Negative Nicknames

[AngelPhiSig]

Ill probobly be bi#ched at for this but can we PUH-LEASE lock this thread? It is in no way a good rep for us with people bickering back and forth over something pointless. Its been done, as someone said, search!

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ight=Nicknames

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ight=Nicknames

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ight=Nicknames

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ight=Nicknames

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ight=Nicknames

All those links are probably the main reason why people are getting tired of seeing stuff like this. Counting this thread we have a total of 6 negative nicknames threads in this forum alone. Its just gets old after awhile. besides the fact as I said earlier, not everyone thinks highly of them or thinks they're funny.

[KDHoney]

Wow...I just read the whole thread and am amazed at how quickly it degenerated into exactly what people like DZRose was trying to prevent (ie: senseless name-calling). Whether you find the nicknames funny or not, there are those who are truly offended by them and purposely continuing the topic when you know it will only cause more problems isn't the way to go. I could see beating this to death if the topic was something truly important, but it's nicknames...just nicknames. Whether you find them amusing or appalling, they are not the end all and be all of our Greek existence. So, let's retract our claws and move onto something more important. We make a big deal about being good representatives of the Greek system...if someone who was not Greek, or even just not a member of GreekChat, read this thread, what would they think of us? Just something to think about...

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by SigKapSundevil
DZrose, I really think you need to relax. You are fighting a losing battle. If you don't think it's funny then why don't you stop reading these posts? Can't you do something better with your time? We don't have any DZs at our school (thank god because if they were all as annoying as you I don't think I could take it!)
but if we did I would tell you all the nicknames just to get you more pissed off.

I had a lovely little diatribe all typed out, but then I thought better of it. As much as I'd love to get personal right back, it would be in the best interests of my organization if I took the higher ground. Not hard to do, luckily.

Soooo, I'm not going to resort to personal attacks. Delta Zeta wouldn't like it, plus, I've found that personal attacks are usually made by people who don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to arguing their side of a controversy. (It's called a diversion tactic.)

In contrast, I and some other GCers actually have some valid points in this nickname issue -- points that have yet to be effectively countered by anyone who is of the opinion that nicknames are just good fun. We're not trying to be "bitchy parents" as someone else so nicely put it... We're simply expressing differing viewpoints and suggesting that they be considered seriously before being refuted. So I'm going to state those viewpoints again in the hopes that someone can answer them intellectually, instead of personally.

How does spreading negative nicknames about GLOs (yours or anyone else's) help to create Greek unity and/or improve the Greek image to the public?

Can any one of you tell me HONESTLY that if you never heard another negative nickname for the rest of your lives that you would actually miss them? Would you yearn for them, thinking back and saying to yourself, "Gee I haven't heard anyone call DZ 'easy' in a while. Gosh, I really miss that. Those were the good old days."

Anyone, anyone, anyone?

BTW, UMgirl, thanks for posting the other threads... The third valid point is that this issue has come up A LOT in the past. So, the search feature is a great thing to utilize.

[LeslieAGD]

Originally posted by dzrose93
So, the search feature is a great thing to utilize.

Do you think it'd be possible to put up a flashing neon pop up for new users to use SEARCH? I think that'd be a good investment.

[Kevin]

Do you think it'd be possible to put up a flashing neon pop up for new users to use SEARCH? I think that'd be a good investment.

I know you said that jokingly. But I'd say we should be open to whatever a 'new' user wants to do. The number of posts a person has does not mean they own more of GC than someone else.

Each one of these threads was probably slightly different because with the exception of a few people each thread carried a different set of viewpoints and therefore even though the name and topic were the same they were each individually different.

I don't wish this to be thought of as an attack. I'm merely suggesting that telling someone it was already discussed 2 months ago isn't a very valid reason for having them not discuss a certain topic.

Each person has their own unique views and experiences.

LHT
Kevin

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by LeslieAGD


Do you think it'd be possible to put up a flashing neon pop up for new users to use SEARCH? I think that'd be a good investment.

