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ReachTheLimit · #**691** 10-16-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Your lack of knowledge on the matter does not mean it didn't happen.

Well, not lack of my knowledge. I would think that would be more along the lines of "lack of existance".

tunatartare · #**692** 10-16-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

I never saw any posts that would suggest that.

That's because they were deleted, locked, edited, or moved to the mods' corner. I can think of at least one poster who came on here and said that she wanted to AI into QRS because they seemed to be the easiest to get into according to the roll call.

kddani · #**693** 10-16-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I don't know that to be fact. This sounds like here-say. Are there any speeches on the internet from these International Officers where I can read this?

If AI is ritual.. how would you know that about other groups?

It's "hearsay" not "here-say". Guess your copy editor would fix that for you back when you reported on legal happenings.

I know very few people who make "speeches" on the internet, and none of them are international officers.

I'm not sure if any of them posted publicly about it, and I don't have the time to search. You are more than welcome to look for them on your own.

The process of selecting members for AI is private membership information, yes. A group being inundated with inquiries because of GC isn't part of that process.

AlphaFrog · #**694** 10-16-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Well, obviously no one corrected it if it was wrong and in the very short time that I have been on this board, Penguin and Carnation have been the moderators, and the list was just deleted a few days ago. So, the opportunity was clearly there to change it.

That's why I think it was accurate.

This is exactly why you need to stop arguing about this. You HAVEN'T been around to see some of the trainwrecks that have been deleted, trust those of us who have seen it. PT and carnation have not been mods of AI for long...before it was Tom Earp, who likes to stick his nose in NPC business where it doesn't belong.

_Lisa_ · #**695** 10-16-2006, 02:34 PM

Many posts and threads on GreekChat are deleted, modified, and/or moved on a regular basis. If you cannot find a specific post or thread it does not mean that it did not exist at one point in the past.

AlexMack · #**696** 10-16-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

BINGO!

Was his name-o!

I think you are taking the 'AI is ritual' a bit too literally. Obviously the fact it exists is NOT ritual or you wouldn't know about it, this forum wouldn't exist etc etc.
What is classified information is sororities' individual policies on AI. If there's going to be a list detailing who's easy, who's more difficult and who's AI process is such that you have more of a chance of immaculate conception then I may as well start a website that lists the reasons people get rejected during undergrad recruitment.

greekalum · #**697** 10-16-2006, 02:35 PM

[QUOTE=ReachTheLimit;1339794]You bring this up alot.

Why do you assume that everyone that wants to AI got rejected in college? That is not at all true. When your parents are paying all the bills because you have a difficult major, or if you attend a school that has no Greek system, those are very valid reasons for not joining. I was told I couldn't work, and as long as they are paying the bills, they get to make the rules. When you are not working, your parents control the cash flow and not all of them can see the benefit of sorority membership.

Many women here joined sororities while working and/or over parental objections and/or with difficult majors. Women who want to join sororities should look into whether or not their college has a Greek system before applying. None of those are "valid reasons for not joining." Theya re individual EXCUSES, and they do not grant the person using them a free pass to join when it is more convenient for them.

What about super-competitive SEC schools where if you don't get in as a Freshman you can pretty much give it up? These boards are full of women that went through as Freshman, that are beautiful, had recs, graduated with honors, but the bid matching system didn't give them a home. It happens! Are you saying these women can never be a valued member of your organization or have to wait on the random chance that they will meet an Alumnae member who will magically know their interest, and then even THINK about recruiting them for AI?

Not everyone has to go to an SEC school.
Do you go to work every day looking for women to join your organization? It's just not something that comes up when you are out of college and working a real job.

No, because my organization does not rely on AI. We do not need AIs. It is an honor and a privelege for SOME organizations but not the sorority's lifeblood.

You are overlooking a very valuable resource that can be very valuable to your organization. I'm a single person with no other obligations. I am finally in a place in my career where I need something more, and this is what I have decided to do. If funds allow later, I would love to assist women financially in their persuit, I would also like to assist new college grads in finding jobs, which is getting to be more and more difficult.

No one is overlooking the fact that there are many single women in their twenties with lots of free time! Sororities just have different membership criteria than "someone with nothing else to do.

OtterXO · #**698** 10-16-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

I never saw any posts that would suggest that.

You've been on this board for less than two months..... things get deleted.

Drolefille · #**699** 10-16-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Well, not lack of my knowledge. I would think that would be more along the lines of "lack of existance".

So you would maintain that anything you do not see does not exist? You trust only your own eyes? Your lack of knowledge has no effect on the reality of a thing.

While I think that there is always going to be abuse of the forums, removing the list helps to alleviate this.

ReachTheLimit · #**700** 10-16-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

That's because they were deleted, locked, edited, or moved to the mods' corner. I can think of at least one poster who came on here and said that she wanted to AI into QRS because they seemed to be the easiest to get into according to the roll call.

One? One person and 100% of the others are all mysteriously deleted?

Sounds too convenient.

I don't think one poster constitutes suddenly a rampant problem. One poster out of thousands of members on GC? Hmmm...it's a wonder the Nationals haven't had to hire extra temps to handle the floods of calls.

blueangel · #**701** 10-16-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick

Do you get all your source material from the internet? I'm sorry, but its time to learn that there are other ways of getting information than from the internet!

Of course not. But when you make a statement like that, you need to be able to source it, otherwise it's just heresay.

greekalum · #**702** 10-16-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I don't know that to be fact. This sounds like here-say. Are there any speeches on the internet from these International Officers where I can read this?

If AI is ritual.. how would you know that about other groups?

Is here-say a law reporter's term?

AlexMack · #**703** 10-16-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

One? One person and 100% of the others are all mysteriously deleted?

Sounds too convenient.

I don't think one poster constitutes suddenly a rampant problem. One poster out of thousands of members on GC? Hmmm...it's a wonder the Nationals haven't had to hire extra temps to handle the floods of calls.

They don't have to post. It's already been established that this forum shows up on a google search. These forums are public and anyone can see.

Drolefille · #**704** 10-16-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

One? One person and 100% of the others are all mysteriously deleted?

Sounds too convenient.

I don't think one poster constitutes suddenly a rampant problem. One poster out of thousands of members on GC? Hmmm...it's a wonder the Nationals haven't had to hire extra temps to handle the floods of calls.

Inappropriate posts getting deleted or modded away? That's not that unusual.

THat's like saying all of the spam posts getting deleted is too convenient.

OtterXO · #**705** 10-16-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

One? One person and 100% of the others are all mysteriously deleted?

Sounds too convenient.

I don't think one poster constitutes suddenly a rampant problem. One poster out of thousands of members on GC? Hmmm...it's a wonder the Nationals haven't had to hire extra temps to handle the floods of calls.

No, not mysteriously deleted and not ONE person. They (multiple threads) turn into trainwrecks (similar to this) and then end up getting deleted.