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Old 12-03-2004, 11:32 PM
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Because some groups want to better reflect their surroundings. A non-GLO group that I am involved with, for example, would like to reflect Toronto rather than a certain segment of the city. If we want to look like the city's make-up we have to like have ten times as many minorities!
it looks like you want to focus on getting minorities vs. quality members. if you try and recruit more minorities, but your pledge classes are still predominantly white....will you think you have failed in some sort of way?

historically white sororities do not (in general, if i'm wrong...correct me) have national programs geared specifically towards the benefit of minority people. specifically recruiting based on race reeks of tokenism to me. that's like the bruhs making me just because they wanted a filipino bruh.
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:37 PM
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it looks like you want to focus on getting minorities vs. quality members. if you try and recruit more minorities, but your pledge classes are still predominantly white....will you think you have failed in some sort of way?

historically white sororities do not (in general, if i'm wrong...correct me) have national programs geared specifically towards the benefit of minority people. specifically recruiting based on race reeks of tokenism to me. that's like the bruhs making me just because they wanted a filipino bruh.
This non-GLO group I'm involved with usually gets its new members through the connections that actives have. I guess most people there don't have close-close friends who are minorities (you don't want to just approach someone at work and say "do you want to join this org?")
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:46 PM
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This non-GLO group I'm involved with usually gets its new members through the connections that actives have. I guess most people there don't have close-close friends who are minorities (you don't want to just approach someone at work and say "do you want to join this org?")
that's great, but in the greek context that we're talking about....white GLO's really shouldn't be specifically gearing their methods of attracting new members because they are minorities....especially if that's not the organization's focus to begin with.
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:52 PM
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that's great, but in the greek context that we're talking about....white GLO's really shouldn't be specifically gearing their methods of attracting new members because they are minorities....especially if that's not the organization's focus to begin with.
This group isn't trying to get new members just because someone's a minority either, but we'd just like to somehow reflect our surroundings. We don't want to get women who aren't ready to commit to service.
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Old 12-04-2004, 12:08 AM
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This group isn't trying to get new members just because someone's a minority either, but we'd just like to somehow reflect our surroundings. We don't want to get women who aren't ready to commit to service.
that's good to hear, but this thread is concerning multicultural GLO's.
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Old 12-04-2004, 10:18 AM
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While GLOs try to do the good for many that is not the question.

Maybe the reason that MCGLOS and LGLOS have come into being is that these people Men/Women do not feel comfortable with what is available.

So, if one doesnt, then why not start something that they feel good with?

Guess I am being Plain and Simple!
That seems to be the reason for the development of SOGLOs (Sexual Orientation GLOs). And it makes sense- find a GLO where you feel comfortable. If that means being with more people like you (ethnically or sexually), so be it.
But personally I consider it a means for the minority group to isolate themselves from the rest of society. I know most people would disagree with my opinion- but how can misinformation and others' opinions change when a minority group keeps to themselves? My guess is my opinion is biased on being from a campus with less than 9% racial/ethnic minority and what the administration considers a strong-level of homophobia.
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Old 12-04-2004, 11:42 AM
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Please stop calling us white sororities or white fraternities.
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Old 12-04-2004, 12:55 PM
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Please stop calling us white sororities or white fraternities.
Hey all, can we be sure to put a "historically" in front of white/black/latino/etc.????
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Old 12-04-2004, 12:56 PM
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That seems to be the reason for the development of SOGLOs (Sexual Orientation GLOs). And it makes sense- find a GLO where you feel comfortable. If that means being with more people like you (ethnically or sexually), so be it.
But personally I consider it a means for the minority group to isolate themselves from the rest of society. I know most people would disagree with my opinion- but how can misinformation and others' opinions change when a minority group keeps to themselves? My guess is my opinion is biased on being from a campus with less than 9% racial/ethnic minority and what the administration considers a strong-level of homophobia.
It's hard to have a unified front if you are so dispersed throughout an organization.
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:22 PM
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Please stop calling us white sororities or white fraternities.
why? y'all are historically white.
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:27 PM
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why? y'all are historically white.
Our membership may be historically white, but that doesn't describe the character of any NIC or NPC organization of which I'm aware.

No one sat down and said, "lets start a white fraternity." If you read the public statements of NIC or NPC organizations' values, no where is "white" anything mentioned (at least with regard to race or ethnicity.)

Calling us "white" is insulting because it shows that you are either completely unaware about what we are, or simply don't care.
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:30 PM
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Our membership may be historically white, but that doesn't describe the character of any NIC or NPC organization of which I'm aware.

No one sat down and said, "lets start a white fraternity." If you read the public statements of NIC or NPC organizations' values, no where is "white" anything mentioned. Period.

Calling us "white" is insulting because it shows that you are either completely unaware about what we are, or simply don't care.
how is "white" insulting? y'all are historically white, and predominantly white. just the way it is. no one is trying to insult any of you. so instead of saying historically white, i'd rather just say white.
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:37 PM
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how is "white" insulting? y'all are historically white, and predominantly white. just the way it is. no one is trying to insult any of you. so instead of saying historically white, i'd rather just say white.
Its insulting, and very disrespectful, because you are redefining us.

If you take the time to read our values statements (creeds, etc.,) you'll realize that there is a better, and more accurate way by which to refer to us.
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:45 PM
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Its insulting, and very disrespectful, because you are redefining us.

If you take the time to read our values statements (creeds, etc.,) you'll realize that there is a better, and more accurate way by which to refer to us.

i think y'all are looking at the word "white" as disrespectful when it's not. no one is redefining anything...due to the fact that you're creed, values and what not will not change. y'all are called that due to the population make up of your membership, nothing more nothing less.
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:51 PM
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i think y'all are looking at the word "white" as disrespectful when it's not. no one is redefining anything...due to the fact that you're creed, values and what not will not change. y'all are called that due to the population make up of your membership, nothing more nothing less.
You may not agree with how we look at this use of "white, " but we are unanimous in our discomfort with that use. To repeatedly use it in this way, many times after these sentiments have been expressed, is nothing less than disrespectful.

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