UCF Sig Ep suspended

[fifi225]

I was on campus last night and saw both houses all lit up with tons of people! It was kinda strange. My little told me about the movie. Sounds interesting.

[TPASIGEP]

I just read in The Journal (our National magazine) that a sorority is moving into our UCF chapter house. Anyone know who?

[TrueBlueKappa]

According to the last email I received, UCF is exercising their rights to purchase both the Sig Ep and SAE houses, so no one will be moving in any time soon.

[FSUZeta]

what a shame. i was hoping one of the unhoused sororities would get a chance to have a house.

[TPASIGEP]

I'm not sure if it's just our National's 'spin', but the article mentioned that they were able to maintain the house for our 'eventual return to campus' and that it was going to be leased to a sorority.

I just got my copy this week. Maybe things have changed.

[Faith4Keep]

Well, I've been talking a lot to the UCF Vice-Presidents (especially the one dealing with legal matters), and although it's not being said officially, they are going to try to turn Greek Row into Sorority Row of sorts. There are 3 empty houses and 4 sororities without houses (Kappa Alpha Theta, Chi Omega, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Alpha Epsilon Phi). There are also 2 fraternities (Kappa Sigma and Alpha Tau Omega) as well as 1 suspended fraternity (Sigma Chi) that live on the street, so I'm not totally sure how or why they would oust them to make it "Sorority Row". I think that UCF feels more comfortable leasing out the houses to sororities than fraternities, as sororities haven't caused the same sort of havoc as the frats have on our campus.

I *reallllllllllly* hope it's us though!! It is very difficult being an off-campus sorority, since a majority of sororities are on on-campus. I'm sure some of the peple on this board understand!

Apparently there was a meeting on Wednesday about the houses for recruitment (since SAE was kicked off and that's where we typically do recruitment, we are kinda SOL since the other 3 unhoused sororities usually do recruitment in fraternity houses that are still active) so that might shed some light on the whole leasing issue. I'll contact my recruitment chair and see what happened.

[SWTXBelle]

I have a question for you fraternity alumni - how involved are advisors with the chapters? It always seemed to me that one reason fraternities got into more trouble was that they had few advisors, and less supervision.
I was a witness to the debacle at Texas State when Sigma Chi was kicked out - and I mean kicked out. The University VP who had originally sponsored the local swore they would never be back. I know that some stupid stuff happened because there wasn't an alum to tell them "no". Is that common? How many advisors does a chapter usually have? Do they just attend meetings and rush, or are they more "hands on"?

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I have a question for you fraternity alumni - how involved are advisors with the chapters? It always seemed to me that one reason fraternities got into more trouble was that they had few advisors, and less supervision.
I was a witness to the debacle at Texas State when Sigma Chi was kicked out - and I mean kicked out. The University VP who had originally sponsored the local swore they would never be back. I know that some stupid stuff happened because there wasn't an alum to tell them "no". Is that common? How many advisors does a chapter usually have? Do they just attend meetings and rush, or are they more "hands on"?

Great point and usualy Chapters have one designated Adviser. LXA Advisers are requried to get training and is paid for by the IHQ if any travel is needed.

If a Chapter does not ahve one, they need one to help supervise them.

When things get out of hand, they need a figure to help 'Advise" them when the screw up! Most do not enough sense to pour water out of a boot!

[FSUZeta]

faith,

please keep us updated. i have long thought that ucf should have solved whatever environmental problem(gopher tortoise?) that was prohibiting the unhoused greeks building on the land set aside for their housing. hopefully leasing the empty fraternity houses will work out.

[Faith4Keep]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

i have long thought that ucf should have solved whatever environmental problem(gopher tortoise?)

Ahh yes, the gopher tortoises! At a recent retreat I went to Bill Merck, VP who (I can't remember the exact title but) takes care of all the buildings on our campus and future endeavors, told us that all the gopher-tortoises had been moved to the north side of campus. They have some sort of disease (I really can't remember, asthma, bronchitis, something) and we simply can't move them. That is the area that is near Lake Claire (across the street from the current Greek area).

