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Old 08-14-2002, 12:41 AM
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Oh, no, ANOTHER kidnapping attempt? Can someone fill me in - I'm not finding any news on www.wbrz.com or www.wafb.com The New Orleans affiliates haven't picked up on it either.

I'm going back on Thursday. JAM - what complex is your daughter living in? You can PM me if you want. My mom is very upset about me being in an off-campus apartment for the first time. My apt is the first one off the parking lot, but there are stairs right at the base of the hallway where someone could hide.

My roomates and I are talking about how we're going to try to go home/leave at the same time for classes. Thankfully, we'll all be in the same building all day long.

JAM - thanks for the Holy Water idea! I'm definitely gonna bless my place!

I will continue to pray hard about this. I don't think anyone will rest easily in BR until this animal is captured.
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Old 08-14-2002, 06:12 AM
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Our paper carried the story yesterday, but I'm getting most from The Advocate. She's a little less tan a mile from campus-on the bus route. They are pretty new so the landscaping really doesn't come into play. I know what you mean about hallways and stairways. Even though they are "open" they are still a "vulnerable" point of safey.

I haven't checked out todays news.
EDITED----I Just found the aticle about the MACE!!! The first article is the newest. The second one is about the "smelly" attacker.

Woman chases off stranger with Mace spray

Man was in bushes in Kinamore's neighborhood

By RYAN GOUDELOCKE and CHRISTOPHER BAUGHMAN
Advocate staff writers

Advocate file photo by Jaclyn McCabe
Kathleen Piglia, Pam Kinamore's sister-in-law, holds a sign and a photo of Kinamore during an awareness rally on July 21 at the State Capitol.
Police swarmed into Briarwood Estates Subdivision late Tuesday night after a woman sprayed a chemical at a stranger who approached her across the road from where serial killer victim Pam Kinamore used to live.

"A young lady loading stuff into a truck saw a white male hiding in nearby bushes," sheriff's Lt. Darrell O'Neal said. "When he approached her, she sprayed Mace in his direction." The man turned and fled.

O'Neal said they were about 50 feet apart when she sprayed the self-defense chemical, but she thinks the man was still affected by it.

"She also turned and ran," he said. "We don't know in which direction he ran. We don't have a vehicle description."

A task force of local, state and federal authorities has been hunting for the man who snatched Kinamore from her home July 12 and cut her throat. DNA analysis shows the same man also had stabbed Charlotte Murray Pace, 22, in her Sharlo home May 31 and strangled Gina Wilson Green, 41, in her Stanford Avenue home in September.

The serial killer task force also has been looking for connections between the killings and three attempted kidnappings of women in Ascension, Livingston and East Baton Rouge parishes last week and Monday.

Tuesday night, police had broadcast a description of a white pickup truck seen in Briarwood Estates before the latest incident, but O'Neal said he did not know where the description came from or, if there was such a truck, whether it was involved. He said police are looking for a white man in his early 20s wearing a black shirt, jeans and a tan cap. He possibly has long, scraggly hair.

Deputies taped off the house where the man was sprayed shortly before 10 p.m. Dozens of local, state and federal law enforcement personnel responded. Deputies and other police with dogs were searching vacant land at the Airline Highway end of the subdivision nearest to Briarwood Golf Club. The land is overgrown with long grass and weeds.

"We need more security, more surveillance, more patrolling out here," said Del Rabalais, who lives a few doors away from where the man was sprayed Tuesday.

Another neighbor, Julie Scavona, who was carrying her own can of self-defense spray, told O'Neal she wishes the Sheriff's Office would release more information. She said relatives from New York have just bought a house down the road. They are vacationing back in New York, and "now they don't want to come back," she said. "I don't feel safe in my own home."

The killings and attempted abductions have women throughout the area on edge. Kinamore was the latest of the killer's three known victims.

Several hours after she disappeared from her home, a truck driver saw a 1996 or 1997 white Chevrolet pickup truck exit Interstate 10 at Whiskey Bay. A white man was at the wheel and a nude, white woman was slumped over in the passenger seat. The truck had a black rear bumper with a bad paint job.

Kinamore's body was found July 16 in a secluded area at the Whiskey Bay exit of the interstate.

Residents in her subdivision expressed disbelief Tuesday night that someone would target their neighborhood again.

Julie Comeaux, another neighbor, said she has been trying to organize neighborhood security patrols and security cameras since Kinamore's killing.

"We were just starting to relax again. You were starting to see people walking and jogging and kids playing in the street again," she said.

Then, last week, the series of attempted abductions began.

The first happened early last week in Galvez, when a man tried to carry off an 18-year-old woman in the parking lot at Bon Lieu Shopping Center on La. 42 about 5:45 p.m. When a Federal Express deliveryman saw what was happening and approached, the attacker fled in a black pickup truck.

