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James · #46 10-26-2005, 03:58 AM

Some of these responses are not completely fair.

At 17 she might be a genius. At 17 she might be extremely well read and well traveled. At 17 she might have acute observations on life.

I certainly know people in their 50's that I consider clueless.

Her age is not a limiting factor in her opinion. If she said that people marry at all ages depending on their circumstances . . we would all be lauding her . .. because we agreed with her.

To diminish the validity of her opinion based on her perceived youth does an injustice not only to her, but also to the people that took their time to counter the merits of her agument.

I have noticed that on GC there is a tendency to belittle the author of an argument that people disagree with rather that just countering its presuppositions.

Its like killing the messenger because you don't like the message.

These types of responses show intellectual laziness, poor argument skills or simple malice.

kddani · #47 10-26-2005, 06:03 AM

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Originally posted by James
At 17 she might be a genius. At 17 she might be extremely well read and well traveled. At 17 she might have acute observations on life.
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These types of responses show intellectual laziness, poor argument skills or simple malice.

As for the first statement, I don't believe she shows any of those things through her post.

As for the second statement, it just shows that you didn't read the thread and that, as always, you just like to stir up trouble by posting something that you know will get to people.

KerriMarie · #48 10-26-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Glitter650
I guess I'll go pull out the knitting needles and maybe take up some other hobbies since dating and marriage aren't on the horizon for me at my old age, thanks for clearing that up.

Hey now! Knitting it not just for old ladies anymore, knitting is HOT! Take a look around at the knitting book aisle at Borders, or check out a local yarn store - tons of 20 year olds knit.

...but they're not married.

KSUViolet06 · #49 10-26-2005, 11:33 AM

I'm in a sorority and haven't had a boyfriend since I joined. It's never been an issue. When we have Date Parties, I bring my one of my guy friends and we have a great time. MOST of my sisters are 19/20 and none of them are engaged. Some of them have boyfriends, but I can only think of 2 that are anywhere near serious enough for engagement.

I think the 20's are for living it up, learning, growing, and figuring out what you do and don't like in a guy. You should date and enjoy yourself, so that when Mr. Right does come along, you've lived enough to know that he's a good match for you.

adpiucf · #50 10-26-2005, 11:47 AM

Amen sister!

SPersuasion · #51 10-26-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by Danshun
Im just curious about how you guys feel about this. Where I goto college almost no one is single and I can not think of a single 21+ year old who is sinlge. My school does not have a greek life but from what i here sorority girls are more likely to be sinlge, but from what i see if you are 21 you would at least be engaged.
So what is it? In my opinion it is stupid and rare to be in your 20s and not in a long term relationship. Your 20s are ment to be planning your family, or atleast be with the person you are going to spend your life with. I am not dissing greek life, infact I am planning on joining one next year, but to all the single sorority girls.....think.... Look around and you will see that most people your age are engaged. Start thinking about marriage before its to late.

Surely you jest

Are you seriously saying that people in their early twenties, most of which have no idea what job we'll hold next week should be considering SETTLING DOWN? I'm all for marriage and that hoopla, but I have more important things going on. Too many people use "getting hitched" as an excuse to become lazy and co-dependent. I know people in their late 30's who aren't married and are doing quite fine. Once I get this PHD and conquer my realities, then I'll consider all that.

But again, I'm sure you're kidding.

AUDeltaGam · #52 10-26-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by SPersuasion
Surely you jest

Are you seriously saying that people in their early twenties, most of which have no idea what job we'll hold next week should be considering SETTLING DOWN? I'm all for marriage and that hoopla, but I have more important things going on. Too many people use "getting hitched" as an excuse to become lazy and co-dependent. I know people in their late 30's who aren't married and are doing quite fine. Once I get this PHD and conquer my realities, then I'll consider all that.

But again, I'm sure you're kidding.

Amen!

Corsulian · #53 10-26-2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by Danshun
Where I goto college almost no one is single and I can not think of a single 21+ year old who is sinlge.

Do you go to college in 1849 by any chance?

wrigley · #54 10-26-2005, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by Corsulian
Do you go to college in 1849 by any chance?

Nah, it's college of Noah's ark. In order to graduate, you have to be paired up or else no diploma.

AnchorAlumna · #55 10-27-2005, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Danshun
My school has no greek life but it is a community college... There are pleanty of people in my classes 20+ and not one of them is sinlge.

Well there you go. Not only is the average student in a community college usually older, but they are also more likely to be attached to somebody, whether by marriage or other...that's why they call them HOMETOWN honeys at bigger colleges. It's just a demographic thing. When you get to the 4-year college you'll find plenty of single 21-year-olds. Don't worry.

James · #56 10-27-2005, 03:19 AM

The community college demographic varies widely.

Its an inaccurate generalization to assume that community colleges are populated by much odler students.

Here are statistics from one in NJ:

You can see that out of 8,500 students the average age of 4250 of them is 20 years old. That 43% are under 20 and that 71% are under 34.

Fast Facts (as of Fall 2004)

CCM offers 76 different degree and certificate programs.
Number of students: 8,500
Full-time students: 50 %
Part-time students: 50 %
Average age of full-time students: 20
Average age of part-time students: 31
Students age 20 & younger: 43%
Students from ages 21-34: 38%
Students ages 35 and older: 19%
Minority enrollment: 25 %
Students from out-of-county: 24 %
Average class size: 22

http://www.ccm.edu/collabout.shtml

James · #57 10-27-2005, 03:28 AM

I don't believe you read my post carefully.

I posted:

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I have noticed that on GC there is a tendency to belittle the author of an argument that people disagree with rather that just countering its presuppositions.

Its like killing the messenger because you don't like the message.

These types of responses show intellectual laziness, poor argument skills or simple malice.

And as far as causing trouble for trouble's sake . . . How are posts that defend posters that are being belittled considered troublemaking . . but the ones that mock are not?

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Originally posted by kddani
As for the first statement, I don't believe she shows any of those things through her post.

As for the second statement, it just shows that you didn't read the thread and that, as always, you just like to stir up trouble by posting something that you know will get to people.

Denise_DPhiE · #58 10-27-2005, 04:36 AM

http://www.ccm.edu/collabout.shtm

James,

(sorry for hijack)

Hey, that college is literally down the road from me! This is a welll kept secret. These kids get a great and inexpensive education in 2 years and then transfer to the big schools.

Depending on the area, community colleges can vary greatly. They do even have national ranking. CCM is a rare bread. I would say most Community College people ARE NOT the well read, well bred, under 21 types you are hoping for.

Denise

GtownGirl98 · #59 10-27-2005, 10:34 AM

I think that the author of this post has left the "building" so to speak...

And haven't we taken a wrong turn from where this topic started... most of you are posting about not being married and being greek... whereas the author was pointing out that same fact... what we need to be stating are facts about being greek and being married.

I for one know many sisters that came into the sorority married (literally and figuritively). I am also a sister who meet my husband through a sister and married at the ripe old age of 25. I graduated from a small private school that was connected to a religious org. I don't know anything about the author of this topic except that I have a gifted 18 year old college freshman for a brother and he has some of the same thoughts on life. I think that this person is a sheltered 17 year old, who hasn't seen the "real" world to know that being greek doesn't keep you from being married and doesn't mandate that you get married. I see her cc as a small school away from a large city where most people who go there choose to marry and remain close to home and still get their education.

As to the knitting remark... don't hate. I'll teach you how to do wonders with a needle and thread!