These Other Fake Greeks - Page 5

theo14 · #61 05-09-2002, 11:32 AM

Hey Schizo

Hit me up at CoolTheo14@yahoo.com

Shelacious · #62 05-09-2002, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by theo14
or maybe people are not LISTENING or in this case READING what ive wrote...

nevertheless, ive been in a couple of NPHC focus groups and such about this same topic, GREEK UNITY and it always comes down to the same basic thing

Maybe I am indeed missing the point here. What is it you are trying to say? There is no true Greek Unity! People are inherently separatist by nature, in any social structure. But one of our goals should be as humans, while understanding that we inherently try to find divisions, is to still seek out and encourage the bonds of commonality that we all share.

The same goes for Greek Unity. Honestly, I really don't know isht about the histories of aka, dst or sgrho. I do however, know the history of Zeta Phi Beta, and I am very, very proud of it. Therefore, I have no reason to feel "unified" on a Greek level with any other sorority just by virtue of the fact we are all a part of the NPHC. The Greek unity I have stems from the fact that my best friend is an AKA, that the Deltas gave me a scholarship when I graduated from high school, that the SGRhos I have met have been MAD COOL to me and my Sorors. In other words, my unity stems from a personal relationship that I have with members of each of those organizations, which is how it's supposed to be. Some people are taught, or believe, that the only personal relationships they need to develop in the Greek world are with those of thier own organization, or with only the pre-1914 NPHC members, or only with NPHC members. Can I prevent them from doing that? Nope--they are in my prayers and I wish them the best, cause they'll need it--while I'm getting my network on and leveraging my many relationships, they'll just be blocking their blessings in their own little worlds. Trust me when I say that the only ones talking about "greek unity" are those who actually live it for the most part--hence why you don't see a lot of talk about on GChat or anywhere else.

-shel

theo14 · #63 05-09-2002, 02:08 PM

Actually you hit my point right on the dot...

Ive said time and time again (if you reread my posts you would know), I have greek friends, my friend is a que and i have a few alpha buddies, but my problem is not with my friends or with other greeks IN GENERAL.
MY problem is ive met too many people that are in your face one minute talking about "lets unite" "lets be friends" but these same people are the same ones who are trash talking and talking shyt about my frat, FAKENESS, thats my problem....

I men ive met people who are one way during the NPHC meeting, and another way at the party or at the get togehter at your guys house etc. i was sick of it during undergrad and now that im in grad school, i still see the same petty shyt........even at the graduate level......

Yes, i believe there is no greek unity, that is nothing new, and im not arguing that or am even concerned with that, the issue that i brought up is, if youre going to be shady, BE REAL ABOUT IT.......

Im beating a dead horse, im moving on to a new topic

Her Dopenezzz · #64 05-19-2002, 11:55 PM

"if youre going to be shady, BE REAL ABOUT IT....... "

Hmmm...Nah, I'm not even going to say it.

starang21 · #65 05-29-2002, 10:06 PM

the reason no one talks about us is becuase most people haven't heard about it (Iota Phi Theta). Shit, one of my friends in my grad program (a Sigma man) told me i'm the first real live Iota he's ever seen....shoot, like we're protected species or something. that shyt actually hurt my feelings, jk. i've never heard of people attacking the sigma/zeta relationship, if they have a relationship, cool....i have relationships with all kinds of people, no ones attacking mine. and actually, i can understand why the sigmas have beef with everyone, most people stole their shit from the PBS. i don't have a problem with them cats, seem pretty cool to me.

Dionysus · #66 05-29-2002, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
the reason no one talks about us is becuase most people haven't heard about it (Iota Phi Theta). Shit, one of my friends in my grad program (a Sigma man) told me i'm the first real live Iota he's ever seen....shoot, like we're protected species or something. that shyt actually hurt my feelings, jk. i've never heard of people attacking the sigma/zeta relationship, if they have a relationship, cool....i have relationships with all kinds of people, no ones attacking mine. and actually, i can understand why the sigmas have beef with everyone, most people stole their shit from the PBS. i don't have a problem with them cats, seem pretty cool to me.

IPT what's that?

SigmaMan7 · #67 05-30-2002, 10:02 PM

I just wanted to say that Greek Unity as a whole does not exist yet, it only exists between certain people in different organizations. Yet you can say that Greek Unity on an individual level will exist forever as long as people will be friends before they become Greek!!!

theo14 · #68 06-05-2002, 10:08 AM

its amazing how some of the people who use these forums can be so naive and sheltered

its ridiculous,
when youve seen the things ive seen, been to the places ive been, ive met a lot of people from coast to coast, campus to campus....