The next night, a 31-year-old woman was parked at Miller's Grocery on La. 42 in Livingston Parish about 9 p.m. when a man tried to open her passenger door. It was locked, and her repeated honking of her horn chased him off. He also fled in a dark truck, and the victims and witnesses in the incidents gave similar descriptions of the attacker.

Then, a man in a dark green Ford Explorer tried to pick up and carry off a woman from the parking lot of a Highland Road law office Monday morning near Kenilworth Parkway in Baton Rouge. She fought him off and he fled.

The man in all three attempts is described as being white, about 5 feet, 10 inches to 6 feet tall with long, messy hair. In two cases, he was described as being either "smelly" or smelling like he had worked all day.

The task force has not announced the discovery of anything linking the abductions with the serial killer.

Families keep up pressure

In another development Tuesday, the mother of one of the murder victims blasted a man who entered the crime scene just four days after the killing.

Ann Pace, Murray Pace's mother, called Jeremiah Pastor "an idiot" and "ghoulish" for going into the Sharlo Avenue town house.

"I'm appalled," Pace said after attending a daily law-enforcement briefing on the serial killings.

"I believe he's trying to aggrandize himself on the back of my daughter's death," Pace said.

Pastor, a 24-year-old LSU student, has said he spent about 20 minutes in the town house after lifting a partially opened window and crawling in.

Pastor has said he did not disturb anything in Pace's home, but that he saw a thick bloodstain and evidence of the brutal struggle police said Pace put up.

When told of Ann Pace's comments on Tuesday, Pastor said, "I can understand where she's coming from."

But Pastor said he's gotten a lot of calls from people since a story appeared in The Advocate on Friday about his going into the apartment.

Pastor said he hasn't received any direct threats, but that members of his family are frightened.

"This has put a big target sign on my family," he said.

Pastor declined to say if police have questioned him since the article appeared in the newspaper, but has said police questioned him in June about entering Pace's apartment.

Pastor has said police took a DNA sample from him in June, and that he was in Florida when Pace was killed.

Pastor also declined to say if he regrets going into the apartment, which still had crime-scene tape securing the front door when he crawled through the window.

"My main concern is catching this guy and preventing anyone else from getting hurt," said Pastor, a former Navy SEAL. "I've dedicated my life to helping people."

Kinamore's mother, Lynne Marino, attended Tuesday's police briefing with Ann Pace, who lives in Jackson, Miss.

"Lynne and I have shared a terrible sisterhood, but we do draw strength from our association," Pace said.

The families were in Baton Rouge to be interviewed for an episode of the television show "America's Most Wanted," Pace said.

Marino said the show will air sometime next month, but did not have an exact date.

Ed Piglia, Kinamore's brother, announced a rally for the victims at 4 p.m. Aug. 25, at the State Capitol.

Police Chief Pat Englade said investigators have received more than 3,000 tips in their hunt for the serial killer. And while police spokeswoman Cpl. Mary Ann Godawa said there was no new information to report on the serial killings, she did put one rumor to rest.

The Internet has been abuzz with stories that the purses of the three victims were stolen before their deaths.

"We do not have any purse thefts at this point that we think are connected" to the serial killings, Godawa said.

Godawa also said there is no new information on three earlier attempted abductions.

Also Tuesday, a spokesman for the St. Tammany Parish Sheriff's Office said preliminary tests show no connection between the serial killings and a rape in July near Interstate 10 in Slidell.

"We see no connection," sheriff's spokesman James Hartman said. "Preliminary tests do not indicate a connection. But at this time, we're not going to rule out a connection."

The rapist was in a white truck when, posing as a police officer, he pulled over a woman on Interstate 10 near Slidell on July 14, St. Tammany officials have said.

Online.http://www.theadvocate.com/stories/0...ly001.shtmlMan tries to abduct woman

Victim flees 'smelly' assailant

By MELISSA MOORE
mmoore@theadvocate.com
Advocate staff writer
A smelly man driving a dark green Ford Explorer tried to kidnap a woman from the parking lot of the Highland Road law office where she works Monday morning, police said.

It was the third abduction attempt in a week, and investigators are trying to determine if the attempts have any connection to the serial killings of three Baton Rouge women.

The 29-year-old woman attacked Monday arrived for work about 8:30 a.m. at the office of lawyer Chester Boyd at 7388 Highland Road, police spokeswoman Cpl. Mary Ann Godawa said.

After she got out of her vehicle, a man got out of the Explorer, which had a dented driver's door, and "attempted to pick her up physically," Godawa said.

The woman struggled free, and the man fled.

He was described as a white man about 6 feet tall with stringy hair. He wore a hat similar to a welder's cap, a white T-shirt and black boots or shoes, Godawa said.

"He has very bad body odor," she said.

Godawa said investigators are looking into the possibility that the man responsible for the Monday attack also tried -- and failed -- to abduct women in Ascension and Livingston parishes last week.

