So What Happens Now? - Page 5

jubilance1922 · #61 04-11-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The law has put many innocent people into jails. In this case, the law has ruined their reputations before a trial or even an indictment.

They provided DNA evidence and have every right to not help "The law" screw them.

-Rudey

Do you really feel its ok for someone to do nothing when they someone being attacked? And then not come forward with information, especially if it will exonerate you?

GTFOH...

Rudey · #62 04-11-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
I'd like proof that she worked as an escort, not just that she worked for an escort agency.

Once again, how is she "pulling the race card" if her alleged attackers shouted racial epithets AT HER? She's not responsible for that, nor is she responsible for the media's spin on the story. I seriously doubt that she's some type of Jedi using mind tricks to get people to do her bidding.

I don't know what kind of evidence I would need to not believe her. But I know I don't have it now, and until I do, I'm going to believe her story.

Right. She was a secretary for the escort agency that sent her out that night.

And whether they did it or they didn't, you believe her. So I just don't know what to tell you I guess.

-Rudey

jubilance1922 · #63 04-11-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Right. She was a secretary for the escort agency that sent her out that night.

And whether they did it or they didn't, you believe her. So I just don't know what to tell you I guess.

-Rudey

Say what you want, you can't prove she's a prostitute. And even if she was, even if she slept with 100 men that night before she got to the party, if she didn't consent then that is rape!

Ch2tf · #64 04-11-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The law has put many innocent people into jails. In this case, the law has ruined their reputations before a trial or even an indictment.
They provided DNA evidence and have every right to not help "The law" screw them.

It sounds like your problem then is with the DA/Police and the Media and not this young woman. Whether she is telling the truth or not remain to be seen. But if you have a problem with how they guys have been portrayed in the media, then take it to the right place. Like Jubilance said, I doubt she is a Jedi miraculously making others do her bidding. If the DA chose to make the issue highly public before the trial, and if the media chose to use the "race card" as you put it, then that is their choice not hers.

Rudey · #65 04-11-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
Do you really feel its ok for someone to do nothing when they someone being attacked? And then not come forward with information, especially if it will exonerate you?

GTFOH...

Well see that's like asking if pigs could fly. I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with, if I had been I would have tried to stop it, and if something awful happened I would provide information with the assistance of a lawyer so that no crooked pig could try and screw me.

In Tawana Brawley's case the police were to blame and in this case the police are the good guys. I just am so confused.

-Rudey

Rudey · #66 04-11-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
Say what you want, you can't prove she's a prostitute. And even if she was, even if she slept with 100 men that night before she got to the party, if she didn't consent then that is rape!

Well they didn't find semen, latex, or lubricant traces. Maybe she's the virgin mary.

And saying she worked for an escort agency and was sent out by an escort agency is enough proof short of providing you a video of her taking cash for poontang.

-Rudey

jubilance1922 · #67 04-11-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Well see that's like asking if pigs could fly. I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with, if I had been I would have tried to stop it, and if something awful happened I would provide information with the assistance of a lawyer so that no crooked pig could try and screw me.

In Tawana Brawley's case the police were to blame and in this case the police are the good guys. I just am so confused.

-Rudey

I never made a comment about the police in either case.

Try to stay on topic Rudey, and make comments on things I ACTUALLY TYPE.

mccoyred · #68 04-11-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
She worked for an escort agency. I did reply to your post about epithets and you didn't reply back.

Prostitute isn't a bad word just like a stripper isn't a bad word.

-Rudey

I didn't reply back because I realize that no matter how I explained it (being a BLACK WOMAN myself) that you wouldn't get it.

Rudey · #69 04-11-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Ch2tf
It sounds like your problem then is with the DA/Police and the Media and not this young woman. Whether she is telling the truth or not remain to be seen. But if you have a problem with how they guys have been portrayed in the media, then take it to the right place. Like Jubilance said, I doubt she is a Jedi miraculously making others do her bidding. If the DA chose to make the issue highly public before the trial, and if the media chose to use the "race card" as you put it, then that is their choice not hers.

If she lied about it, it wasn't rape, there were no racist words used, and then the DA and media worked off that, then she most definitely is the problem.

And a lot of my problem is with the DA, the police, and the media. Unlike jubilance who can't be convinced otherwise, I want the evidence to do the talking.

-Rudey

Rudey · #70 04-11-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
I never made a comment about the police in either case.

Try to stay on topic Rudey, and make comments on things I ACTUALLY TYPE.

You give testimony to the police sugar.

-Rudey

Rudey · #71 04-11-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by mccoyred
I didn't reply back because I realize that no matter how I explained it (being a BLACK WOMAN myself) that you wouldn't get it.

Cop out?

-Rudey

mccoyred · #72 04-11-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Cop out?

-Rudey

Rudey · #73 04-11-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by mccoyred

You better get a doctor to look at your lazy eye.

Make sure it's a BLACK WOMAN though.

-Rudey

jubilance1922 · #74 04-11-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Well they didn't find semen, latex, or lubricant traces. Maybe she's the virgin mary.

And saying she worked for an escort agency and was sent out by an escort agency is enough proof short of providing you a video of her taking cash for poontang.

-Rudey

If working for an escort service was proof that someone was a prostitute, then why don't the police and DA's go after all of them and shut them down?

Ch2tf · #75 04-11-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
If she lied about it, it wasn't rape, there were no racist words used, and then the DA and media worked off that, then she most definitely is the problem. And a lot of my problem is with the DA, the police, and the media. Unlike jubilance who can't be convinced otherwise, I want the evidence to do the talking.

IF she lied, and that has been no more "proven" than it has that those boys raped her. You happen to fall on the side of immediately giving the benefit of the doubt to the lacrosse players while others have given the benefit of the doubt to the victim. And by the way, according to the initial news reports, the victim was not the only person that provided testimony to the police about hearing racial slurs coming from the house. There is a recorded 911 call to police by a young black woman who was passing by the house, stating that she had just been called racial slurs, and a neighbor who commented about hear the epiteths (spelling?) coming from the home. So as far as the "race card", racism, etc. preliminarily it was a recorded incident at the house.