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  #601  
Old 10-01-2015, 09:41 AM
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As someone who transferred mid year and did COB I'd probably have been terrified by the chanting, matching outfits, five minute convos of formal rush. That could be a great way of finding quality members who didn't sign up in time for formal. I'm the first in my family to go to college much less join a Greek org so for us 'virgins' to all of that, it could be weird. I was very involved in my first (two year) college and transferred to a uni with around 25,000 students (it's since gotten bigger) and didn't realize how hard it would be to get plugged in. I worked in the student union and dealt with a lot of the Greeks and decided joining would be a good way to meet people. I can't believe I'm the only one of my species.

PS: My first college is now a 4 year school with Greek life.
It's really, really, really exhausting to do FR, come up short, and then have to COB, while at the same time trying to retain everyone from FR, many of whom are unhappy with their bid. If you are missing quota by 10-20%, you suck it up and hope HQ sends help, but if you are missing quota by 50% or more? No way it makes sense to do both.

IME, for a WRC, COB women are much easier to retain, too.
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Old 10-01-2015, 11:45 AM
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These are the numbers I have:
UCLA:
Alpha Gamma Delta - 67
Alpha Chi Omega - 77
Alpha Delta Pi - 67
Alpha Phi - 60
Chi Omega - 69
Delta Gamma - 66
Delta Delta Delta - 17
Gamma Phi Beta - 65
Kappa Alpha Theta - 65
Kappa Delta - 66
Kappa Kappa Gamma - 80
Pi Beta Phi - 76
Correction on KKG -- 64, not 80 (per Greek Life office)
all others are accurrate
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Old 10-01-2015, 12:31 PM
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Is it possible to have another close Tri Delta chapter -- like * USC, LMU, CSLB or UCSB -- to assist with Recruitment? None have fall recruitment at the same time. (I believe that both CSLB and UCSB "borrow" UCLA's Tri Delta chapter house once a year -- like, during UCLA's Spring Break or during the summer -- for member retreats.)
* Univ. abbreviations: USC = Univ. of Southern California, LMU= Loyola Marymount Univ., CSLB = Cal State Long Beach, UCSB = Univ. of California Santa Barbara.

Roughly 2005-ish, a chapter at my university (Tulsa Univ.) was struggling and a dozen or so members from their strong Oklahoma State chapter helped out during 2 conversational rounds (Open House & Entertainment). The chapter got quota+ that year and hasn't struggled since.
That was a popular solution ten years ago, but I think sorority leaders have caught on to the fact that it's usually a stop-gap measure at best and actively harmful at worst. (Like 33girl said, it doesn't stop tent talk, only increases it, and PNMs may feel like they're being tricked or assume that every girl they talked to that they liked was from another chapter, even if that's not the case.) I have actually never heard of a scenario where it created real, long-term change until your post, haha.

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At that point, I think more groups should seriously consider opting out of formal recruitment and saving their energy and resources for COB.
This might be a good solution at this point, but I'm guessing that would involve letting go of the house, which Tri Delta is probably trying to avoid if they can. Although that may not be avoidable at this point, regardless.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:43 PM
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That was a popular solution ten years ago, but I think sorority leaders have caught on to the fact that it's usually a stop-gap measure at best and actively harmful at worst. (Like 33girl said, it doesn't stop tent talk, only increases it, and PNMs may feel like they're being tricked or assume that every girl they talked to that they liked was from another chapter, even if that's not the case.) I have actually never heard of a scenario where it created real, long-term change until your post, haha.
I agree. We had a chapter on my campus years that had brought in members from their stronger chapters at FSU and UF to help them recruit. Even if a PNM ended up liking this chapter, they didn't want to join knowing that many of the members who were there would ultimately go home to their chapters in Tallahassee or Gainesville the next day. Plus, the tent talk was unrelenting and dug this chapter deeper into a hole that they never got themselves out of. The chapter did reorganize, but they still were unable to overcome their past stigma and eventually folded.
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:13 PM
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I've seen it work amazingly well, but only at schools where greek life is not a significant percentage of the student body, and where the chapters were already close enough in proximity to continue the relationships following recruitment. I don't know what today's solution would be :-\
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:00 PM
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Correction on KKG -- 64, not 80 (per Greek Life office)
all others are accurrate
Ah! I see where I got confused. That does make much more sense, too!