At the Monday briefing on the hunt for the serial killer, Godawa, Livingston Sheriff Willie Graves and Ascension Sheriff Jeff Wiley said they just don't know yet what connections might exist among the attempted abductions or whether any of them has any connection to the slayings.

The first abduction attempt happened a week ago in Galvez.

An 18-year-old woman was in the parking lot at Bon Lieu Shopping Center on La. 42 about 5:45 p.m. when a man grabbed her and tried to carry her away.

A Federal Express deliveryman saw what was happening and walked toward the man, who let the victim go and drove away in a black pickup truck.

The next night, a 31-year-old woman was at Miller's Grocery on La. 42 in Livingston Parish about 9 p.m. when a man tried to open her passenger door. It was locked. She honked her horn several times while he tried to get into her car, and he eventually fled.

Investigators got partial fingerprints from the woman's car door.

The man in Livingston Parish looked very much like the man described and then sketched by a police artist in the Ascension Parish attack, officials said.

In the Livingston Parish attack, he drove away in a black or dark blue Chevrolet pickup truck with a damaged license plate.

In Ascension Parish, the truck was described as a black mid-1990s model Chevrolet single-cab pickup with a damaged license plate.

The attacker in that crime was described as being white, about 5 feet, 11 inches tall and slim. He had collar-length, shaggy brown or blond hair.

He was dressed like a construction worker in a blue denim welder's cap, a long-sleeved blue shirt, light-colored blue jeans and brown work boots.

Wiley said Monday that the victim described her attacker as having "a working man's odor."

He said the man smelled "as if he had just gotten off work, as if he had been working that day," Wiley said.

Graves said the woman in Livingston Parish had no physical contact with the man who tried to get into her car, so she couldn't say if he smelled bad or not.

The similarities in the two attempted abductions last week led investigators to conclude that the same man was likely responsible for both.

Graves said investigators from Livingston and Ascension are working with Baton Rouge detectives, but they "have not concluded nor discounted" a potential connection to the serial killings.

Baton Rouge officials have linked three killings through the killer's DNA found at the crime scenes: Gina Wilson Green, 41, who was found strangled in her Stanford Avenue home on Sept. 24; Charlotte Murray Pace, 22, who was stabbed to death in her Sharlo Avenue town house on May 31; and Pam Kinamore, 44, who was kidnapped from her Briarwood Place home on July 12 and killed. Kinamore's throat was cut and her body dumped at the Whiskey Bay exit from Interstate 10.

Authorities announced last week that agencies with an interest in the cases have formed a task force to try to catch the killer.

Officials also have said they are examining other unsolved slayings of women in and around Baton Rouge to see if others might have been committed by the same man.

In a related investigation, Sheriff's Lt. Darrell O'Neal said the State Police Crime Lab had completed tests on some blood found on a couch in a storage room belonging to rape suspect Christopher Wilson.

Wilson was arrested June 21, the day after he allegedly kidnapped and sexually assaulted a Baton Rouge woman and tried to drown her in St. James Parish.

He has been called a potential suspect in the killing of LSU graduate student Christine Moore, who disappeared May 23 and whose skeletal remains were found June 16. She died from a blow to the head.

O'Neal announced Monday that the blood on Wilson's couch was not Moore's. It does belong to a female, he said, and further research is being done at the Crime Lab to see if the blood matches victims in any unsolved cases.

O'Neal said the test results do not clear Wilson as a suspect in Moore's death.

O'Neal said Moore's killing has not been linked to the serial killer, but later added that a link has not been ruled out.

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Old 08-14-2002, 12:00 PM
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I have been reading yall's posts and I just want to say that I am VERY disappointed and angry at the Baton Rouge police. I think they are doing a horrible job. They are too worried about issuing speeding tickets for school zones, or like you said, flirting with college girls. I haven't seen any extra cops patroling around town or around my apartment. I think if they get the news out on the raido and on TV ASAP about what color, make/model of the vehicles that this man is driving when he tries to abduct these women, then maybe someone could catch him. Instead, the police keep it a secret and the public finds out hours later. By that time, the suspect is long gone.
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Old 08-14-2002, 12:34 PM
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I just wanted to share this website with everyone. It's the new campus safety website. I think it's got a bunch of good tips not just for LSU coeds but for anyone who wants them. It's much better than the hokey little website the LSU PD put together.

www.lsu.edu/safety.htm

Also my boss's daughter just called her at work and said that there were camera crews and crime scene investigators at the Sharlo Apartments on Brightside. I'm praying that it's not yet another murder.
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Old 08-14-2002, 01:04 PM
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Update: It wasnt another murder. Two men were instatlling security lighting at the Sharlo Apartments and they both were electricuted. They are both still alive, but are in critical condition.
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Old 08-14-2002, 01:14 PM
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HI! Theta'sBigSis, Nice to hear a nw GC voice! I hope you stay with us,it's always nice to have another LSUer arund .

