rush at UCSB - Page 5

DRau · #61 09-29-2002, 03:58 PM

Leilanimoon -
I have been keeping up on your thread and I am SO SORRY that you did not have a good UCSB rush experience. It has changed a lot since I went through (Fall 98) due to increasing interest and fierce competition between the houses. A lot of rules and regulations are airtight, and this makes our recruitment a little different from other campuses.

Anyhow, I worked for Stephan my senior year, and having been through recruitment three times as an active, I can maybe help clarify this policy UCSB is using regarding snap bids/COB. It may or may not be right (I don't have my green book in front of me to check) but...

You technically did 'withdrawl' on Pref night because you did not attend a party. If you would have attended the parties at Tri-Delt & AEPhi and then gone to IV theater and NOT signed a pref card, you would have completed recruitment & been eligible for a snap bid (Signing the card is the binding agreement to another house). The list that goes to the houses is all the girls who ATTENDED a pref. party but DID NOT sign a pref. card.

'Withdrawl' status at UCSB is dropping out anytime when you COULD have attended a party, even if you knew you weren't going to join a house. So technically, because there are chapter that choose to invite PNM's still in rush after they regreted an invitation, deciding not to attend at any time you still have an invite is withdrawing.

Because you DIDN'T sign a Pref. card, you are not bound to a house for a year, which is why you are eligible for COB throughout the year.

This policy was obviously not made clear to you, which is a problem. However, there is a good chance that quite a few houses will be holding open houses this fall and winter so keep your eyes open.

If you have any questions, please PM me!!!

Delia

GPhiBLtColonel · #62 09-30-2002, 04:23 AM

...what is happening?

sororitygirl2 · #63 09-30-2002, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by LeilaniMoon:
Delta Beta Baby, that's exactly what I'm so confused about! I formally withdrew, because I wasn't feeling it at the two houses who preffed me. And yet he calls me and tells me I'm not eligible for a snap bid. I thought by withdrawing, the other houses would see my name on the list and they could go back and see if they had been interested in offering me a bid.

By withdrawing from recruitment, you did make yourself ineligible for snap bids. However, you are still eligible for COB/open houses, which you would not have been if you signed a card and were matched to one of the houses you preffed. It sounds like you made the right decision to keep looking for a place you felt comfortable!

leilanimoon · #64 10-01-2002, 03:27 AM

I am sticking in there! Gonna read the school newspapers and see when there are open houses for the houses i love. I will definitely keep you all posted and i just want you to know that you guys have been a prime example of why it is I want to go greek. You are always so positive, supportive, and uplifting.

GPhiBLtColonel · #65 10-01-2002, 04:08 PM

...that you may want to read the school papers for open houses for the sororities that you not only LOVE but also for those houses that think you MIGHT be able to love....otherwise I am afraid you might miss out on a sorority that really is a fantastic home for you... just a suggestion....

leilanimoon · #66 10-01-2002, 05:59 PM

Thanks, GPhiB, I'll keep that in mind. The only thing I'm apprehensive about is expressing too broad of an interest in too many places. I am extremely interested in 3 of the houses on campus for 3 unique reasons. Yes, it is possible that I could find a home elsewhere, but as I AM a junior, I have only so much time left here and I think I'd be happiest if I went to the places where I felt a little more at home. This is not to say I'll count other places out entirely, but it helps me to be able to narrow down my options when I already know which places seem like a good fit already. So far, there hasn't been any greek messages in the newspaper, but I'm on the lookout!

FuzzieAlum · #67 10-02-2002, 11:32 AM

I think the difference is that what any given school CALLS snap bidding isn't necessarily what snap bidding really is.

By NPC's definition, snap bidding occurs when a girls prefs and bids but does not match up. The bid matchers will then contact the GLOs to see, "Do you want her?" She then gets her bid in the same way as if she matched. A girl should thus never know if she was a snap bid. The first time we did that, I about had a heart attack - I thought it was some major rule violation! Because what we called snap bidding on my campus wasn't really - after bids were given out the chapters still eliglible to give out bids got lists of girls who dropped out of rush and could go give them bids - some girls would get a couple of bids this way!

I think this happens a lot of places - they call something snap bidding but it isn't really.

sororitygirl2 · #68 10-02-2002, 11:34 AM

The difference could stem from the fact that people sometimes do not understand the snap bidding process and refer to COB bids as snap bids. Snap bidding matches are done by the Office of Greek Life... however, after a certain time on Bid Day (at my school it was 7 p.m.), the formal recruitment period ends and chapters are allowed to begin COB. When my chapter had a few spots to fill, we would call girls who withdrew from recruitment (thus making themselves ineligible for snap bids) on Bid Day at exactly 7 p.m. and offer them a bid. People often called these bids snap bids, when in reality, they were COB bids.

That's the only explanation I can think of for the discrepancies...

aephi alum · #69 10-02-2002, 11:57 AM

FuzzieAlum - hmm, I never knew that. That process wouldn't have worked at my school, though - PNMs could only list on their pref cards the sorority/ies where they preffed, and sororities could only list PNMs who preffed them on their bid lists, so if a PNM preffed at A and B and got a bid from C, it was clearly a snap bid. Since the PNM wouldn't have listed C on her pref card, she was not bound for a year.

leilanimoon, best of luck with COB rush.

AZ-AlphaXi · #70 10-02-2002, 12:17 PM

Ok here's what the NPC "green book" says about snap bidding
under the rush mechanics section:

Snap Bidding
Snap Bidding is an option available to chapters which did not fill formal membership recruitment Quota spaces in bid matching, whether matching by hand or by computer. Snap Bidding is not intended to fill spaces in the chapter Total. Snap Bidding is limited to any woman who participated in the designated formal membership recruitment.

Snap bidding should be under the direction of the college panhellenic membership recruitment committee, working with the chapters who have quota vacancies. A signed membership recruitment acceptance shall be filed with the college panhellenic before a woman who has accepted a snap bid may be pledged. Snap bidding shall begin immediately after bid matching and end with the distribution of bids, at which time Continuous Open Bidding shal begin

end quote

Nothing is said about requiring a PNM to have completed the recruitment process (ie to have attended preference parties or signed a preference card). In fact there isn't anything said at all about how snap bidding is supposed to function. So my guess is that any snap bidding rules are acceptable to NPC as long as the basic tenents of 1) having participated in some portion of recruitment and 2) that mutual selection (ie both PNM and sorority must agree) is perserved.

FuzzieAlum · #71 10-02-2002, 12:20 PM

Thanks for the clarification! Golly, I need a copy of the rules.

AZ-AlphaXi · #72 10-02-2002, 12:50 PM

Snap bid vs. COB bid

my understanding is that snap bids are those bids given and accepted between the time that bid matching is complete and before formal bids are distributed. So, unless the new member says "I got a snap bid" no one other than she and those participating in bid matching would know it was anything other than a snap bid. COB bid are any other bids given and received after formal bids are distributed.

So COB bids can be given the same day as formal bids, they are just given after.

leilanimoon · #73 10-02-2002, 04:56 PM

im kinda confused about it, too, but i guess at my school i had to be physically present at the two houses on pref night and then i could have put withdraw and been eligible for a snap bid at 7 am, instead of what i did which was just to not attend the parties, but put withdraw on my bid card AFTER the parties had concluded. open houses should be starting soon!

DRau · #74 10-02-2002, 07:05 PM

Leilanimoon -

Has anyone advertised anything yet???

leilanimoon · #75 10-02-2002, 11:41 PM

Gamma Phi Beta had their open house tonight. Im sure more will follow soon...or at least I hope it's soon!