NPHC Traditions and Practices that annoy you

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by titan257

I am not greek but I have tons of greek friends. One thing that bothers me is strolling at a non-greek party. Its like how do you expect "townies" to not break the stroll line if they dont know what the h e double hockey sticks you're doing. Then they start fighting.....its just stupid to me.

I agree and even if they know what you're doing, should they always care? I don't even care most of the time and I've broken many a stroll.

The worst is years ago when I went to NPHC parties in areas with Bloods and Crips. The Bloods and Crips looked like Sigmas and Kappas. They did handsigns, "strolls," and so forth. Many fights began because people confused NPHCers with gang members or locals, etc.

[TotallyWicked]

^^^Along with that what's with folks strolling smack dab in the center of the dance floor disturbing folks' dancing area...if the dance floor is full just go around the people, I hate dancing and getting pushed out the way or have my toes stepped on, and people wonder how fights start.

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I agree and even if they know what you're doing, should they always care? I don't even care most of the time and I've broken many a stroll.

The worst is years ago when I went to NPHC parties in areas with Bloods and Crips. The Bloods and Crips looked like Sigmas and Kappas. They did handsigns, "strolls," and so forth. Many fights began because people confused NPHCers with gang members or locals, etc.

Wow!!!

[mulattogyrl]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

The worst is years ago when I went to NPHC parties in areas with Bloods and Crips. The Bloods and Crips looked like Sigmas and Kappas. They did handsigns, "strolls," and so forth. Many fights began because people confused NPHCers with gang members or locals, etc.

CTHU @ the gangs looking like fraternities. You're right though - if you don't know what you're looking at, you might get it confused.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I agree and even if they know what you're doing, should they always care? I don't even care most of the time and I've broken many a stroll.

The worst is years ago when I went to NPHC parties in areas with Bloods and Crips. The Bloods and Crips looked like Sigmas and Kappas. They did handsigns, "strolls," and so forth. Many fights began because people confused NPHCers with gang members or locals, etc.

This is messed up but it's not our problem. This is the very reason that some non-greeks associate our traditions with that of gangs but we shouldn't stop doing what we do because of them. Since the beginning, many clubs and organizations (greek and otherwise) have had handsigns, colors, and other traditions that these gangs are now copying.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This is messed up but it's not our problem. This is the very reason that some non-greeks associate our traditions with that of gangs but we shouldn't stop doing what we do because of them. Since the beginning, many clubs and organizations (greek and otherwise) have had handsigns, colors, and other traditions that these gangs are now copying.

Um, BGLO hand signs are relatively new (compared to our beginnings--there were no handsigns (or calls) when I was initiated) In fact it would be a safe bet to say that gangs had them first.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Um, BGLO hand signs are relatively new (compared to our beginnings--there were no handsigns (or calls) when I was initiated) In fact it would be a safe bet to say that gangs had them first.

I'm not talking about BGLO's but rather American clubs/teams/organizations in general since the beginning of the fraternal movement. The bottom line is that the dynamics that go along with forming organizations and creating unity among members can be found in any organization, negative or positive. Even the KKK is a fraternity that shares similarities with other (more positive) fraternal organizations.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This is messed up but it's not our problem. This is the very reason that some non-greeks associate our traditions with that of gangs but we shouldn't stop doing what we do because of them. Since the beginning, many clubs and organizations (greek and otherwise) have had handsigns, colors, and other traditions that these gangs are now copying.

It's actually everyone's problem.

You have to be familiar with every setting that you're in. I've seen locals and gang members fight BGLO members over strolls and other things. I know of BGLO members who have gotten shot because they were confused for someone else. It's not worth fighting or being killed over--wasn't worth it when I was an undergrad and certainly isn't worth it now. If the Bloods and Crips or other nonBGLOers have their thing, the BGLO members need to be aware of it and get out the way if necessary.


If BGLO members care so much to make a change somewhere, they should get involved with gang-oriented or other community service starting the following Monday.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

It's actually everyone's problem.

You have to be familiar with every setting that you're in. I've seen locals and gang members fight BGLO members over strolls and other things. I know of BGLO members who have gotten shot because they were confused for someone else. It's not worth fighting or being killed over--wasn't worth it when I was an undergrad and certainly isn't worth it now. If the Bloods and Crips or other nonBGLOers have their thing, the BGLO members need to be aware of it and get out the way if necessary.

If BGLO members care so much to make a change somewhere, they should get involved with gang-oriented or other community service starting the following Monday.

Okay, but according to your previous post, you were at an NPHC party. So are BGLO members not supposed to wear their colors and stroll at their own parties because of gang members that might be there? What members in gang infested areas should be examining is ways to make sure that gang members don't enter our parties. Having gang members at an NPHC party is not a good look and is a huge liability in regards to the safety of party goers.

[Still BLUTANG]

off topic...
i've never seen bloods or crips stroll - but then again i dont think i've ever KNOWN that i was around them (but i have been). wow!!!!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Still BLUTANG

off topic...
i've never seen bloods or crips stroll - but then again i dont think i've ever KNOWN that i was around them (but i have been). wow!!!!

I'm sure they wouldn't call it a "stroll" or maybe they would.

I assume the Crips were Crip walking in a straight line. But they were throwing their hand sign up and wearing blue. I didn't know they were Crips until there was gang warfare outside of the party later on.

[DSTCHAOS]

TotallyWicked, thanks for sharing that info because there are times when experiencing something firsthand really drives the point home so lessons are learned.

I wouldn't have taken it so seriously if I hadn't seen it myself. Granted, I didn't live in or frequent gang infested neighborhoods. But, instead I know ex-gang members who are now in BGLOs and I've encountered gang tensions from locals at parties as previously mentioned.

[DSTCHAOS]

Is it my fault that this thread has taken the turn that it has taken?

I was just watching "Gangland" on The History Channel. They showed the gangs of New York with their handsigns and colors. I thought to myself "they look like BGLO members. There go some Iotas, Krappas, and Sigmas....."

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Is it my fault that this thread has taken the turn that it has taken?

Yep

[Senusret I]

I blame the Masons.

No, really.