Well, I don't think it is possible to have a flashing neon sign , however the AKA's have permenent threads on top of their forum for newbies, titled "Important:SEARCH,SEARCH,SEARCH!" and "Announcement:Pearls of wisdom". Pearls Of Wisdom is a thread about going over the unwritten rules and taboos of the forum. If a newbie (or a dumb oldie) "breaks" those "rules", their post or thread will be deleted or locked. Therefore there will be no excuse for the "ignorant newbies" and "bitching" oldies.

Perhaps the mods from other forums can "copy" them, if the AKA's don't mind. Maybe...just maybe this will slow down some of the "drama". It worked for them.

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by Dionysus


Well, I don't think it is possible to have a flashing neon sign , however the AKA's have permenent threads on top of their forum for newbies, titled "Important:SEARCH,SEARCH,SEARCH!" and "Announcement:Pearls of wisdom". Pearls Of Wisdom is a thread about going over the unwritten rules and taboos of the forum. If a newbie (or a dumb oldie) "breaks" those "rules", their post or thread will be deleted or locked. Therefore there will be no excuse for the "ignorant newbies" and "bitching" oldies.

Perhaps the mods from other forums can "copy" them, if the AKA's don't mind. Maybe...just maybe this will slow down some of the "drama". It worked for them.

Delta Sigma Theta has announcements as well but from time to time we all get someone who will post, intentionally or not, a repetitive thread or offensive thread.

Dionysus, I am over here CTFU @ you because you are like the Internet Guidance Counselor.

[XOcrlstln]

Ok now I have to respond (I have been watching this thread from the beginning). Being a relatively new member of GC, I can appreciate how easy it is to violate the unwritten rules of posting. However, since they are "unwritten" it is pretty hard for people to know them huh?

As for repeating topics, I personally don't see anything wrong with it. Just as a new member may not have read past threads, there are new members that didn't have the opportunity to participate in the past threads as well. So continuing these things can bring lots of new perspective.

Would it be better to revive an old thread or start a new one if a person wanted to discuss a certain "old" topic? Cause either way, they would be at the top of the list of recent posts!!!!!

Finally, if you don't like it, don't read it. Just like people have freedom of posting ANYTHING they want, readers have the freedom to not read threads they don't agree with.

By continuing to talk about the validity and wiseness of this thread, you just keep it at the top of the list. Don't like it, ignore it! Maybe it'll go away.

~C

btw- I think these nicks are hilarious!

[Tom Earp]

XOchristi, Welcome in from the hinterland!

Your post is a welcome shot for me and a few of the other GCers that are not getting to stiff necked!

It many times takes a newbie to point the things that some of the oldies miss!

I do not mind a lot of stuff that goes on as some maybe of ignorance, but maybe not!

As a Moderator, I have only booted one person off after confirming with other Mods!

I take not my position lightyly!

This is a site that one should be able to ask questions and expect some form of answer with a forwardness in kind words!

As you can see, I have many posts and have been on a long time! But not as long as some but still feel as deeply about what is going on on this site as all of us do!

We all have our moments in teh SUN and get cranky or do as I do is stir something up to get a life in life!

99.99% pure are great people on this site so hang for a while with us and you can find out anything that is worth happening!

I for one have found many of the finest people that I know right here on GC site

[SigKapSundevil]

Right on Chi-o chic!! I agree totally, and I will try to be more civil as well! If you are so upset STOP READING!!!! All you people lecturing others on how to express their opinion have way too much time on your hands. Aggie AXO, get a life. Thanks for your sarcastic comment about what a good rep. i am for the sorority. I'm just trying to keep it real. I feel that anyone can say whatever they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone, and as far as I can tell on this board no specific school names are used and no particular chapter is under attack. It's just stupid nicknames and it's all in good fun.

