Kappa Gamma at SCSU

[lauralaylin]

I wasn't trying to imply that it was okay, just giving the little background info I knew. Strangely enough, my chapter was a local before becoming Alpha Phi at URI. They were Kappa Delta Theta. I wonder which group they wanted to go with? haha Two groups only presented, and either was Kappa Alpha Theta. Granted, the local had their own symbols etc, but still a little weird. Maybe it's just a URI thing. I joined after we became a colony, so I don't know too much about what the founders were thinking.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by lauralaylin

I wasn't trying to imply that it was okay, just giving the little background info I knew. Strangely enough, my chapter was a local before becoming Alpha Phi at URI. They were Kappa Delta Theta. I wonder which group they wanted to go with? haha Two groups only presented, and either was Kappa Alpha Theta. Granted, the local had their own symbols etc, but still a little weird. Maybe it's just a URI thing. I joined after we became a colony, so I don't know too much about what the founders were thinking.

If they didn't rip off every symbol of Kappa Alpha Theta, maybe that's not what they were thinking (that they wanted to be KATs).

I know you said you joined after the group became a colony so you wouldn't know for sure, but really, there are only so many greek letter combinations.

There was a local interest group on my first campus whose name was Delta Lambda. They had their own colors/mascot/symbols etc, and none of them were even remotely close to Delta Gamma. Someone might say "They are DG posers because their name is two greek letters and the first one is Delta!!!" but really, they picked letters that worked for them, and their own symbols and they did have interest in joining an NPC, but they didn't single out one...they waited for the campus to open up for expansion and looked at the three that presented.

It's one thing if the names are sort of similar minus one letter but they have their own symbols/mascot/etc; but quite another when the letters are extremely close, and the colors are the same, the mascot & symbols and even philanthropies are the same.

[33girl]

Yup, I agree. There are only so many Greek letters. I assumed Alpha Sigma at UW-W was the remnants of our chapter that was once there (their colors were the same as ours) until I was informed that it was a local that had actually been around LONGER than ASA had.

And then there was the group of (extremely white) guys in the 1950 Clarion yearbook who founded a local fraternity called Alpha Phi Alpha.

[cuteASAbug]

There's a local at Brooklyn College called Alpha Sigma that wanted to become a chapter of Alpha Sigma Tau so they used the same colors, etc. as AST. AST did not want to colonize them.

[lauralaylin]

The older collegiate sisters who were in KDT said that the local got chose their letters after seeing Theta's on a house in Boston or somewhere like that, but they remembered wrong. I think they really liked Theta but knew a bit more about how expansion worked and understood they had to make a group that fit them.

[Buttonz]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

There's a local at Brooklyn College called Alpha Sigma that wanted to become a chapter of Alpha Sigma Tau so they used the same colors, etc. as AST. AST did not want to colonize them.

Yup. And because of this they have said they will never go national and talk bad about all nationals.

[fantASTic]

Hey, what can we say? We don't like posers.

[lilzetakitten]

ZETA... wow. I'm not sure if I should be flattered... or terrified.

[Denise_DPhiE]

Sounds trite but imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so I can see how a group would want to embody the colors etc to impress an NPC group. But as someone said, some groups will not consider some types of campuses - we have stellar women come of our SCSU but some NPCs are focusing on larger schools with other benefits/alum connections etc.

I think scsugirl should meet the dphie girls and see they are the real deal and don't haze - give up some starbucks and use your birthday $ for dues. You will not be sorry. A couple of dollars now translates into a lifetime of friends - friends who will not haze you today and call you friend tomorrow.

Good luck.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by Denise_DPhiE

Sounds trite but imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so I can see how a group would want to embody the colors etc to impress an NPC group. But as someone said, some groups will not consider some types of campuses - we have stellar women come of our SCSU but some NPCs are focusing on larger schools with other benefits/alum connections etc.

