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Old 09-19-2014, 11:29 AM
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What I find interesting about the situation is that no pictures of the offensive outfits have popped up and the vagueness of how many women were actually in offensive costume.

The 93% of the chapter participated in Taco Tuesday is useless info. Taco Tuesday is not offensive. It's a completely common thing in California.

The article claims nobody was told to dress in costume but some number of women did, it's implied to be a small number. Of that small number, some were offensive.

So if the chapter is around 60ish women (guesstimate based on photos I found online) then how many were in costume and how many were offensive?

If it's such a small number, the punishment most definitely does not fit the crime. A lecture, a seminar, and extra philanthropy hours for the offending women makes sense to me. And all of that still seems stiff to me.
If you stand around saying nothing when your sorority sisters show up in offensive costumes, you are part of the problem.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:37 AM
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If you stand around saying nothing when your sorority sisters show up in offensive costumes, you are part of the problem.
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:03 PM
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If you stand around saying nothing when your sorority sisters show up in offensive costumes, you are part of the problem.
I think someone did say something, since it was an internal recruitment prep week event.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:51 AM
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DBB - Which also makes me wonder who brought this to anyone's attention? The way everything has avoided that makes me wonder if it was a sister. In which case I wonder why she didn't say anything to the chapter and handle it in house.

Furthermore, IMO, not saying anything does not make you part of the problem. It makes you a human living in society where we're trained from a young age to avoid confrontation and not to embarrass people.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:57 AM
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Furthermore, IMO, not saying anything does not make you part of the problem. It makes you a human living in society where we're trained from a young age to avoid confrontation and not to embarrass people.
Unless those people are overly-sensitive minorities?
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:07 PM
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Unless those people are overly-sensitive minorities?
Basically.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:10 PM
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Furthermore, IMO, not saying anything does not make you part of the problem. It makes you a human living in society where we're trained from a young age to avoid confrontation and not to embarrass people.
Being trained from a young age to conform to societal norms about avoiding confrontation and not embarrassing people and being part of the problem are not mutually exclusive.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:15 PM
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I think SoCalGirl is saying the offending sisters should have been told before anyone showed up that their outfits were offensive - a Taco Tuesday Dress Check, if you will.

What I don't get is how everyone has to dress up for everything. We went to free taco night every Thursday at the Days Inn and it never occurred to any of us to put on a serape, nor did the venue do any decorating. Isn't free or cheap food enough? Why must everything be a theme party? Aren't food, fun and friends sufficient? Is this what people do when they have too much money and time on their hands?
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:10 PM
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Didn't Kevin say the "consequence" should be the diversity training? Not only is that not a true "consequence" but aren't people tired of racial and ethnic diversity and understanding being used as a "consequence"?

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Old 09-19-2014, 04:57 PM
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Didn't Kevin say the "consequence" should be the diversity training? Not only is that a true "consequence" but aren't people tired of racial and ethnic diversity and understanding being used as a "consequence"?
Could be.

I'm going to even walk back on that initial position I took there. I don't think the school should be able to punish these groups in any way, shape or form under the 1st Amendment.
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Old 09-19-2014, 05:00 PM
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