Home Schooling Declared Illegal in CA! - Page 4

GeekyPenguin · #46 03-20-2008, 10:58 AM

I think home schooling is one of those thing it is really hard to make a blanket statement about. I've gone to school with kids who were home schooled for part of their education and adjusted really well into "normal" school life, but those kids were also the ones whose parents made sure their kids played on local sports teams, joined scout troops, and actually taught them a "standard" curriculum. I've also gone to school with kids who were home schooled and were completely socially inept and a little too busy learning the Bible and not learning how to you know, do math or science or have a normal conversation.

My boyfriend has this relative who was home schooled on the farm by parents who only had a high school education - he then went to a correspondence college and correspondence law school. He now is a farmer with more student loan debt than I have. I'm not sure what the point of that was.

ForeverRoses · #47 03-20-2008, 11:35 AM

[QUOTE=GeekyPenguin;1621005]I think home schooling is one of those thing it is really hard to make a blanket statement about. I've gone to school with kids who were home schooled for part of their education and adjusted really well into "normal" school life, but those kids were also the ones whose parents made sure their kids played on local sports teams, joined scout troops, and actually taught them a "standard" curriculum. I've also gone to school with kids who were home schooled and were completely socially inept and a little too busy learning the Bible and not learning how to you know, do math or science or have a normal conversation.

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I think you hit the nail on the head-- it all depends on how the child is taught. Do I think the Duggar children that are home schooled are getting the same level of education as SWTXBelle's kids? No. But those differences could be there with schools as well.

honeychile · #48 03-20-2008, 11:36 AM

You said it better than I - it really should be looked at on a case-to-case basis. These kids were encouraged to be in EVERYTHING so that they would be well socialized, same with some of the other homeschoolers I know. Only one of their parents went to college, but they both did take the home schooling classes.

I'm truthfully not sure that I would homeschool - but I would fight as hard as I could for the right to do so.

Munchkin03 · #49 03-20-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

My boyfriend has this relative who was home schooled on the farm by parents who only had a high school education - he then went to a correspondence college and correspondence law school. He now is a farmer with more student loan debt than I have. I'm not sure what the point of that was.

CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL?!

GeekyPenguin · #50 03-20-2008, 11:46 AM

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CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL?!

For real. We were kind of fascinated by it. Neither of us went to superhoity schools, but at least they're freaking ABA accredited. He was in school the same time as the Conservinator and apparently they had some amusing conversations over school breaks about how Wisconsin was teaching the Conservinator false laws.

The CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL (which should probably always be capitalized) is CA-accredited so the dude could move to CA and try and take that bar, but he doesn't want to leave the family farm.

Munchkin03 · #51 03-20-2008, 11:49 AM

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The CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL (which should probably always be capitalized) is CA-accredited so the dude could move to CA and try and take that bar, but he doesn't want to leave the family farm.

It's People's College of Law--by mail!

honeychile · #52 03-20-2008, 12:05 PM

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It's People's College of Law--by mail!

It boggles the mind - how would a graduate question a witness, by mail?

shinerbock · #53 03-20-2008, 12:22 PM

The number of law schools in this country literally needs to be cut in half.

For example:

American Justice School of Law? Seriously? And students were shocked when it took a dive? IT'S CALLED AMERICAN JUSTICE SCHOOL OF LAW.

Xylochick216 · #54 03-20-2008, 12:44 PM

I think there need to be requirements in place for the level of education, etc. for homeschoolers. I know several, and work with several. Some have wonderful educations and probably learn much more than they would in a classroom. Some do whatever the heck they want and are completely socially unprepared. I do some work with some students through a home educators association, and they are very proactive. The students socialize, play sports, etc. Creating a standard of educator for students isn't a bad idea, in my opinion. We want our public school teachers to pass certain qualifications. Shouldn't home school parents do the same to provide a good education? It's in the best interest of the child.

Kevin · #55 03-20-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

For real. We were kind of fascinated by it. Neither of us went to superhoity schools, but at least they're freaking ABA accredited. He was in school the same time as the Conservinator and apparently they had some amusing conversations over school breaks about how Wisconsin was teaching the Conservinator false laws.

The CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL (which should probably always be capitalized) is CA-accredited so the dude could move to CA and try and take that bar, but he doesn't want to leave the family farm.

CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL?

University of Phoenix School of Law -- it's only a matter of time.

bejazd · #56 03-20-2008, 01:13 PM

^^^I thought they already had that..

I was actually thinking when I heard about this ruling a few weeks ago that National Univ etc would start offering a speedy quick way to get a "home school" teaching credential.

Thetagirl218 · #57 03-20-2008, 02:39 PM

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I think there need to be requirements in place for the level of education, etc. for homeschoolers. I know several, and work with several. Some have wonderful educations and probably learn much more than they would in a classroom. Some do whatever the heck they want and are completely socially unprepared. I do some work with some students through a home educators association, and they are very proactive. The students socialize, play sports, etc. Creating a standard of educator for students isn't a bad idea, in my opinion. We want our public school teachers to pass certain qualifications. Shouldn't home school parents do the same to provide a good education? It's in the best interest of the child.

You raise a very valid point. As one who has been homeschooled, and who now is a teacher, I see the need for recruitments.

While I am not versed the education codes of many states, I do know Florida's. In the State of Florida, each child must be registered with the local homeschooling office through the local school board to prevent truancy problems. Each student registered with this office must by the end of the school year complete a benchmark testing that shows that they have learned material and are able to progress to the next grade. This can be in the form of the state test, the F-CAT, or through other standardized testing recognized by the state, or testing done by a private, state certified tutor/tester.

I do know that when I was being homeschooled in the 90s, the state education code for home schooling was actually stricter than the public school code. Of course this was before the days of Jeb Bush, F-CAT hell, and No Child Left Behind.

Munchkin03 · #58 03-20-2008, 02:43 PM

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CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL?

University of Phoenix School of Law -- it's only a matter of time.

UP scares me. A few people I know have gotten MBAs from there, and maybe I'm just a snob, but I'd rather pay $35K more and get it from a real school where I see my classmates. Just saying.

ZTAMich · #59 03-20-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

The CORRESPONDENCE LAW SCHOOL (which should probably always be capitalized) is CA-accredited so the dude could move to CA and try and take that bar, but he doesn't want to leave the family farm.

Correspondence Law School??? I thought trolls only made that kind of stuff up here on GC?

I KNOW there was drama here at least once over someone who was corresponding. Or said she was. Or had gone to 3 different law schools. And held a FT job. Something like that...

UGAalum94 · #60 03-20-2008, 05:13 PM

My experience is that kids who enter high school after being home-schooled do well with adults and with kids. (as well or better socially as they would probably have done had they attended public schools; well ahead academically and intellectually.)

I think that being home-schooled through middle school might be one of the best things that could happen to a girl, especially. The socialization that goes on 6-9th is pretty subhuman really, despite middle school teachers' best efforts.

I'm not being critical of parents who send their kids to schools, of course, but a lot of what people believe about home schooled kids has not in any way been reflected in my experience.

Now, kids whose parents pull them out during high school after the kids get in trouble and who then say they being "home schooled" are a totally different and dysfuctional group.