Harry Potter Speculation - Page 42

MysticCat · #1 04-11-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes
It's a good theory but of course, Snape did ultimately kill Dumbledore with the Aveda Kedavera curse. Then we see Dumbledore as a portrait in his former office.
I do see the points the author made though. Very good.

Not saying I buy the theory, but if you read through all of the discussion you'll see that addressed quite a bit, with people noting that (1) where does JKR ever say that a portrait can only be in the HM office if the subject is dead; and (2) the theory is that DD drank the draught of the living death, and thus only appears to be dead (in a very deep sleep resembling death), and the portriat shows DD sleeping.

As for the AK curse, I think reasonable arguments can be made (and have been made) both ways -- that Snape really performed the AK or that he only appeared to.

All I can say is that I find this theory both well thought out and fascinating. Ever since Snape quizzed Harry about the Draught of the Living Death in Book 1, the subject has come up over and over again. Makes sense to me we might actually see it used at some point. Not saying that this is the time, but I wonder.

Reading the essay and the discussion, I had to wonder if JKR had read The Rainbow and the Serpent.

BetteDavisEyes · #2 04-11-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
Reading the essay and the discussion, I had to wonder if JKR had read The Rainbow and the Serpent.

Ooooh! Good catch.

I like the theory & personally think it's one of the better ones I've heard. All we can do is wait until the last book comes out but damn the speculation is fun!

On another note, did anyone else take the WOMBAT test when she had the locked door opened for a few days? I did & took a bizarre test. I just got my score & I got an "Exceeds Expectations" on it. Pretty neat.

CutiePie2000 · #3 04-11-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
Reading the essay and the discussion, I had to wonder if JKR had read The Rainbow and the Serpent.

I think you mean The Serpent and the Rainbow but that's okay...you know that I heart you, sugar.

MysticCat · #4 04-11-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by CutiePie2000
I think you mean The Serpent and the Rainbow but that's okay...you I heart you, sugar.

Indeed I did. Somedays, there just isn't enough caffiene in the world . . . especially as I get older and older.

(I can just hear MysticCat Jr. -- "You're losing your mind, dad.")

Lindz928 · #5 04-11-2006, 04:23 PM

That theory was pretty interesting. Definitely didn't change my mind about Dumbledore being dead though.

But GEEZ! I started reading some of the forum and those people started to get WAY too carried away with some of the ideas (IMO). I had to stop reading it cause it was annoying me.

One person actually said something like "DD could have fallen off the tower, then lifted the body bind on Harry, then broken the fake horcrux, then found the note, then.... blah blah blah." Right dude, he did all of that after being hit with a curse (even if it was a "soft" one) and while falling (even if it was slowed down". Sure he did. And just ignore the fact that he didn't even have his wand on him at the time.

And what is with people saying that Snape was casting two spells at the same time? One verbal, one non-verbal?!?!? Are you kidding? How would his wand know which one to listen to?

Some of that stuff just seems WAY too out in left field- even for JKR.

I really did find the idea of the lake in the cave being a potion really interesting though. But wasn't that a REALLY big lake? Can you imagine how much potion it would take to fill that up???

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(1) where does JKR ever say that a portrait can only be in the HM office if the subject is dead; and (2) the theory is that DD drank the draught of the living death, and thus only appears to be dead (in a very deep sleep resembling death), and the portriat shows DD sleeping.

I do think there might be something to these ideas though. The idea that the portraits don't necessarily have to be of DEAD headmasters, but merely PAST headmasters. *shrug*

MysticCat · #6 04-12-2006, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by Lindz928
And what is with people saying that Snape was casting two spells at the same time? One verbal, one non-verbal?!?!? Are you kidding? How would his wand know which one to listen to?

Actually, that's something that I think one of the most accomplished Legilimens could probably do.

But you're right. Some of those people really need to come out from under the rocks and live in reality for a while.

