successful.

Ms. von Mueffling was first at the buffet table; she loaded a plate with steak and mushroom sauce, garlic mashed potatoes and steamed asparagus. "It's for Matt," she said quickly, referring to her date.

Ms. Brown's brother, Michael A. Brown, who is a Washington lobbyist, arrived from the golf course in time to eat. "I heard the cowbell," he said. Ed Johnson, an investment banker, skidded in at 9:20. "These two weeks are like cocktail party central," he said. "You say yes, and then you've got too many commitments."

With the guests seated at a long table on the terrace, just above the bay, fireworks erupted in celebration of the Sag Harbor Fire Department's 200th birthday — and immediately stopped. "That's all I could afford," Michael Brown joked.

He stood up. "This is a celebration dinner," he said. "First of all, my sister has a job. So give her a big hand for that." Ms. Brown, formerly a district attorney in Los Angeles, will join Mr. Cochran's law firm after Labor Day. "And," he said, "she's almost finished with her second book," a novel about the Hotel Theresa in Harlem.

The fireworks began again, and he sat down, saying, "I see my credit card worked — it's all part of the whole Tracey-fest environment."

Before the peaches poached in Cognac and served with vanilla ice cream, Mr. Brown stood up one more time to talk about his sister. And then for a moment he turned serious.

"One thing we need to remember," he said. "Forty years ago was the March on Washington," when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. gave his "I Have a Dream" speech. People around the table applauded lightly, and continued to celebrate the good life.



Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company | Home | Privacy Policy | Search | Corrections | Help | Back to Top
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 09-29-2005, 03:43 PM
southernelle25 southernelle25 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 266
Re: The Black Elite

I read the book. Many (if not most) of those featured appear to descend from the "nouveau riche" of the very late 1800s/early 1900s, rather than what is traditionally considered "old money". As such, one might conclude that these individuals are only PERPing "elite" status, but ...at least they're having fun doing it?

Last edited by southernelle25; 09-29-2005 at 03:50 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 09-29-2005, 04:01 PM
Refinement1920 Refinement1920 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11
Re: The Black Elite

Quote:
Originally posted by Ideal08


This one lady in the book even said that if [affluent] White people don't associate with middle/lower class/blue collar whites, so why should she associate with those same Black counterparts? T[/B]
Is she serious? How does she think she got where she is? There was once upon a time when all blacks were considered to be the lowest class. And we're still being looked at that way. And I know full well there's someone with more money, more class, more success than her who's she is associating or has assoicated with to get to the next level.
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 09-29-2005, 04:02 PM
prayerfull prayerfull is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Monterey, CA
Posts: 649
Re: TTT/elite party

Quote:
Originally posted by Steeltrap
New York Times story featuring the children of the late Commerce Secretary Ron Brown (who was in an NIC fraternity, piece of trivia). Tracey Brown is 2nd from left in photo:

August 31, 2003
GOOD COMPANY
A Sag Harbor Sister-Fest
By LINDA LEE

Tracey went to Howard when I was there. Good peeps. But she needs to a hairdo and a dress with better coverage.
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 09-29-2005, 04:43 PM
SummerChild SummerChild is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Posts: 1,514
Re: Re: The Black Elite

Southernelle,

There is a bit of a conundrum with your statement re dates for nouveau riche and old money. Um, prior to the late 1800s, most AAs were in a bit of a jam with that whole slavery thing, if you know what I mean. Therefore, how many AAs would fit into the old money category if you had to be rich (and be AFRICAN-AMERICAN) **before** the late **1800s**?



Quote:
Originally posted by southernelle25
I read the book. Many (if not most) of those featured appear to descend from the "nouveau riche" of the very late 1800s/early 1900s, rather than what is traditionally considered "old money". As such, one might conclude that these individuals are only PERPing "elite" status, but ...at least they're having fun doing it?
__________________
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated
Capturing a vision fair ... 100 years and counting
GreekChat.com - The Fraternity & Sorority Greek Chat Network
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 09-29-2005, 05:08 PM
Tickled Pink 2 Tickled Pink 2 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Insomnia
Posts: 979
Angry The Black Elite = Phoney

Quote:
Originally posted by sweet26
It is very sad that once again we have found something to separate us as a people.
Agreed. This is why things like what happened during Katrina can happen - because we do not stick together as a people. It's enough that other races discriminate against us - we don't need to segregate ourselves by class. It's to the point that other minorities are openly discriminating against us.



Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 09-29-2005, 05:11 PM
southernelle25 southernelle25 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 266
Re: Re: Re: The Black Elite

Very few, SummerChild, but these few did acquire freedom and relative wealth long before 1865. These were, at least in my view, the original 'talented tenth'.

I don't defend elitist behavior on the part of any people but if there ever was a group to claim an aristocratic-like status in our communities it would be the descendants of these, not those of the new money crowd.
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 10-01-2005, 02:08 PM
intuned intuned is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: dc
Posts: 23
Quote:
Originally posted by The Original Ape
Along those lines, I'd like to know who the wealthiest African-American is, and their net worth!
oprah
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 10-02-2005, 03:01 PM
SummerChild SummerChild is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Posts: 1,514
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Black Elite

Hello Southernelle25,
I guess (re those that acquired wealth before 1865). Really I don't care about whose old money, new money. I mostly care about who has no money (which is way too many of us) but was just wondering how many of this type that you mentioned were in existence before 1865. We're always finding something to separate over so I guess that this is really no different. We really need to come together b/c as Chris Rock said, most of us are really just *rich* -if that - not wealthy.


Quote:
Originally posted by southernelle25
Very few, SummerChild, but these few did acquire freedom and relative wealth long before 1865. These were, at least in my view, the original 'talented tenth'.

I don't defend elitist behavior on the part of any people but if there ever was a group to claim an aristocratic-like status in our communities it would be the descendants of these, not those of the new money crowd.
__________________
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated
Capturing a vision fair ... 100 years and counting
GreekChat.com - The Fraternity & Sorority Greek Chat Network
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 10-02-2005, 11:32 PM
southernelle25 southernelle25 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 266
^^^ True, SummerChild. That is a point that I agree can be missed in these sorts of discussions.
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 10-21-2005, 02:49 PM
Steeltrap Steeltrap is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Free and nearly 53 in San Diego and Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 7,331
Send a message via AIM to Steeltrap Send a message via Yahoo to Steeltrap
Re: Re: TTT/elite party

Quote:
Originally posted by prayerfull
Tracey went to Howard when I was there. Good peeps. But she needs to a hairdo and a dress with better coverage.
Tracey and her new husband are featured in the November issue of Town and Country on the wedding pages. She looks pretty.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.