University of Texas daughter's *actual* recruitment '11

[DrPhil]

It is stalking. No one is saying that the outcome was good. What people seem to be saying is that the outcome was rather predictable, hence the warnings.

Preaching about crazy readers, sock puppets, and trolls doesn't make any sense. There is nothing that can be done about those beyond editing and banning. What can be done is people being careful about what they divulge and heeding warnings.

[carnation]

I'm not even talking about the mom who was "warned". This was someone else.

GCers often ask after someone has been attacked, "Why are you upset? It's only a message board." Yep...but I and others have been the victims of people who decided to go off the boards and tried to hurt us IRL.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by carnation

I'm not even talking about the mom who was "warned". This was someone else.

Only some of you know what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by carnation

Yep...but I and others have been the victims of people who decided to go off the boards and tried to hurt us IRL.

This has always been an issue on GC and other message boards. People bring real life to message boards and message boards to real life. It is crazy but the people who do that don't care how people feel about it.

[Ladybugmom]

Originally Posted by carnation

Without going into much detail: for instance, one troll/sock posted on GC what a particular PNM was wearing to parties that day. She had no idea how some stranger/creeper knew and it was posted as if to warn her, "I'm watching you."

I was able to delete it quickly and was horrified. I mean, this is stalking.

Wow..just Wow..I am sickened by this!! This person or persons is just perpetuating the sterotypes of sorority girls in a very bad way. I hope whoever you are feel horrible about this..but I suspect that you have no conscience or life..maybe you need to get one!

[als463]

Originally Posted by Ladybugmom

Wow..just Wow..I am sickened by this!! This person or persons is just perpetuating the sterotypes of sorority girls in a very bad way. I hope whoever you are feel horrible about this..but I suspect that you have no conscience or life..maybe you need to get one!

That's just it. No one knows (without names being given) who this sock puppet or troll was that did this. Instead of making generalizations, someone should call that person out. I'd be willing to bet that 9 times out of 10, the person who did that was not a regular GC member on here. We are all too busy with our lives to go above and beyond to worry about Patty PNM and how we can ruin her recruitment experience. Actually, I take offense to those posters who want to keep coming on here saying someone is being rude, disrespectful, spiteful, etc. Don't lump me (or many of the other GC members) into that category.

Also, if someone tells you that you are giving away too much information to the point it has become easy to figure out more about you or your daughter---take the advice and step away from the keyboard. People need to start taking responsibility for their poor actions before coming on a chat forum and blaming everyone here.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

That's just it. No one knows (without names being given) who this sock puppet or troll was that did this. Instead of making generalizations, someone should call that person out. I'd be willing to bet that 9 times out of 10, the person who did that was not a regular GC member on here. We are all too busy with our lives to go above and beyond to worry about Patty PNM and how we can ruin her recruitment experience.

You're right, no one knows who these sock puppets or trolls are. I wouldn't bet that it wasn't a GC regular because I don't know what the people behind the usernames are doing. Instead of wasting time worrying about who did it and whether they were a GC regular, I think you were right that people need to focus on the lesson to be learned.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by carnation

Without going into much detail: for instance, one troll/sock posted on GC what a particular PNM was wearing to parties that day. She had no idea how some stranger/creeper knew and it was posted as if to warn her, "I'm watching you."

I was able to delete it quickly and was horrified. I mean, this is stalking.

Originally Posted by als463

That's just it. No one knows (without names being given) who this sock puppet or troll was that did this. Instead of making generalizations, someone should call that person out. I'd be willing to bet that 9 times out of 10, the person who did that was not a regular GC member on here.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You're right, no one knows who these sock puppets or trolls are.

Question: Do mods have the ability to see IP addresses? If they do, that could certainly help at least the mods identify whether the people doing these things are regular GCers or not.

I think you were right that people need to focus on the lesson to be learned.

This.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You're right, no one knows who these sock puppets or trolls are. I wouldn't bet that it wasn't a GC regular because I don't know what the people behind the usernames are doing. Instead of wasting time worrying about who did it and whether they were a GC regular, I think you were right that people need to focus on the lesson to be learned.

I'll make this even more blunt for the rest of you:

Spend less time worrying that I'll follow your daughter through recruitment, and worry more about whether I'll be able to figure out who your daughter is - and of course the stalkers are the ones who are "in the wrong" but it doesn't much matter, because you only have control over one side of the equation here.

This is yet another reason why recruitment threads are kind of an abomination on the already-blighted face of the internet - after all, it's a "yay follow along!" thing, but then, like, TOTALLY all sad-face frowny when somebody follows along TOO MUCH.

[DubaiSis]

First, I'd like to go on record and say I'm no sock puppet!

Second, I completely understand that a mother wouldn't think it's THAT important to keep your daughter's identity a complete secret. It seems crazy to me that anyone uses this site as anything beyond a little information, a little entertainment. But there are a lot of psychos out there, and many of them wear Greek letters with pride. In the future, maybe pointing out that there are people who are literally, in the flesh, in real life, stalking their daughters, would turn the lightbulb on. I'm really sorry that a girl who, as far as I've been able to ascertain from this tragic thread had no punishable flaws, had to learn this the hard way. But we can be glad it wasn't a lesson learned ending in real tragedy.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Question: Do mods have the ability to see IP addresses? If they do, that could certainly help at least the mods identify whether the people doing these things are regular GCers or not.

No we don't. Only John can.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

This is yet another reason why recruitment threads are kind of an abomination on the already-blighted face of the internet - after all, it's a "yay follow along!" thing, but then, like, TOTALLY all sad-face frowny when somebody follows along TOO MUCH.

BOY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IN SORORITY RUSH THREAD.

[victoriana]

I've been staying away from this clusterfuck as much as possible, because this is truly awful. I can't imagine why someone would want to spend their time and energy stalking Wary and her poor daughter just because they didn't like some of the posts Wary made. It's really scary to think that someone's entire rush and Greek future could be ruined because of GC. To the people who tanked Zoe's rush because of an internet conversation, shame on you. You have no right to do something like that. You must have no life.

[greekalum]

It's really scary to think that someone's entire rush and Greek future could be ruined because of GC. To the people who tanked Zoe's rush because of an internet conversation, shame on you.

Well, assuming that's what happened. It's also quite possible whatever/whoever has a thing against Wary and/or her daughter was annoying here but had little to no influence on her actual rush.

[AZTheta]

Stalking.

That word raises all the hair on my neck and head, and I get a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. My mouth gets dry and I tense up.

One man who stalked me is now dead. The other is on the other side of the country. As long as I live, I will continue to be hypervigilant (ask AZ-AlphaXi and AOIIAngel, they've seen me in action when I perceive danger or what I think is a threat to my security and well-being).

So once again I mention Gavin DeBecker's The Gift of Fear. It was my lifeline during those dark days.

I'm not saying that's what happened here, but if people have concerns, it's an invaluable reference on what to do, how to act, and how to survive when and if you're stalked.

I was lucky. I lived. And I have two very protective Belgian Shepherds (a Tervuren and a Groenendael) living with me; they are formidable watchers over me.

Deep peace and blessings to all.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by ellebud

There are LOVELY girls (and their moms) here. Many come here for information, gather it, move on or become regular posters. There are perps here, as there are on any board. My personal favorite was the girl who went to the docks to pick the oysters for her pearl necklace.

Does anyone remember which thread had the pearl picker?

I wonder if Wary's daughter pledged a spirit group.