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Originally posted by kleptobyte
All fraternities should be dry. What does alcohol have to with Hellenism? Not the "Hellenism" frats claim to forward but true Hellenism, you know from Greece. You know, the ideals that your little clubs were supposed to forward and represent? The answer is, nothing.
If you want to have a club based on copius alcohol consumption, make one that doesn't defame the image of ETHNIC GREEKS!!!!!
What if some Chinese guys made the WASP club and centered it around the debasement of women. How would you all feel about that?
It's time your cute little college clubs stopped defaming Greek culture and language. I'm all for dry frats and sororities. maybe reputable people would join instead of clueless, cultureless suburban kids who have to borrow our language and culture as monnikers for their debauchery.
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Normally I would ignore someone like you because it's obvious you are working off of so many preconceived notions it's just ridiculous to even try and "speak" with you. However I'm feeling a bit punchy right now since your post was so ridiculously off base that I feel I must respond.
To reinforce your argument you might want to try to do some true research before you claim that greek letter organizations are what you apparently think they are.
1. Hellenistic - not so much there turbo. Aside from using greek letters, most of the organizations have little to do with hellenistic culture. My organization's ideals are not the same as others that are out there but not all of them are based on truly greek ideals, more humanistic ideals if you will. I can't remember the last time we all went out to defame ethnic greeks, nor can I remember any stories about that in the news. Must just be because I am a shallow narrowminded culturless suburban kid. Oh wait...I'm not.
2. Find out if in fact all members of said organizations are clueless cultureless suburban kids - not so much yet again. Case in point the sheer number of EDUCATED people that are in them. Not all of the members are suburban, nor uncultured. I'm sure there are some...but there are also people out there who join internet message boards to argue their baseless points just for the sake of arguing.
3. Based on copious alcohol consumption - yet again, no dice...and of course we all know that it's only members of fraternities and sororities that ever drink.

Now, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I will assume all fraternities and sororities were not formed with the purpose to get wasted - someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
4. Try not to be so condescending when arguing with people. It debases your argument and makes you look petty and your arguments laughable. "Cute little college clubs" is just looking to get a rise out of people and if you're going to be insulting why not try and do a better job of it?
In another post you also made reference to the type of people fraternities attract...I'm not even going to try and refute your argument with the countless numbers of people of all greek letter organizations who have done great things for their communities. Why not go to fratty.com or whatever that lame website is and argue with the stereotypes...you'll have more fun. While you're at it, try to stop digging up old posts just to stir the pot. It makes you look pathetic and lame.
ETA: Troll clean-up aisle 2.