So sad to hear about the 2 men, they were only trying to do their job. Hope they pull through.
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Old 08-14-2002, 01:16 PM
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OK. Thanks goodness!!! Do y'all think that Greek Affairs or LSU will put on any kind of safety seminar? I was thinking about that earlier and it seems really logical. I know we have RAD classes but I think the women on our campus need more info than that. I was honestly thinking about talking to Victor in Greek Affairs or emailing the Chancellor and suggesting it. It's the least they can do for us as women.
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Old 08-14-2002, 01:44 PM
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Tigergirl, the LSU Wellness Center is supposed to be having some kind of self defense seminar. I dont know what day or time, but you can call them at 578-5718. They are located on the bottom floor in the Student Health Center.

Also, I think its so sad that we are kind of relieved that two men were electricuted and that it wasnt another murder. It just shows how horrible our world is.
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Old 08-14-2002, 01:54 PM
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I know what you mean Theta'sBigSis. I didn't mean to come off as though I was excited that it wasn't a murder. I feel horribly for those two men and their families. It's just relieving to hear that it's not another murder. It's even more sad that they were there to install security lighting and this happened to them.
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Old 08-14-2002, 01:56 PM
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Tigergirl, the LSU Wellness Center is supposed to be having some kind of self defense seminar. I dont know what day or time, but you can call them at 578-5718. They are located on the bottom floor in the Student Health Center.

I would love to see each chapter promote attendance. Fot that matter, I wish every girl on campus would go. As I read about the last attempt, I couldn't help but wonder if my daughter carries her pepper spray wherever she goes, and if she does, would she be as "quick on the draw". This guy is getting bolder and bolder.
Is there just one or are there two different men? Are nut cases going to come out ofthe woodwork?

Also, I think its so sad that we are kind of relieved that two men were electricuted and that it wasnt another murder. It just shows how horrible our world is.
Very sad indeed, but true...
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Old 08-14-2002, 02:18 PM
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Justamom--

I honestly think it's two different men. I think the serial killer is much smarter than we give him credit for. I don't think he would be so blatant in his abduction attempts. I think he's much much more covert in his ways. I was talking to my boss today about how I think he works. He somehow got three attractive women to trust him enough to obviously let him into their homes. Not only that but he killed Charlotte Murray Pace and Gina Wilson Green during broad daylight. That to me is very bold and very calculated. He had to have watched them enough to know that they would be home at certain times during the day. I honestly don't believe the guy trying to abduct these women has anything to do with the serial killer...he's probably just a copycat out for attention.
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Old 08-14-2002, 02:21 PM
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I dont know if its one guy or if it may be copy-cat abductions. I work here at LSU and I don't feel safe anytime of the day or night. I really haven't seen campus police patrolling here. I dread having to walk to my car at the end of the day to leave work. All I know is that if anyone comes near me, I am spraying them with mase. I look at it this way: I can always say I'm sorry if they aren't the killer.
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Old 08-14-2002, 06:00 PM
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Question

Why does not the Cop Shop down there put decoys out there?

Hell I have been in Law Enforcement!

Number 1 ,I would carry a weapon and shoot the SOB';s!

It is Bull Shit that these delitantes dont do this!

Of courase we are seeing the same thing here in Ks also! These are sick Mothers that do this and need to be taken off our out!

I did undercover stuff that I did not agree with but did it!

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Old 08-14-2002, 10:03 PM
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Tom, I think you have a good idea. Decoys may be exactly what we need. You know it's pretty sad to think it took all these years and 37 unsolved murders before anyone caught on. What bothers me is Foster telling the women to carry a gun or a baseball bat. I'd rather hear him tell the police to get the guy or get a new job. I was waiting for you to chime in. I was hoping you would feel the same way everyone posting does. While I have nothing but the highest regard for those that REALLY protect and serve, I am furious at the situations that our LSU students have posted. Somebody really dropped the ball. I feel so helpless here. I am so sorry, no ANGRY, the women of Baton Rouge (and all over it seems) are denied the right to live their life with SOME semblance of safety.
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Old 08-15-2002, 12:39 AM
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Well, in less than 12 hrs, I'll be back in BR. And I'm next to paralyzed with fear. Thankfully, my two roomates are also scared crapless and are into "safety in numbers."

I want to have faith in the BR police dpt, but after the way I was treated when I got a ticket...well, I'm not so confident in their critical thinking skills.

I've got everything packed, including Holy Water and Pepper Spray. One of my roomates is bringing TWO baseball bats. I want to bring a screwdriver to keep in my purse. My mom was teasing me that I'll end up messing up the lining in my KS. A small price to pay to stab the living crap out of anyone who comes NEAR me.
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