The new Greek area would hopefully be across from Academic Village. It stinks that the two Greek areas would not be nearby but hey, at least they will be there!! But with all the drama on our campus currently, the administration is in NO WAY excited to build another Greek housing community. I mean, not a chance (at least for a few years!!). All we can hope for now is that some of the unhoused chapters on our campus, whether they are fraternities or sororities, will get a chance at the houses that sit empty on greek row.

I will keep you updated!

[adpiucf]

I speak for so many when I say...

I hate those freaking turtles.

[ZTAngel]

Sigma Chi is suspended too? So, UCF has lost SAE, Pike, Sig Ep and Pi Kapp in the last 2 years and now Sigma Chi is suspended. If the fraternities keep this up, all the sororities will be housed because there won't be any fraternities left!

Has hazing gotten worse over the years at UCF or are the campus police just cracking down on it more?

I was in Orlando a couple of weeks ago and my friends and me drove down Greek Row. It was sad to see the Sig Ep, Pike and SAE house all boarded up and vacant. Although, not to sound too mean , the Pike house could use a good fire. I don't know if they'll ever get it up to code after what those guys did to it.

ETA:
I always thought the whole turtle thing was just a rumor.

[TrueBlueKappa]

Originally Posted by ZTAngel

Sigma Chi is suspended too? So, UCF has lost SAE, Pike, Sig Ep and Pi Kapp in the last 2 years and now Sigma Chi is suspended. If the fraternities keep this up, all the sororities will be housed because there won't be any fraternities left!

According to the 4/18/07 announcements from the Greek Life Office, Sigma Chi was on probation until the end of Spring semester.

Originally Posted by ZTAngel

Has hazing gotten worse over the years at UCF or are the campus police just cracking down on it more?

I’m not there anymore, but I am assuming that after all the press coverage of the SAE incident, there must have been a major crackdown.

Originally Posted by ZTAngel

I was in Orlando a couple of weeks ago and my friends and me drove down Greek Row. It was sad to see the Sig Ep, Pike and SAE house all boarded up and vacant. Although, not sound too mean , the Pike house could use a good fire. I don't know if they'll ever get it up to code after what those guys did to it.

Last month, I was in Orlando as well, so I drove down Greek Row. I was SHOCKED. I’ve only been gone for 2 years. It was so sad to see the empty houses. I noticed that the Pike house still had random paint splotches on it from that Amanda Bynes movie they filmed there (how they could used that house as a movie set, I’ll never know!)

And adpiucf, I completely agree with your gopher tortoise sentiments!I hate those freaking things!

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by Faith4Keep

Well, I've been talking a lot to the UCF Vice-Presidents (especially the one dealing with legal matters), and although it's not being said officially, they are going to try to turn Greek Row into Sorority Row of sorts. There are 3 empty houses and 4 sororities without houses (Kappa Alpha Theta, Chi Omega, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Alpha Epsilon Phi). There are also 2 fraternities (Kappa Sigma and Alpha Tau Omega) as well as 1 suspended fraternity (Sigma Chi) that live on the street, so I'm not totally sure how or why they would oust them to make it "Sorority Row". I think that UCF feels more comfortable leasing out the houses to sororities than fraternities, as sororities haven't caused the same sort of havoc as the frats have on our campus.

I *reallllllllllly* hope it's us though!! It is very difficult being an off-campus sorority, since a majority of sororities are on on-campus. I'm sure some of the peple on this board understand!

Apparently there was a meeting on Wednesday about the houses for recruitment (since SAE was kicked off and that's where we typically do recruitment, we are kinda SOL since the other 3 unhoused sororities usually do recruitment in fraternity houses that are still active) so that might shed some light on the whole leasing issue. I'll contact my recruitment chair and see what happened.

Hate to get into semantics: Suspended and probation are two different issues. Sigma Chi was on probation for the semester, not under suspension.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

Hate to get into semantics: Suspended and probation are two different issues. Sigma Chi was on probation for the semester, not under suspension.

Thank you Brother. I was going to say the same thing.