Underage drinker gang raped after leaving LXA-Chatt. - Page 4

PM_Mama00 · #46 11-02-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by squirrely girl
sorry if that didn't make sense -

part of a "just world" view ("just" as is fair) is that people don't want to believe that bad things happen to good people for no reason whatsoever. it is easier to believe that there is SOMETHING that the victim did wrong or could have done right than it is to believe that shit happens to nice people.

not that everybody was commenting to that effect, it just occured to me that more than a few of the responses were "seeking a reason" (in one wording or another) and sometimes there just isn't. one shouldn't look for reason in rape, unless they're trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with the rapist.

- marissa

Thanks for the clarification. I was just confused.

Sugar and Spice I agree with what you said. Rapes happen all over the place for whatever reasons during whatever situations. BUT.... I think people in this thread are just speaking in terms of this situation. Hell yeah 7 college football players would scare the crap out of anyone. It's horrible what they [allegedly] did. But you can't help but think that yes alcohol was a factor in this.

No staying away from parties won't keep you from getting raped, but getting annihilated (sp?) at a party and going home with some random guy is an unfortunate risk that this poor girl took.

rhochi2002 · #47 11-02-2005, 06:21 PM

I don't think it is fair to tell women they should not be at parties. WE all go to parties when we are undergrads. It's a fun thing to do.
Agree with Sugar and Spice... unless that girl was Buffy the Vampire Slayer their is no way you can fight off seven guys.
Just for the record if a women says no but doesn't fight off the attacker-- it's still rape.
Also I know the report says that the boys took off her clothes... but it doesn't matter what happened... if she said no and they had sex with her then its rape.
Also the attorney's reply makes me mad... anyone else?

preciousjeni · #48 11-02-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by rhochi2002
I don't think it is fair to tell women they should not be at parties. WE all go to parties when we are undergrads. It's a fun thing to do.
Agree with Sugar and Spice... unless that girl was Buffy the Vampire Slayer their is no way you can fight off seven guys.
Just for the record if a women says no but doesn't fight off the attacker-- it's still rape.
Also I know the report says that the boys took off her clothes... but it doesn't matter what happened... if she said no and they had sex with her then its rape.
Also the attorney's reply makes me mad... anyone else?

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
No one posting here has even hinted that the activity described in the report wasn't rape.

Which link are you looking at for the attorney's reply?

rhochi2002 · #49 11-02-2005, 06:57 PM

Opps... heres the link http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
the quote I am refering to is;
"They were there and they were suspended for being there," said Chattanooga attorney Jerry Summers, who is representing at least some of the football players."
I don't think that anyone on here is saying that it wasn't rape... I was just pointing out, that some people tend to think that if a woman doesn't fight back or agrees with things up to a point then it isn't rape.

preciousjeni · #50 11-02-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by rhochi2002
Opps... heres the link http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
the quote I am refering to is;
"They were there and they were suspended for being there," said Chattanooga attorney Jerry Summers, who is representing at least some of the football players."
I don't think that anyone on here is saying that it wasn't rape... I was just pointing out, that some people tend to think that if a woman doesn't fight back or agrees with things up to a point then it isn't rape.

Oh - I see it now. Suspended "for being there"??? That's truly laughable.

Tom Earp · #51 11-02-2005, 07:18 PM

FootBallers were Charged with Curfew Violations? How ignorant!

If the LXA Chapter had any part in this, I stand to say So Long!

They are in a Lock Down Done By Them and No One Else!! No one but Members and New Associate Members. They will paticipiate in The LXA Food Dricew which is up and coming.

Yes, I would also like to get to the bottom of this!

This not only Makes LXA Look Bad, But All GLOs!

JonInKC · #52 11-02-2005, 09:47 PM

I wonder if they know "Chip" over at Mizzou...

Beanblossom1 · #53 11-02-2005, 09:58 PM

I graduated from UTC in 97. This story really struck a nerve with me. I briefly dated a guy who lived in Boling 202 - I can visualize where the whole thing allegedly occurred. I still remember what the LXA house looks like - and of course staying there late some nights partying.