-ive seen AKAs fighting Deltas
-AKAs fighting each other as a matter of fact
-Deltas intentionally walk on zetas lots
-SGRhos who sleep with AKA boyfriends

-Deltas stealing Zeta men, and have the nerve to come to the zeta house to try to fight, yelling and acting ghetto in the front yard, until the cops were called, mind you, with letters showing and all

-I was involved in 2 fights in college, and both of them, were because of ques who decided they wanted to disrespect us by intentionally walking through a sigma line

-Kappas who throw canes during an ALPHA show on stage, starting a massive brawl

-Ques who dont like the fact, alphas have on gold boots, so decide to start a fight, with 3 people ultimately arrested...

THESE ARE JUST A FEW.....
SO Stop with the asanine comments and lets really talk.....about greek issues

AKA2D '91 · #69 06-05-2002, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by theo14
its amazing how some of the people who use these forums can be so naive and sheltered

its ridiculous,
when youve seen the things ive seen, been to the places ive been, ive met a lot of people from coast to coast, campus to campus....

-ive seen AKAs fighting Deltas
-AKAs fighting each other as a matter of fact
-Deltas intentionally walk on zetas lots
-SGRhos who sleep with AKA boyfriends

-Deltas stealing Zeta men, and have the nerve to come to the zeta house to try to fight, yelling and acting ghetto in the front yard, until the cops were called, mind you, with letters showing and all

-I was involved in 2 fights in college, and both of them, were because of ques who decided they wanted to disrespect us by intentionally walking through a sigma line

-Kappas who throw canes during an ALPHA show on stage, starting a massive brawl

-Ques who dont like the fact, alphas have on gold boots, so decide to start a fight, with 3 people ultimately arrested...

THESE ARE JUST A FEW.....

SO Stop with the asanine comments and lets really talk.....about greek issues

Those are PEOPLE issues NOT GREEK issues...

Agdi · #70 06-05-2002, 09:26 PM

I guess people should pledge either Zeta or Sigma because ALL of the OTHER greeks don't know how to act.

Theo14 you are so right when you state:
"its amazing how some of the people who use these forums can be so naive and sheltered"

SweetestDiva · #71 06-06-2002, 05:21 PM

Funny how none of the incidents you cite involve Zetas or Sigmas in a negative light. Now, don't get me wrong. I got love for all, but I am hard-pressed to believe that 7 out of 9 organizations contribute to disharmony among Greeks while ZPBS is just chillin on the sidelines ready to bring on the unity. Let's be real about the situation.

I have to agree with Soror AKA2D'91 - people will be people, regardless. If a girl would have slept with somebody else's boyfriend before, slapping three letters on her chest will hardly change her. If you've been quick to fight all your life, will that change once you join an organization? Doubt it.

You claim you have been grossly misinterpreted in the past, so let me apologize in advance if I've taken anything you said out of context. But I'm curious to know what's really behind this topic. Are you one of those people that just contends that "greek unity" will not/does not/should not exist, or is "greek unity" something you are striving for?

theo14 · #72 06-07-2002, 11:06 AM

1.
zeta and sigmas are not perfect, dont get me wrong, im sure we have our negative ways, personally, i just havent ran into any, on my campus, sigma were the biggest, (besides delta), brightest and the ideal fraternity on campus, black or white, and this is the honest truth, whether one believes it or not....
we had the highest GPA, won 7 of the last 9 step shows, and adopted 3 parks and 2 highway strips, our sleep out event raised the most money of any single (not combined, like the white greek philanthopies) service event of any fraternity of sorority....
SO i dont need to sit here and prove anything, or actions speak louder than any message board words

2. My point is....
There is no greek unity, and im sick of people getting on these boards, saying "unity this and unity that" and these are the same people who are talking shyt the next minute....
My point....
lets stop wasting time trying crying about greek unity, we need to be worrying about empowering our communities...worry about stopping the killing of 14 year old teens in major cities, or kids becoming preganat at age 11...shyt like that.....

I could care less if an alpha, kappa or que likes me....
Now i hav friends who are greek and they were my friends before greekdom and will be after greekdom, will probably be in my wedding etc, but we are not wasting our time trying to unify sigma and kappa, or alpha and que, know damn well we will never be unified, we are out there doing things in our respective grad chapters and such.....
in my investment club, we rarely bring up greekdom, because being greek will not make you money, we discuss issues as men, black men first and foremost......

theo14 · #73 06-07-2002, 11:10 AM

My girl is a Delta and we have this conversation all the time....
but what it comes down to...
is...
this is my opinion, and that is her opinion, and its all about respecting each others opinion...

schizo1914 · #74 06-07-2002, 01:18 PM

I hit you up a while back

you wanted to holla at me

schizo1914@hotmail.com

starang21 · #75 06-07-2002, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by theo14

lets stop wasting time trying crying about greek unity, we need to be worrying about empowering our communities...worry about stopping the killing of 14 year old teens in major cities, or kids becoming preganat at age 11...shyt like that.....

i'd venture to say those things are a little more important than greek unity.