Advice to incoming freshmen on campus safety... - Page 5

CrackerBarrel · #61 08-19-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If we're going to be sticklers for statistics, can you back up your claim that rapes and sexual assaults exist at lower rates?

Sure.
http://police.ua.edu/csr/stats.html
http://www.auburn.edu/administration...-offenses.html
http://www.police.uga.edu/crimestati...tatistics.html
http://www.utexas.edu/police/reports...estats2007.pdf
http://www.police.ufl.edu/pdf_files/2006/UFPD%20Safe%20Campus-9.pdf
http://www.lsu.com/pubsafety/lsupoli...s?OpenDocument

From http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...8/ai_n10028294, the national rape rate is 64.8 per 100,000 people.

Alabama has 25,580 students for a rate of 11.7 per 100,000 people
Auburn has 24,137 students for a rate of 4.1 per 100,000 people
UGA has 33,831 students for a rate of 5.9 per 100,000 people.
Texas has 36,878 undergrad students for a rate of 2.7 per 100,000 people.
UF has 34,612 undergrad students for a rate of 11.6 per 100,000 people.
LSU has 33,587 students for a rate of 3.0 per 100,000 people.

There you go.

ETA: And most of these schools are lumping rape and forcible sexual assault (which is any sexual assault other than incest or statutory rape together), so it's possible I'm actually overestimating the rape rates.

Tinia2 · #62 08-19-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Sure.
http://police.ua.edu/csr/stats.html
http://www.auburn.edu/administration...-offenses.html
http://www.police.uga.edu/crimestati...tatistics.html
http://www.utexas.edu/police/reports...estats2007.pdf
http://www.police.ufl.edu/pdf_files/2006/UFPD%20Safe%20Campus-9.pdf http://www.lsu.com/pubsafety/lsupoli...s?OpenDocument

From http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...8/ai_n10028294, the national rape rate is 64.8 per 100,000 people.

Alabama has 25,580 students for a rate of 11.7 per 100,000 people
Auburn has 24,137 students for a rate of 4.1 per 100,000 people
UGA has 33,831 students for a rate of 5.9 per 100,000 people.
Texas has 36,878 undergrad students for a rate of 2.7 per 100,000 people.
UF has 34,612 undergrad students for a rate of 11.6 per 100,000 people.
LSU has 33,587 students for a rate of 3.0 per 100,000 people.

There you go.

ETA: And most of these schools are lumping rape and forcible sexual assault (which is any sexual assault other than incest or statutory rape together), so it's possible I'm actually overestimating the rape rates.

Those statistics are all well and good. As far as they go as they are based on crimes that are reported.
Several of us, myself included, have already posted that we are personally aware of crimes that were never reported thus are not part of those statistics.
Not reporting, or in terms of statistics underreporting, certain types of crime is part of society in general and is not exclusive to campus life. However being part of a smaller segment may put even more pressure on someone not to say anything.
And because of both jurisdictional over lap as well as boundaries between campus and city, some crimes to students may not even be reported as such.
Read this story about University of Arkansas: http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/20...8azuacrime.txt
Bottom line would seem to be not to focus on statistics but in being proactive in awareness, prevention and protection.

knight_shadow · #63 08-19-2008, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Sure.
http://police.ua.edu/csr/stats.html
http://www.auburn.edu/administration...-offenses.html
http://www.police.uga.edu/crimestati...tatistics.html
http://www.utexas.edu/police/reports...estats2007.pdf
http://www.police.ufl.edu/pdf_files/...20Campus-9.pdf
http://www.lsu.com/pubsafety/lsupoli...s?OpenDocument

From http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...8/ai_n10028294, the national rape rate is 64.8 per 100,000 people.

Alabama has 25,580 students for a rate of 11.7 per 100,000 people
Auburn has 24,137 students for a rate of 4.1 per 100,000 people
UGA has 33,831 students for a rate of 5.9 per 100,000 people.
Texas has 36,878 undergrad students for a rate of 2.7 per 100,000 people.
UF has 34,612 undergrad students for a rate of 11.6 per 100,000 people.
LSU has 33,587 students for a rate of 3.0 per 100,000 people.

There you go.

ETA: And most of these schools are lumping rape and forcible sexual assault (which is any sexual assault other than incest or statutory rape together), so it's possible I'm actually overestimating the rape rates.

Thanks for backing up your claim. But again, like several others have stated, these represent reported crimes. I'm sure if other incidents were factored in, they would be close to (or on par) with the national average.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinia2

Bottom line would seem to be not to focus on statistics but in being proactive in awareness, prevention and protection.

Co-sign.

CrackerBarrel · #64 08-19-2008, 11:14 AM

There's no compelling reason I've seen to believe colleges would have a lower reporting rate than anywhere else in the country. It's a problem to be sure, but lots of rapes are going to go unreported in any jurisdiction for primarily the same reason, the victims feel ashamed even though they have no reason to. But really that argument doesn't hold a lot of weight. Yes my rates are based only on crimes that are reported, but so is the national figure so they are measuring the same thing and in terms of statistics make a great comparison.

And I don't disagree with the idea that prevention is a good idea. You certainly should learn the facts and be prepared, I just took issue with the portrayal some were trying to give of college campuses being these hot spots for rape.