This isn't the first time that one of the sports teams has been in trouble for causing problems at a fraternity party (or after being at one of the fraternity parties). I vividly remember a fight breaking out at a Kappa Sig party - started by the wrestling team. After that occurred, guest lists were strictly enforced. It was really sad that a few people ruined it for the others.

I feel bad for LXA. Of course, I don't know any of their current members, but the brothers that were there 10 years ago were nice guys. If these guys are the same type of guys, then they don't deserve their name being drug thru the mud.

I can totally see the football players being in trouble for breaking a curfew - they took that stuff pretty seriously. If these guys really did it, I hope they are punished to the fullest extent of the law. I still have friends in Chattanooga - I'll keep you posted as this unfolds.

exlurker · #54 11-02-2005, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
. . . I don't think this one could be swept under the carpet by the university or athletic department. . . .

Usually I think you're right, DeltAlum. In cases like this, however, I lean toward Coramoor's more cynical position. Even at schools that aren't spectacular football powerhouses, the athletic department and its influential supporters (the gambling industry, the vendors of souvenirs, the "hospitality industry," the athletic conference and the networks / stations and licensees contractually linked to it, and so on) have an amazing ability -- and an amazing amount of money -- to make almost anything disappear. Schools like McGill, which canceled its season because of a hazing scandal, are few and far between. We'll see, of course. I've been wrong before.

DeltAlum · #55 11-03-2005, 12:29 AM

I think if this can be proven, felony counts against seven athletes is more than any university can overlook.

preciousjeni · #56 11-03-2005, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I think if this can be proven, felony counts against seven athletes is more than any university can overlook.

ECUJacob · #57 11-08-2005, 11:49 AM

I'm amazed at this entire situation... I guess we would like to think that people are better than that, but we're usually proven wrong. I feel for her and I hope she recovers from this ordeal.

Tom Earp · #58 11-08-2005, 06:05 PM

I am still appaled at this situation and sometimes Athletes are held of above the rules which they shouldnt be at all.

The Chapter should be looked at By and will be by LXA IHQ.

Now, if these so called JOCKs will be looked at also with the same jaundiced eye will be told in the long run!

NutBrnHair · #59 11-08-2005, 06:44 PM

Six Charged in Alleged Gang Rape Investigation

Six U-T-C football players are now charged with rape. The charges are the result of an investigation into allegations of gang rape made by an 18 year old female UTC student.
The six charged are Lironnie Davis, DeJuan Payne, Muhammed Ahmad Abdus-Salaam, Cori Stukes, Terrence Thomas and Larry White. Anthony Brodnax was not charged. The seven players were suspended from the team. Their attorney claims the sex was consentual. Campus police turned over their findings to the Hamilton County District Attorney's office. They met today and announced the criminal charges this afternoon. Head football coach Rodney Allison will hold a news conference at 5:30 this evening and we'll have more information as it becomes available.

www.wrcb.com

Tom Earp · #60 11-09-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by NutBrnHair
Six Charged in Alleged Gang Rape Investigation

Six U-T-C football players are now charged with rape. The charges are the result of an investigation into allegations of gang rape made by an 18 year old female UTC student.
The six charged are Lironnie Davis, DeJuan Payne, Muhammed Ahmad Abdus-Salaam, Cori Stukes, Terrence Thomas and Larry White. Anthony Brodnax was not charged. The seven players were suspended from the team. Their attorney claims the sex was consentual. Campus police turned over their findings to the Hamilton County District Attorney's office. They met today and announced the criminal charges this afternoon. Head football coach Rodney Allison will hold a news conference at 5:30 this evening and we'll have more information as it becomes available.

www.wrcb.com

Yep that sounds about right. Their Lawyer said. BS, He has to!

Sounds Like T O of The Eagles, Well, I really didnt meant to do that! Hell, His background is nothing but!

If They Did This, then Fry their butts.

If it had nothing to with LXA Chapter then Print it also.

Anytime there is a shread Of Greek Envolved, the name is mentioned isnt it!

It amazase Me How Many Greek Heathens there are supposed to be!