Kaplan University - Page 5

DrPhil · #1 07-18-2012, 06:39 PM

One of the newest monstrosities is Virginia College. This for-profit waste of money and waste of "accreditation" was founded by Atlantis Group, Inc. in 1983 and its first branch campus was in Alabama. It is opening more campuses across the country. WOMP WOMP.

Munchkin03 · #2 07-18-2012, 07:03 PM

My soon-to-be former boss received his MBA from the University of Phoenix a few years ago (just before I started working there). Sometimes in conversation, he'll say, "oh, when I was in B-school," and I'm all, "Wha? You mean when you were sitting at your desk?"

Do y'all know how hard that was for me? It was one indicator that the culture of that company and I are a bad match.

And, no. That UOPX education did NOT teach him anything about being a good manager. For far less, he could have gone to an Executive MBA program at one of the local colleges and actually had a real MBA experience...and, isn't half of the MBA experience meeting and networking?

DrPhil · #3 07-18-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

My soon-to-be former boss received his MBA from the University of Phoenix a few years ago (just before I started working there). Sometimes in conversation, he'll say, "oh, when I was in B-school," and I'm all, "Wha? You mean when you were sitting at your desk?"

I do not know if the following applies to University of Phoenix.

Strayer has campus/classroom classes for those graduate students who do not want online courses or an "online degree." I know people with MBAs and M.A.s from Strayer who did not take online courses or only took one online course (online courses and online degree programs are also offered at some nonprofit private and public colleges/universities these days). They only or primarily took campus/classroom classes with highly credited faculty. Too bad Strayer has a uniform method that prevents true faculty freedom and prevents faculty from being too creative with its students.

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For far less, he could have gone to an Executive MBA program at one of the local colleges and actually had a real MBA experience...and, isn't half of the MBA experience meeting and networking?

Sure, if those programs at local colleges and universities are geared toward nontraditional and older students with full-time jobs and/or families. Not every graduate program is geared toward that which is one reason why for-profit graduate programs make so much money.

Places like Strayer have a relatively strong alumnae/i base to assist with meeting and networking. Plus, they know that many of their students are professionals already in their fields. Unfortunately many of these people get mocked for getting a degree from a for-profit institution, regardless of how intelligent and experienced the person is.

I do not like for-profit institutions but, as I have said numerous times on GC, I can tolerate Strayer's graduate programs. They have planned these graduate programs (especially the campus classes) quite well and made a great deal of money for a very good reason. That will not change how some individuals and employers see for-profit schools.

Munchkin03 · #4 07-18-2012, 08:19 PM

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I do not know if the following applies to University of Phoenix.

I do not like for-profit institutions but, as I have said numerous times on GC, I can tolerate Strayer's graduate programs. They have planned these graduate programs (especially the campus classes) quite well and made a great deal of money for a very good reason. That will not change how some individuals and employers see for-profit schools.

From what I recall of Strayer, wasn't it a trade school (from back in the day where you could go to school to learn a business-related trade) that simply expanded into the online market? I'd imagine that the people who know would be okay with Strayer alumni, where UOPX has a well-deserved bad rap.

I think that's a far cry from someplace like UOPX which always catered to the at-home-during-the-day correspondence courses and took advantage of that market.

DrPhil · #5 07-30-2012, 07:12 PM

For-profits slammed.

Childhood online learning started in 1999. Is it safe to assume this is a for-profit targeting childhood education? Online learning has its limitations. For-profit and online learning are a bad idea for children even when they include partnerships with educators, administrators and schools.

Honeykiss1974 · #6 07-30-2012, 07:17 PM

I could actually see K12 being used for supplemental support for home schooled or even home bound students.

DrPhil · #7 07-30-2012, 07:31 PM

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I could actually see K12 being used for supplemental support for home schooled or even home bound students.

I too can see it working for children who are already being home schooled or are home bound.

It is probably also being used by parents who will use this to confirm their belief that the imperfections of the school systems warrant retreating to the confines of their homes.

KSUViolet06 · #8 07-30-2012, 07:31 PM

^^^I'm all about online school in a situation where a child has a health condition that somehow makes it difficult for him/her to participate at school. Or even if your kid has a special need that is not well served by your local district. Ex: many districts around me don't have teachers who are trained in Autism.

Otherwise, I'm not a fan of the whole home/online school thing.

What it ends up being used for is:

*I want to keep my child in a bubble for religious or other reasons and avoid exposing him to viewpoints that contradict ours.

*It is inconvenient for me to drive my child to school or have them in school all day. (I have seen some suburban moms say this.)

*School conflicts with my child's super important competitive gymnastics/hockey/baseball schedule and the school kept getting on my nerves about taking him out every other day for practice/meets/etc.

*The schools aren't teaching MY child what I think he or she should be learning. So screw school altogether and I'll do it myself. *cue making crafts all day and calling it "school."*

I know, you can flame me, but I have noticed that home school is now the hot new mom thing, and contrary to popular belief, just because you gave birth to someone, doesn't make you qualified to be in control of their education. This is particularly true if you have no training in education.

Ex: I know people who graduated from my HS with Cs and are homeschooling their kids with the aid of an online program. Said people also regularly confuse to/two on Facebook. Have a seat, and send your kids to school.

DrPhil · #9 07-30-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

^^^I'm all about online school in a situation where a child has a health condition that somehow makes it difficult for him/her to participate at school. Or even if your kid has a special need that is not well served by your local district. Ex: many districts around me don't have teachers who are trained in Autism.

Otherwise, I'm not a fan of the whole home/online school thing.

What it ends up being used for is:

*I want to keep my child in a bubble for religious or other reasons and avoid exposing him to viewpoints that contradict ours.

*It is inconvenient for me to drive my child to school or have them in school all day. (I have seen some suburban moms say this.)

*School conflicts with my child's super important competitive gymnastics/hockey/baseball schedule and the school kept getting on my nerves about taking him out every other day for practice/meets/etc.

*The schools aren't teaching MY child what I think he or she should be learning. So screw school altogether and I'll do it myself. *cue making crafts all day and calling it "school."*

I know, you can flame me, but I have noticed that home school is now the hot new mom thing, and contrary to popular belief, just because you gave birth to someone, doesn't make you qualified to be in control of their education. This is particularly true if you have no training in education.

Ex: I know people who graduated from my HS with Cs and are homeschooling their kids with the aid of an online program. Said people also regularly confuse to/two on Facebook. Have a seat, and send your kids to school.

You would only be flamed by those who are in denial.

Your post made me think of The Village. It was on SyFy yesterday. I am one of the relative few who like that movie. It speaks to the topic of online and home schooled K-12 learning. LOL.

als463 · #10 07-30-2012, 10:38 PM

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You would only be flamed by those who are in denial.
Your post made me think of The Village. It was on SyFy yesterday. I am one of the relative few who like that movie. It speaks to the topic of online and home schooled K-12 learning. LOL.

That is the truth! I agree 100% with everything you wrote KSUViolet. Seriously, I see so many people who can't differentiate between "there, they're, and their" but, they want to teach their children through home-school. Yeah, because YOU can do a MUCH BETTER job than someone who went to college for years and specialized in knowing the signs of learning disabilities and teaching your children.