Tom Earp · #65 08-19-2008, 02:17 PM

Pont of fact as was pointed out, many Schools have a bigger population than many towns in the country.

Just because the students are supposed to be more educated doesn't keep things from happening and in many cases rapes are not reported as one said because of embarassment that is true even though it was not the females fault.

We all may have felt safe on campus, but it does and can happen.

fantASTic · #66 08-22-2008, 07:45 PM

I have been out of town..thanks CrackerBarrel and 33Girl. I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes that much of these statistics are crap. I do believe that we should all be prepared, because ANYTHING can happen...but just like not all Greeks [or even MOST Greeks] are hazers, not every man you meet is a potential rapist, and to treat them as such is demeaning to all males.

Psi U MC Vito · #67 08-22-2008, 08:38 PM

And I would like to point out that safety doesn't only apply to females and rape. A good friend of mine was mugged at knife point recently less then a block from campus. Just to let people know that safety is important to everyone regardless.

one800thekiller · #68 08-31-2008, 03:07 AM

My only advice is...you only have one life to live, so live it to the fullest!

#69 08-02-2009, 05:49 PM

Don't try to out drink your friends, thats how people die from alcohol.

Always know how you are getting home from a party.

exlurker · #70 09-11-2009, 09:27 PM

Be Careful around Windows, Especially If Woozy, Drunk, or High

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. (WLFI) - A Purdue student is hospitalized after falling out of a fraternity house window.

University spokeswoman Jeanne Norberg said the student fell out of a second-story window at the Delta Chi house sometime before 4:00 a.m Wednesday.

The above is an excerpt from this report:

http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/l...udent_20090910

And in Idaho there've been two separate incidents recently. See:

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/200...ernity-window/

ETA: Update Oct. 27 '09: One of the Idaho students apparently is now doing fairly well; the other is still hospitalized, if I'm understanding this news item correctly:
http://www.khq.com/Global/story.asp?S=11384848

BOSMI · #71 09-22-2009, 03:04 AM

When you lock your bicycle in the day, remember you might have to get it late at night. Think ahead.

Arena Arianna

LionTamer · #72 09-22-2009, 10:11 AM

1. Stick with beer. You quickly learn your tolerance, and are less likely to far over-shoot your limit.

My Dad gave me this advice when i was going off to college, and it served me well, and this was before date rape drugs. You have know idea how much alcohol is in punches, mixed drinks, or jello shots. If I could tell you how often in college I had to carry home friends after I had beer and they had "hairy gorilla" punch or killer strawberry daquiris ("okay, Jane, just put your arm around my shoulder. Come on, we can do this. I am NOT leaving you here.")

2. Date rape is WAY under-reported. I learned this after a good friend tried to rape me, and I started telling people how I was lucky to get him to stop. One girl I told started crying, and when I asked why, she said "With me, he didn't stop ." Another friend said "Sh#t - he did that to my roommate." So imagine how many girls this guy victimized if TWO of the people I told my story to had similar experiences with the same guy. None of us reported him to authorities (although I told as many girls as possible about what happened). A knee to the groin works if you can manage it. Sadly, I know this from experience.

3. The safety info on this thread, especially about walking around drunk and alone APPLIES TO GUYS. Yesterday, they found the body of a Penn State freshman guy who had gone out drinking with friends. Fraternity party to apartment to fraternity. His friends left him at the last fraternity, and when he attempted to walk home, it seems as though he fell into an (outside) stairwell (stairs to the basement of a building), where his body was found a day later. If his friends had INSISTED that he return to the dorms with them, this is far less likely to have happened. Safety in numbers, folks.

Munchkin03 · #73 09-22-2009, 01:04 PM

When my father was dropping me off at college, he told me never to put my drink down, and that if I put down a drink that I should never pick it back up. (This was in 1999, the height of the roofies craze.)

Well, I took his advice and if I ever needed to go outside (this was back when you could smoke in fraternity houses in RI) or to the bathroom, I would just chug the rest of what I had.

That was clearly not that Papa had in mind.

KSUViolet06 · #74 09-22-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Well, I took his advice and if I ever needed to go outside (this was back when you could smoke in fraternity houses in RI) or to the bathroom, I would just chug the rest of what I had.

That was clearly not that Papa had in mind.

HAHA.

On a safety note:

Always make sure that someone knows where you're going when you leave!

Just a safety thing, that way if you don't come home in the AM or something, someone knows where you said you were going.

Example: If you tell your roomie that you were headed to work and would be home at 8 PM, then she knows to be concerned if it gets to be like 3 AM and you're still gone.

Or if you write on your whiteboard "out at Sig Ep xoxo," and someone notices the next day that it's like 4pm, they haven't seen you, and you haven't been to classes or work, they know the last place you went.

Most of the time, if you're late coming home, it's probably no big deal (girls stay over after parties and stuff all the time).

But you just never know.

AyUaxe · #75 11-02-2009, 04:00 AM

There is not enough water in beer or any other liquor to keep you hydrated and alcohol takes a lot of water out of your system. Coffee and tea are the opposite of helpful, since they are diuretics. Drink as much water as you can every coupla drinks, if you want to go the distance. Dehydration can cause permanent organ damage and even death, all with very little warning.