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09-21-2011, 12:10 PM
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So I live on the other side of the planet. Has the US imploded yet? Fire and brimstone have begun careening down major roadways? I'm assuming this brought about the end of the US, if not the end of the entire world.
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09-20-2011, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Tradition
It's been shown that over half of the combat arms troops (infantry, armor, artillery, etc.) were against a repeal, as were the majority of flag grade officers (colonels, generals) polled.
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If we're quoting statistics, how about the one that says 92 percent of troops who believed they had served with a gay person said they never saw an impact on their units' morale or effectiveness.
What does that say to you, The Tradition? Could be why people call you a bigot.
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Long story short, people worry about it making soldiers uncomfortable, and therefore distracting them from the job at hand.
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And you don't think it's uncomfortable for homosexual soldiers to always have to be on guard about what they say and do?
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09-20-2011, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
All I have to say is ABOUT DAMN TIME.
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That's funny- that was going to be my exact comment!
As for Mc Cain...WTH? We are sending them to wars over and over again, screwing up their benefits, making them wait in line for medical care...but serving alongside gays and lesbians would be traumatizing?
As for this person who is "affiliated" with the military...um, thanks for your $0.02 but...what does affiliated with even mean, in this context? "Civilian lawmakers?" YOU are a civilian. I've been IN the military- 12 years- (you know, where it's YOUR hand being raised and taking the oath? Yeah- like that) and I don't see any problem with gay or lesbian soldiers- and neither do the majority of the soldiers I've served with. Every soldier probably knows other soldiers who are LBG, whom they serve with every day. They become part of the fabric of the unit and part of the family, they do their job, no one cares.
It's offensive that someone would make such a fuss over someone's sexuality when that person (and many faces come to mind as I type this) served with HONOR in COMBAT...did their jobs...excelled...saved lives...lead squads, mentored young soldiers...Served their country no different than anyone else who was in the same situation. Why should they have to lie about their personal life? Do you realize how hard that is when you live with these poeple 24/7? They are already making enough sacrafices! It's sad to see someone who is having a difficult time at home, and they have to alter their words, or not talk about it at all, because "home" involves a spouse or partner of the same gender.
Out or in, gays and lesbians have served in every war we've had...they deserve the rights they fought to achieve.
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