CMU Expansion

[irishpipes]

Originally posted by dznat187
maybe you should keep your 1980's greek-expertise to yourself, as we, the milennial greeks (or whatever you want to call us) work on fixing many of the problems in greek life started/continued/worsened in the 80s and early 90s.

What does this mean?

[33girl]

Originally posted by alum
Carnegie Mellon Grads don't stick around Pittsburgh after graduation, even the few who are actually from Western PA. Because CMU doesn't necessarily have strong alumni associations in every major city, it is important that both the men's and the women's fraternities (and at CMU most of the female groups ARE women's fraternities) who are there are known for alumnae networking.

And completely irrelevant but necessary to know, there were quite a few Harvard bigwigs involved in our colonization process. We don't place chapters that aren't in accordance with university administrations.

Oh for crying out loud in a bucket.

What I meant to say is, if you're a KKG from Yale and meet another KKG from Yale at your interview for Big Giant Job I believe it's the "Yale" that's going to put you over more than the "KKG." Perhaps our Ivy League Greeks on here can offer insight.

So yes, you need a large sorority with networking connections, but to automatically assume that the ones at the Ivy League schools ARE those would be shortsighted on your part.

As far as the "Harvard bigwigs" - KKG has only been at Harvard for two years. Oh, I understand, you mean they were involved with your Harvard colonization. That may be true, and I wasn't accusing Kappa of putting in chapters underground - just pointing out the fact that Harvard's and U Penn's systems are as different as, say, W & J and Penn State's. "Ivy League" isn't a blanket for a certain type of Greek system.

[33girl]

Originally posted by dznat187
maybe you should keep your 1980's greek-expertise to yourself, as we, the milennial greeks (or whatever you want to call us) work on fixing many of the problems in greek life started/continued/worsened in the 80s and early 90s. things are so different now, take a look.

What problems? You mean the "problems" of increased chapter totals, increased quotas, and overall involvement? Yes, you certainly are doing a whiz bang job fixing those.

You REALLY need to get off your high horse and stop saying offensive things like this as alum's comments have nothing to do with any time period. She could have said she was there in 2000 and have the same sentiments.

[Glitter650]

Originally posted by alum
As I said, I don't have a bias.

we will continue to put our opinions in with our chapters and with the school administration.

Obviously you DO have a bias, (and from what I can tell more than one.) or that wouldn't be necessary.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by 33girl
What problems? You mean the "problems" of increased chapter totals, increased quotas, and overall involvement? Yes, you certainly are doing a whiz bang job fixing those.

You REALLY need to get off your high horse and stop saying offensive things like this as alum's comments have nothing to do with any time period. She could have said she was there in 2000 and have the same sentiments.

To 33girl:

"Did you ever know that you're my hero,
and everything I would like to be?
I can fly higher than an eagle,
for you are the wind beneath my wings."

[AEPhiSierra]

With all this debating about national reputations and alumnae networking I think people are forgetting how different Greek Life is in the Northeast in general. At least from what I have seen, women up here don't usually decide to go Greek until they encounter it at their college and very often they haven't heard of any of the organizations til then either. I find that PNM here are much more concerned about their campus reputation than national reps. If that wasn't the case why would the so-called "smaller nationals" and locals be so prevalent.

[irishpipes]

Originally posted by dznat187
maybe you should keep your 1980's greek-expertise to yourself, as we, the milennial greeks (or whatever you want to call us) work on fixing many of the problems in greek life started/continued/worsened in the 80s and early 90s. things are so different now, take a look.

What is her deal with the 80s and 90s? She bashed that era in another thread, too. (Thank you - you know who you are - for pointing me in that direction.)

Originally posted by dznat187
colleges and students are changing, things are different than they were in the 80s and early 90s. the world is changing around us, why arent greek organizations? (and i don't mean rituals and stuff, i just mean the way we run stuff, approach recruitment, etc.).

How is it that someone who is active now is such an expert on how things were in the 80s and 90s? I guess I should thank her for letting me know that my Greek experience sucked because until now, I had no idea.

[valkyrie]

This thread is jacked up!

[Denise_DPhiE]

Originally posted by irishpipes

How is it that someone who is active now is such an expert on how things were in the 80s and 90s? I guess I should thank her for letting me know that my Greek experience sucked because until now, I had no idea. [/B]

Irish,
LOL ROTF.... Our experienced sucked because we "rushed" and "pledged" in the 80's. Our experience was so antiquated!!! We probably even let girls leave parties with favors. Oh my!!!

Denise
Child of the 80s

[irishpipes]

I'm going to go find all of my ancient party pics (they are actually in color despite how old they are) and take a black sharpie and draw frowns and tears of oppression on all of us poor ignorant girls.

[Tom Earp]

Maybe refering to History?

I was not in the 80s so is that wrong?

We all go through Cycles of Greeks ON Campi!

None are the same or will be from Campi to Campi. Trueism!

We all will Remember what it was like When We were there unless YOU are there now!

Correct?

[dznat187]

i did not mean that your experience sucked....it is just different than what there is now. im sorry if i offended anyone. the comment was meant for the member flaunting her knowledge of current issues. (it got me a little fired up)

while i am young (altho not 'active'-i am on the advising side now) and have not experienced everything myself, i do alot of reading and research and work with many greeks who have seen it all from the 70's to now. when a former afa pres tells me things are different now, i tend to believe him. sorry if i am wrong. i do not know all.

again, sorry if i offended anyone.


edited to add: yes tom, i totally agree with you.

[AOIIalum]

Originally posted by Denise_DPhiE
We probably even let girls leave parties with favors. Oh my!!!

We sure did and believe it or not, life did go on!

Very well said, AEPhiSierra. You really summed up many (not all, of course!) northeastern recruitments.

[naraht]

I am an alumnus of Carnegie-Mellon in Pittsburgh, I graduated in 1990. Even by the time that I graduated, Chi Omega was having problems with numbers. I do remember that the other sororities on campus (DG,DDD,KATh & KKG) *really* wanted to help them with numbers. The sorority rush process did take into account that Chi O had more slots open for pledges. When Chi Omega went under they moved one of the Fraternities (Sigma Tau Gamma) into Sorority Row for a year. (Sorority Row is a Duplex and a Triplex over top of a laundry mat/computer cluster/student store area.

From talking to people who were there for a few years after I was, the sisters of the other four sororities were not happy with the Chi O national, but I can't say if that represented anything wrong that Chi O national did in the process.

There are a couple of other sororities that once existed at Carnegie-Mellon, but I think they had only those 5 sororities for about 50 years.

Randy

[irishpipes]

Originally posted by naraht
There are a couple of other sororities that once existed at Carnegie-Mellon, but I think they had only those 5 sororities for about 50 years.

Randy

I believe AEPhi was there from 1944-1971, and Sigma Kappa was there from 1945-1967.