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12-03-2006, 11:35 AM
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Infringement
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Originally Posted by Albert109
http://www.myspace.com/aloftinthesundry
I didn't know if anyone had posted about this "band" and didn't want to start a redundant thread. If you look at their logo, it's a copy of our Coat of Arms except for the latin open mottos. One of our members had a brief email convs with the band and they completely denied it (no surprise).
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Received from Brother Bohn via PM.
Thought it might be of interest. In another PM, he informed me that the GHZ has been notified.
Flattery is a form of honor?
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12-03-2006, 11:44 AM
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Well, I listened to their music. If a band going to rip off our coat of arms, I would hope that they would at least be good!
These guys SUCK.
Now, if B.B. King, Led Zep, Aerosmith, etc. ever wanted to use our coat of arms, I'd be all for it.
But this whiny emo, poor teenage angst I don't have any friends except for myspace and I like to cut myself to pretend I am hardcore, I will shop at Hot Topic like everyone else and look like everyone else just to be different sh!t, well that's NOT cool to use our coat of arms.
Just my 2 pennies.
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12-03-2006, 11:49 AM
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I also wanted to add...
Seems like their "fan" base would be generalized as a group of people who...probably wouldn't be accepting of fraternity brothers or sorority sisters. You know the type that cries frats suck, be individual, don't buy your friends, etc.
Imagine how funny it would be if you saw them wearing the bands shirt with the ripped off CoA walking down the street and you alerted them to the fact that what they are wearing is a piece of LXA fraternity?
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12-03-2006, 12:53 PM
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I am sure that after a "nice" letter from the attorneys that represent LCA, this stolen logo of theirs will be taken down quickly.....
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12-03-2006, 04:29 PM
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yes, i had a short conversation with the band yesterday. i would post the conversation but i received too many four letter words to bleep, calling our fraternity a handful of lovely phrases. *pm me if you really want to see it* in short, they deny it is our coat of arms and by marketing our copyrighted material attempt to make a profit by using it for advertising and on their merchandise. they are self serving opportunists and i simply have no use for them. it is my understanding that a member from Sigma-Epsilon Zeta, has already opened discussion with the Grand High Alpha regarding this perversion.
i suggest forgetting this small time band for now and stop visiting their page for, as pointed out by their spokesperson, they "love the additional page views" from us 'frat dweebs.'
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Last edited by CPickering; 12-03-2006 at 05:05 PM.
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12-03-2006, 04:52 PM
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I was wondering about the laws on using/changing copyrighted material. Talked to a brother here and he said that more than 25% of the material had to be changed. Is there any merit to what he said, or anything similar on how you would have to change a symbol?
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12-03-2006, 06:08 PM
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Let's see, they took out the cross and cres on the top, changed the wording, and that's it.
They are not protected under any copyright laws from the classes I have already had. It's definately not a parody.
Hell, they even forgot to edit out our badge on the bottom.
Personally, I think maybe a few of our Colorado chapters should pay the band a "visit" at their next show based on what they said in their response. Of course I know that's not the right way to do things, but I can wish can't I?
God, I hate these types of people. The same people that all shop at Hot Topic so they can all be "different" and "express their individuality", but all seem to end up looking exactly the same as each other...kinda funny huh?
From Monty Python's Life of Brian:
Brian: You are all individuals!
Crowd: YES, YES, WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!
Brian: You are all different!
Crowd: YES, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT!
Lone Voice: I'm not.
Person next to him: SHH!
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12-03-2006, 06:10 PM
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Trey, based on my own limited copyright knowledge, I don't believe that they fall under any of the protected uses.
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12-03-2006, 06:25 PM
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I think it would be infringement because they still have our badge on the design which is a trademark or copyright, whichever, still on it. These guys are a bunch of posers with no sense of creativity. We should encourage people to buy their cd, because the more money they make using our CofA the more we get in court off these pieces of sh*t.
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12-10-2006, 02:45 PM
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How to act...
How do I report a copyright violation?
If you believe that your copyright-protected work has been copied and posted on MySpace.com in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, please provide our Copyright Agent with the following information: (i) an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright interest; (ii) a description of the copyrighted work that you claim has been infringed; (iii) a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the Website; (iv) your address, telephone number, and email address; (v) a written statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; (vi) a statement by you that the above information in your notice is accurate and, under penalty of perjury, that you are the copyright owner or authorized to act on the copyright owner's behalf. Please contact us here ( http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus...arySubject=29).
I did a little digging...here you guys go if YOU want to act...
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12-10-2006, 07:41 PM
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Let Indianapolis handle this
Guys, lets give Indianapolis a chance to deal with this. I am not an officer or director or authorized agent of Lambda Chi Alpha and could not take action anyway. We have a staff there at HQ and this is the stuff that they need to deal with.
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12-10-2006, 08:10 PM
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I just put that there to shut people up.
Someone's always quick to say what needs to be done, but
they rarely take the initiative and DO IT!
Actions speak louder than words...Just throwing that out there,
because IHQ isn't going to 'take care of it'...
Like I said previously - bigger fish to fry...
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12-10-2006, 09:52 PM
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Indy is on it
A recent note from Indianapolis indicates that MySpace has already been contacted by the staff - last week! This is now between MySpace and Indy now.
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12-10-2006, 09:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john1082
A recent note from Indianapolis indicates that MySpace has already been contacted by the staff - last week! This is now between MySpace and Indy now.
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To whom? From where? Who's doing it?
I call hearsay...
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