ASUADPi · #7 04-13-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Lindz928

I really did find the idea of the lake in the cave being a potion really interesting though. But wasn't that a REALLY big lake? Can you imagine how much potion it would take to fill that up???

I do think there might be something to these ideas though. The idea that the portraits don't necessarily have to be of DEAD headmasters, but merely PAST headmasters. *shrug*

Makes sense to me. I really hate the thought of DD actually being dead. I hate the thought of Snape being the one who killed him. I'm still really torn about Snape, which is probably the intention of JKR, to be questioning everything about him.

Lindz928 · #8 04-13-2006, 06:13 PM

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Makes sense to me. I really hate the thought of DD actually being dead. I hate the thought of Snape being the one who killed him. I'm still really torn about Snape, which is probably the intention of JKR, to be questioning everything about him.

I still absolutely believe that Snape is not completely evil. I really think that DD knew everything- about the unbreakable vow and that Snape was going to have to kill him. And that Snape has still been a double-agent. After all (as someone in those forums pointed out) at the end of book 6, when the Death Eaters were running away, he could easily have grabbed Harry and taken him directly to Voldemort. But, he didn't. I think that says something.

But, I have yet to be convinced that DD is still alive somehow. I think it makes SO much sense that Harry has to go down this last path WITHOUT his help. Think about it- Harry is about to become an adult (at the beginning of book 7). It is time for him to stand on his own 2 feet. Of course, he will have his friends right by his side, but this time HE has to do the work. I see it as a HUGE transition that he has to make to become a man.

And I just don't think it would make sense for JKR to go through all of that and then just say, "Oh- my bad. DD only 'appeared' dead." I guess I think it would make for a weak ending.

Wow, I sound very heated in all of these posts... I promise I'm not!!! Haha.

BetteDavisEyes · #9 10-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Just a quick FYI: J.K. has updated her website & the mystery door is open again. You get to take the 2nd WOMBAT exam. If you still have your code from the first test, rack it out & use it. If not, you'll have to get another one & not have both tests recorded together.

BetteDavisEyes · #10 12-21-2006, 12:19 PM

SHE HAS RELEASED THE TITLE OF THE 7TH AND FINAL BOOK!!!

(sorry for the Capslock but my inner fangirl hasn't stopped screeching since I woke up this morning to the news)

I won't spoil the tile for those of you who'd rather do the Hangman by yourself but here's how to open the door.

Go to the locked door b/c it is now open. Click on the door in the mirror and a tree will appear. Click on the top portion of the main door and a wreath will appear. Then click on the ceiling of the room in the mirror and strung garland will appear. Then click on the spider web next to the little table and both spider webs will appear. Finally, click on the windchime. This is tricky b/c you have to click on one chime specifically (the 2nd to the right) and a key will appear. Grab the key and open the door. Click on the present and a hangman game will appear. Have fun!

BaylorBean · #11 12-21-2006, 12:37 PM

Thanks for the tips!

I'm not sure how I feel about it. The title doesn't seem as impactful as her others.

jubilance1922 · #12 12-21-2006, 12:56 PM

Ok, I'm a big loser and I want to know what the name is, but I don't know anything about the W.O.M.B.A.T. tests or the door cause I haven't been to the website in over a year...Can someone help?

christiangirl · #13 06-07-2007, 01:18 AM

Someone told me today that Books 6 and 7 will be combined into 1 movie, to make only 6 total. Has anyone else heard this?

Drolefille · #14 06-07-2007, 04:55 AM

I haven't and I can't imagine they'd do that. They'd "lose" too much money doing it like that.

christiangirl · #15 06-07-2007, 06:37 AM

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I haven't and I can't imagine they'd do that. They'd "lose" too much money doing it like that.

Yeah, that's what I said. But he claimed that they had to because the kids were getting too old to do 2 more movies, so they were making 1. Now that I think about it, there was a huge fuss over Emma signing on to do the last TWO, not one. Never mind.