To set the record straight on this group... These "Kappa Gamma" girls had not contacted KKG's HQ about possible affiliation and were denied because the campus was not of a certain prestige. And most likely, the fact that they adopted all of the symbols and colors of KKG without any intent in pursuing affiliation is probably the major strike against them if they ever tried to pursue affiliation in the future. Imitation is not impressive when the imitation is verging close to fraud in trying to purport an affiliation that isn't there. The fact that these members thought that type of pretend affiliation was okay says more about their deficient character than anything.

I can't imagine an NPC group being flattered by a copy-cat group under these circumstances. It is one thing if you have contacted that NPC and are in the process of getting a charter (and using the NPC's colors openly and with the NPC group's knowledge). It is another thing to take all the symbols and colors without having first made any attempt to affiliate. To me, it shows ignorance and a lack of respect for what those symbols and colors might mean to the hundreds of thousands of initiated women that call themselves members of the national group.

Being a Kappa is a lot more than throwing a key on a blouse... I'd think that any woman pursuing the establishment of a colony would be wise to be sensitive to that before adopting symbols, colors and letters that have a specific meaning to many women throughout this country and others.

[twinkle555]

Yep, I just found that there is a Kappa Gamma Fraternity...as in for men..at Gallaudet University. It is a fraternity for deaf men and it looks like their colors are blue and gold. They were established in 1901. Here is the link: http://www.kappagamma.com/

[Thetagirl218]

Originally Posted by scsugirl

So i did some more research on Kappa Gamma and was told that they were originally founded by a transfer student who had been a member of KKG at the school she came from but was kicked out (nor sure if she was kicked out of school or KKG or both) but when she got to southern she started Kappa Gamma.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I read this thread! Who else would know enough of Kappa Kappa Gamma's symbols, colors, badge, etc, to copy them unless that had previously been a member?

As for the OP, please do not let your image of Greek Life get tainted by two local GLOs that you have in your own words described as not so reputable organizations. As some other posters have said, other (inter)national sororities such as those affiliated with NPC and NPHC offer a lifetime of membership!

[KGSCSU]

Ok...so this is getting WAY out of hand. I am a member of Kappa Gamma Sorority at SCSU, and I simply cannot believe that this matter is still being discussed here. Are we serious, ladies? Don't you "real" Kappas and Zetas and Deephers have something better to be doing (such as sticking to the morals you preach, like philanthropy & community service) than sitting on your computers and researching a small state school like Southern and its Greek Life?! Really now.

To set the record straight, we were NOT founded by a transfer student. A legitamate KKG who went to UConn happened to be best friends with an SCSU student who wanted to start an organization. So the material that we had (yes, past tense) came from a creeper of a KKG, not a theiving KG. We never approached KKG to affiliate because we had no interest. We have our local pride, and weren't interested in being a NPC group. We've since changed our badge and symbols, so we have no connection whatsoever with KKG.

And the poster SCSUgirl who got ya'll so riled up is full of shit. She wasn't trying to rush us. We aren't even HAVING A RUSH this spring. My guess would be that she's already part of an organization at SCSU and is trying to slander us. It's okay to be jealous, honey, but this is a bit much

Any further questions as to the legitamacy of our organization can be directed to our President at kappagamma1213@yahoo.com

[SWTXBelle]

Oh, judging by the tone of your post obviously everyone here is waaaayyyy off the mark. You do a fine job of representing your little ol group. It may be that the wrong impression has been given to the community at large about your group given their early thieving (i before e except after c) of the symbols, colours and even name of Kappa Kappa Gamma. If some 7 or 8 years later you have changed, well, about time.

And yes, the REAL sorority women here ( both local and NPC) have lots to do - including calling a spade a spade, and a copycat org a copycat org. Are you still calling yourself Kappa Gamma, or Kappas? 'Nuff said.

eta - and if you had let this sleeping dog lie, the thread would probably have died.

[SoCalGirl]

Plus the OP said she was considering greek life, not rushing.