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11-02-2004, 11:53 AM
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Eminem is stirring people to vote? I'm glad you were able to decide what his true intentions were. Eminem you are such a great guy donating all that money to getting people to vote and releasing your song so late into the election process.
You also have Eminem pegged as a Democrat. I wonder on what issues Eminem has come out as a Democrat.
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Oh my.... I haven't commented on these discussions before because I just see a lot of name calling and immature tactics. With that said, I could not resist joining in due to the comments of a few posters.
What makes you think entertainers and Eminem AREN'T making a difference in young voters??
I am a student in college in a very conservative state and I have seen many of my fellow students become more involved in this election. I have always been a hardcore liberal who pressed my friends into voting in EVERY election (even homecoming court lol) but this time these people are actually registered. Their parents, school teachers, high school government classes, CNN, or the fact that it was RIGHT that young people before them FOUGHT for could not energize these people.... but now they ARE registering, volunteering, and voting in record numbers. They are pissed off about the economy, the fact that the price of tuition is IMPOSSIBLE to pay (and I attend a "cheaper" school), they do not think we should be in a war with Iraq, they wonder why it is that Bush does not care about "smoking Osama out of his hole" anymore, and they really care about gay marriage, abortion, and stem cell research.
For the most part these are issues that have been argued before (which countries should the US interfere with, the economy, social issues, and the environment)... yet now many of the students I know say this is the most important election of their lives.... and they also say that MTV's Choose or Lose, P.Diddy's "Vote or Die" and the fact that DMB, Bruce Springsteen, and Foo Fighters (to name a few) are on the campaign trail with John Kerry are the reasons they became involved in the process after ALL this time. The Eminem video has been talked about numerous times. These kids started watching Comedy Central and some are now even tuning into CNN on a regular basis.
In my opinion, and due to the many personal instances I see on a daily basis.... these entertainers (whom some of you seem to think should shut up or are not doing anything,) have gotten these young adults involved in the political process. These are people I know, have known all my life or have known a few months that have decided to get involved and are making decisions regarding their political beliefs. And yes, I know for a fact that a majjority of it would not have happened if it WEREN'T for so many entertainers jump starting them and being such great role models. They have said this is the first time they felt like their vote would affect them and make a difference, and the first time they felt like a value to a campaign.
You can THANK entertainers such as Eminem for getting young people involved in the political process instead of criticizing him.
And if you don't like his message, perhaps you should find an entertainer to stir up the young Republicans........
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11-02-2004, 11:55 AM
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While you're busy thanking people for something that makes no sense, read my response.
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sorry Rudey, but while often times you have very intelligent points to make, I don't read your posts because of their inflammatory nature.
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11-02-2004, 11:56 AM
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sorry Rudey, but while often times you have very intelligent points to make, I don't read your posts because of their inflammatory nature.
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Really? Even though you make baseless accusations and carry a heavy attitude in many of your posts, I still respond if they're wrong and I care to.
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11-02-2004, 12:41 PM
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This thread is great...
for me to poop on!
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11-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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You also have Eminem pegged as a Democrat. I wonder on what issues Eminem has come out as a Democrat.
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Interesting.
I don't think Eminem's necessarily a Democrat either, although I certainly think he's more liberal than conservative. Anybody want to take guesses at which political party he'd mostly likely align himself with?
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11-02-2004, 01:58 PM
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Interesting.
I don't think Eminem's necessarily a Democrat either, although I certainly think he's more liberal than conservative. Anybody want to take guesses at which political party he'd mostly likely align himself with?
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The party that will make him the most money.
If you say otherwise, I'd like to know on what issues it is that Eminem would align himself with a party. I'd like to even know what issues it is that he is liberal on.
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11-02-2004, 04:48 PM
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i think the video is great.
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11-02-2004, 04:53 PM
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i think the video is great.
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Really? Why is that?
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11-02-2004, 06:14 PM
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Whoa.
I'm not a fan at all of Eminem. I found a couple of his songs to be mildly amusing, but that's about it.
Thanks for posting the link to the video...I kept hearing how "controversial" it was, etc.
I think it was pretty interesting and to be pretty honest, I think it's great that he said what he was feeling and used a "song" to express himself.
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11-02-2004, 10:16 PM
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Really? Why is that?
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because i said so. that's why.
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11-03-2004, 06:20 AM
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I never said EMINEM was doing this to influence young people to vote, nor do I pretend to know exactly what his motives for making the video are. I was just stating that more of the young people I know are getting more involved in the political process due to entertainers like him. I honestly wish you would read through people's posts before you go on the attack. In my opinion, you criticize others for thinking they know the motives of Eminem and other entertaines, but it is OK for YOU to know their motives. You attack ANYONE who disagrees with your views in VERY inflammatory posts, and it is actually quite amusing and sad in a way.
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11-03-2004, 07:41 AM
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i don't agree with what Em is sayin in this video, and i question his motives. but it's the best musical political statement composed this election. i saw the concert video of Bruce Sprinsteen, Dave Matthews, Dixie Chicks, etc...something to the effect of "people have the power..." man, that was a crappy song. apparently, you put all that talent on one stage and it turns to poo.
that said, Em is an over-played clown.
there are so many better things to listen to: e.g. Scissor Sisters
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11-03-2004, 11:57 AM
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because i said so. that's why.
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Yeah too bad you couldn't back up what you said.
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11-03-2004, 08:12 PM
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Yeah too bad you couldn't back up what you said.
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why should i? who put you in charge? i think the video is fabulous, end of story. i don't need to back up anything for you
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11-03-2004, 08:23 PM
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why should i? who put you in charge? i think the video is fabulous, end of story. i don't need to back up anything for you
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Nobody said I was in charge. I only asked a question.
Good for you. It's great that you can't back yourself up and think things are great. Many people sit blindly and stare into space and smile at nothing and think things are fabulous.
-Rudey
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