On the note about TriDelta - they were a solid middle chapter when I graduated in 2005. Something happened circa 2006-2008 that changed that, but I don't know what that was. One of my pledge sisters thinks it's the location of their house, which is quite a bit farther down sorority row from the rest of the chapters. I agree that the culture at UCLA isn't always conducive to helping the smaller/weaker chapters out. It's not a campus where you need to be Greek, and a lot of women sign up at the last minute. I think that breeds lots of women dropping out of recruitment among those who don't get invited back to the houses they want.

At any rate, they've been smaller for a number of years, but not quite this dramatically so.
2014: Quota 53, TriDelta 36
2013: Quota 67, TriDelta 42
2012: Quota 50, TriDelta 50 (I believe they didn't match freshman quota, but made up for it with extra upperclassmen)
2011: Quota 54, TriDelta 45
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Old 10-01-2015, 08:20 PM
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University of Manitoba
Total: 26
Quota: 7
Alpha Gamma Delta: 8 (Now 29)
Alpha Phi: 7 (Now 21)
Alpha Delta Pi: 8 (Now 28)
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:41 PM
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University of Vermont:
Delta Delta Delta 36
Pi Beta Phi 37
Alpha Chi Omega 30
Kappa Alpha Theta 26?
Kappa Delta 35

University of Ottawa:
Alpha Phi 26

North Dakota State University:
Kappa Delta 45
Kappa Alpha Theta 44
Alpha Gamma Delta 45

Marietta College:
Chi Omega 9
Alpha Xi Delta 9

University of Cincinnati:
Kappa Kappa Gamma 54
Kappa Alpha Theta 55
Kappa Delta 57

Wright State:
Alpha Xi Delta 16?
Kappa Delta 20
Zeta Tau Alpha 18
Delta Zeta 17?
Alpha Omicron Pi 18?

Youngstown State:
Zeta Tau Alpha 9
Alpha Xi Delta 9

Indiana University of Pennsylvania:
Alpha Xi Delta 10
Delta Phi Epsilon 10
Alpha Sigma Alpha 5
Sigma Sigma Sigma 8

Bishop's University:
Alpha Phi 5

McGill University:
Kappa Alpha Theta 28

Caldwell College:
Delta Phi Epsilon 8

University of North Carolina- Pembroke:
Sigma Sigma Sigma 16
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Old 10-02-2015, 09:14 AM
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George Mason
XO 42
AOII 39?
ZTA 46
APhi 38
AXiD 35

Ripon (WI)
KD 3

University of British Columbia
APhi 34
KKG 37
AGD 33
ADPi 34
KAT 39

University of Guelph
Pi Phi 8

Cal Poly
SK 99
GPhiB 99
APhi 98
AXO 98
KKG 97
AOII 97
KAT 97
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:55 PM
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:13 PM
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University of South Alabama:
Phi Mu 7 (I believe this is a COB number, I'm not sure of the number from Fall bid day yet)

California State University- Bakersfield:
Gamma Phi Beta 22 (correction from previous number)

California State University- Fresno:
Delta Zeta 32

University of California- Irvine:
Quota 48
Gamma Phi Beta 57

University of California- Santa Barbara:
Kappa Alpha Theta 55
Alpha Phi 59

Colorado State University:
Gamma Phi Beta 71
Pi Beta Phi 69?
Chi Omega 68

Western Connecticut State:
Sigma Delta Tau 9

Columbus State:
Delta Zeta 24?

College of Idaho:
Kappa Kappa Gamma 9
Kappa Alpha Theta 9

Franklin College:
Pi Beta Phi 22
Zeta Tau Alpha 23

Rose-Hulman:
Chi Omega 16

University of Southern Indiana:
Alpha Sigma Alpha 34?
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Old 10-03-2015, 01:40 PM
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Oregon State
AOII 38
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Old 10-03-2015, 11:08 PM
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Bid Day Numbers

Correction....

University of South Carolina Tri Delta

117 from official report

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Franklin College

26 from website
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:50 AM
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Oregon State
KAT 42
DDD 36?
AGD 47
XO 42
KD 44?

Cal - Berkeley
SK 38

St. Cloud State
TPA 12
DZ 16
DPhiE 12

Lawrence Tech
DPhiE 11

Northwood
DZ 11
AXO 8

Oakland
ADPi 34
PSS 31
GPhiB 35
AST 25

Wayne State
AGD 21

Loras (IA)
ASA 12

James Madison
ASA 72
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Old 10-04-2015, 11:45 AM
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Drexel university
DPhiE 35
ASA 38

Quota was 35 and I'm positive all made quota. DG starts recruitment in 2 weeks.
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