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09-09-2009, 07:20 AM
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I didn't know she had done that. That is great to hear. lmao
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I heard it on NPR...my source of most news on the way to and from work!
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09-09-2009, 07:17 AM
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I would REALLY like to view the original speech, if it was altered!
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09-09-2009, 11:02 AM
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I would REALLY like to view the original speech, if it was altered!
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Did I miss something? Has there been any actual report that the speech was altered to deflect criticism, or is that just speculation? I can't say I've ever heard of the text of a speech being released days before the speech is given. An hour or two to assist the press, yes, but up until then, they're usually still drafts.
I get the sense that lots of folks are confusing the speech with the (poorly thought out) lesson plan that the Department of Education issued to help teachers teach around the speech. That lesson plan was withdrawn and revised.
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09-09-2009, 11:14 AM
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Did I miss something? Has there been any actual report that the speech was altered to deflect criticism, or is that just speculation? I can't say I've ever heard of the text of a speech being released days before the speech is given. An hour or two to assist the press, yes, but up until then, they're usually still drafts.
I get the sense that lots of folks are confusing the speech with the (poorly thought out) lesson plan that the Department of Education issued to help teachers teach around the speech. That lesson plan was withdrawn and revised.
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I thought I saw somewhere that the White House has said that the speech was not altered.
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09-09-2009, 11:20 AM
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I don't think it matters whether or not it was altered (or they will tell us that it was altered).
We know that there are drafts of speeches, so that's neither here nor there.
The point is that beyond the eccentrism on BOTH sides of the debate, there are some good points made on BOTH sides of the debate. The problem is that people, in general, are so categorical that they feel they have to be 100% for or against.
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09-09-2009, 11:24 AM
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The POTUS is not THE White House representative and we do have a system of checks and balances that should never be blurred.
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Huh? The POTUS = the White House (at least in the sense that "White House" is a metonymy). Anybody else at the White House is answerable to him, represents him and speaks for him. And I fail to see how speeches from the president, even if there are too many of them, blur the system of checks and balances.
For that matter, I'm curious -- is the current president really using the bully pulpit that much more than any of his predecessors?
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The problem is that people, in general, are so categorical that they feel they have to be 100% for or against.
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Sadly true, even if they don't know what the debate is about.
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09-09-2009, 04:19 PM
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First you're black. Now you're a woman. Congrats, MC!
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09-09-2009, 04:36 PM
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Do you know many guys that use the name MysticCat?
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I know of at least one.
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09-09-2009, 05:41 PM
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Do you know many guys that use the name MysticCat?
Does he talk about handbags too?
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MMITY?
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09-09-2009, 05:42 PM
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MMITY?
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Of course, it is.
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09-09-2009, 05:44 PM
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Of course, it is.
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right.
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09-09-2009, 07:02 PM
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09-09-2009, 08:15 PM
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Quick!! Turn your TVs off and hide the kids!! Obama's voice will turn you into a socialist!!!
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09-09-2009, 08:39 PM
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Quick!! Turn your TVs off and hide the kids!! Obama's voice will turn you into a socialist!!!
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I think the real risk is that you'd die of boredom.
I don't think there's anyone left on the bubble to buy what he's selling tonight. People have already bought it or don't want it.
Anyone left in the middle is waiting to see the exact details, and I doubt he's getting into that tonight.
I suspect that he's just making people tired by being on the TV three days in a row: Labor Day speech, kid speech, and now health care.
How about some nice pictures of that cute dog instead, O?
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09-09-2009, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by UGAalum94
I think the real risk is that you'd die of boredom.
I don't think there's anyone left on the bubble to buy what he's selling tonight. People have already bought it or don't want it.
Anyone left in the middle is waiting to see the exact details, and I doubt he's getting into that tonight.
I suspect that he's just making people tired by being on the TV three days in a row: Labor Day speech, kid speech, and now health care.
How about some nice pictures of that cute dog instead, O?
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Excellent.
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