Why Rejected from a Sorority?

[Shellfish]

It doesn't even make sense. At schools where recs are basically a must, surely almost all PNMs will have them, but then the chapters that have to cut a lot because of high return rates are going to be cutting people with refs.

[DrPhil]

I think Libertylove is the same as the other trolls. The summertroll sent me a PM the other day.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I think Libertylove is the same as the other trolls. The summertroll sent me a PM the other day.

Yes, and one would think that with so many different personalities that each persona could have different issues to bring up.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

summertroll

Summertrooooooll
Tricking GCers is eaaaaaaasy

[summer_gphib]

Oh Lord help us... I was shocked to see her thread deleted when I got up this morning. LOL

[Bamarox]

You don't get it, I am not speaking about the selection process. I am directing my comments to the recommendations. Why would my friends in other NPC groups volunteer references for their groups if the chapters did not want or use them? Why would our local Panhellenic group meet during late spring or early summer to gather resumes and write recommendations, if the chapters did not want them. This is not unique to my home town. Local Panhellenics do this in other cities and other states. I may not be a Greekchat Moderator, but I do have some insight into how the system works.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Bamarox

You don't get it, I am not speaking about the selection process. I am directing my comments to the recommendations. Why would my friends in other NPC groups volunteer references for their groups if the chapters did not want or use them? Why would our local Panhellenic group meet during late spring or early summer to gather resumes and write recommendations, if the chapters did not want them. This is not unique to my home town. Local Panhellenics do this in other cities and other states. I may not be a Greekchat Moderator, but I do have some insight into how the system works.

/swerve

Your posts read as "If you have a rec, you're guaranteed to be invited back to the second round. If you get recs for next year, you'll make it past the first round." I think what others are saying is that this is not necessarily the case, particularly at schools where everyone has recs.

/swerve

[33girl]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

/swerve

Your posts read as "If you have a rec, you're guaranteed to be invited back to the second round. If you get recs for next year, you'll make it past the first round." I think what others are saying is that this is not necessarily the case, particularly at schools where everyone has recs.

/swerve

That is true, and it's also true at schools where almost no one has recs, as NUKaydee confirmed. For some schools, the "second round" is preference. Saying a sorority makes all its chapters keep a girl with a rec until the second round would pretty much be forcing chapters at those schools to give a girl with a rec a bid.

At some schools PNMs are automatically released if they don't have recs, true, but at some schools, that would never work, as pretty much no one has recs and they would have to release every single girl going through rush.

[33girl]

OMG. I'll say it again.

DON'T SPEAK FOR GROUPS OTHER THAN YOUR OWN. UNLESS YOU ARE POSSESSED OF 26 SPLIT PERSONALITIES, THAT MEANS ONLY ONE.

DON'T MAKE SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS THAT CAN'T POSSIBLY APPLY TO EVERY COLLEGE OR ALUMNAE PANHELLENIC IN THE US AND CANADA.

WHAT NPC GROUPS ACTUALLY DO WITH RECOMMENDATIONS IS PART OF THE MEMBER SELECTION PROCESS. NOT ALL NPC GROUPS USE THEM. NOT ALL GROUPS USE THEM IN THE SAME WAY. MEMBERSHIP SELECTION IS PRIVATE.

I don't know exactly why your friends would volunteer to do anything with references or resumes or recommendations, and frankly, I don't give a shit. Why should I? Unless one of them is a member of my group, it has nothing to do with my group or how it selects its members.

[Bamarox]

As a moderator I would expect you to have a better vocabulary. Do you always resort to profanity when you are frustrated? I haven't made a sweeping generalization, but perhaps you would sleep better if I said, "it has been my experience."
So, I will say, that it has been my experience, that on the campus I advise, that PNMs without references do not fare as well as girls with references.
AND it has been my experience that the above information is given to all of the PNM's in the recruitment handbook (written by Panhellenic, so I am going out on a limb here in saying that it applies to all 17 NPC groups).
SO while my experience is limited and worthless, If I had a daughter, niece, friend or acquaintance contemplating recruitment on any campus, I would make sure they had letters of introduction or recommendations to all NPC groups on their campus.
SO GO AHEAD BLAST AWAY, thrilled I can be your punching bag this evening.