[kristiAZD]

XOcrlstln makes such an excellent point. When I was a new member on these boards, I didn't know anything. I was actually very scared to post anything because I was afraid people would lash out at me. Thank god no one did, because I would have left and never come back. So what if someone has only posted a few times? I don't post very often and have been a member for what I consider to be awhile. I don't post unless I really have a desire to, but I am reading threads all the time. I wasn't going to post on this thread until I read XOcrlstln's post and realized how right she is. Now that I have been around, I know what people get mad about certain things and I try to stay away from those threads. If they yell at me and they are a respected member I usually don't get mad because I expected them to have that reaction; I realize where they are coming from. I try and let comments roll off my back. However at the beginning, when I really didn't have a gist for people's personalities on here, I would have been scared off. We need to work on our social skills a little. We need to try and not scare away new members because they probably don't know the system on here, and we could be turning away someone with great potential and someone we really like talking to. In the future, lets remember this so we aren't losing potentially good members. Think of it like you were in a rush party. If someone talked to you that way the minute you stepped in the door, would you want to stick around? Hell no. You'd look elsewhere.

And by saying all this I am not saying there are not people out there looking to proke things, there are, but we should not treat everyone as if that is the case.

Just my 2 cents on this matter.

[KappaStargirl]

Search tips for new users or not...

Unwritten rules for posting...

Being "yelled at" or not...

...I haven't said anything before this, but to me all that's irrelevant. I think more than anything else people's postings really show their degree of professionalism and support for the Greek community. I was VERY upset when I read the posts by SigKapSundevil and lenoxxx...it really says something about how you treat your fellow Greeks. Because of what you have said, I will never be able to respect either of your opinions again. It's one thing to disagree, it's quite another to attack someone or their organization personally. I have lost some respect for Sigma Kappa, which I had gained by reading the posts of others on GC. Your actions reflect not just on you but on your group, and you have lost your one chance to make a good first impression. As Tom Earp says, 99.99 percent of the people on GC are great, we agree to disagree and don't resort to personal attacks. Of course there's going to be a difference in opinion, we are human after all, but what you did was inexcusable and in my eyes you will never recover from it.

I suppose now you may tell me that you're glad there isn't a chapter of Kappa Kappa Gamma at your school, because you'd feel the need to run screaming if they were all as annoying as I am. So be it. I know who is REALLY brought down by a statement like that.

As far as negative nicknames go...I laugh for half a second, then shrug it off. I feel it's important to laugh at yourself but I won't post what I hear on GC, that's laughing at others which I don't feel is appropriate.

Killarney Rose and dzrose93 are actually two of my favorite GCers. I went to a school without a DZ chapter, and had barely heard of it before GC. They represent their organization well and argue intelligently without screaming and attacking other posters. Theirs is an example to be followed. Represent your orgs well. Think before you post. I've made the mistake of not doing so occasionally, and I am sorry for it and will not do it again. I did not find your remarks "sassy," I found them hurtful and was appalled that you resorted to swearing at a moderator. Make use of your college education and argue well. Show that you're someone of whom your GLO should be proud.

[ZTAngel]

Just as a heads-up for you all out there:

Before you make a very negative or degrading post, you might want to take a look at your GC username. If your organization's name is your username, you are not only representing yourself but your organization as well. Please keep that in mind. Also, many of us have included in our profile's what chapters we are from. So, not only are you representing yourself and your organization but your chapter as well.
Here's an anecdote of truth:
There have been many posters on here who did not represent their organization well. In fact, they made it their mission to make mean or degrading posts. If you think that posts can not be traced back to you individually, you are wrong. Your computer shoots out a number every time you post that can be traced back to your location and computer. People on this board have gotten HUGE amounts of trouble with their Nationals and with their schools for some of the things they may have said.
Just as a warning, the Internet is not as anonymous as you may have hoped.

[ZTAMichelle]

Originally posted by ZTAngel
Just as a heads-up for you all out there:
Just as a warning, the Internet is not as anonymous as you may have hoped.

well said!

the internet is as private as a postcard sometimes.