Jewel Degree - Page 4

HBADPi · #46 05-08-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by FirstAndFinest

I'm *so* glad school is out for the summer! I know my sister advisors must feel the same!

Argh so jealous you're done, I still have another 2 wks and in those two weeks I have:

a formal to chaperone,
e-board, and
Jewel Degree

They love working me till the very end!

polarpi · #47 05-09-2006, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by HBADPi
Argh so jealous you're done, I still have another 2 wks and in those two weeks I have:

a formal to chaperone,
e-board, and
Jewel Degree

They love working me till the very end!

I feel you! I'm helping with formal this Friday, and I *think* I'll be done then, but we'll have to see how the next week plays out!

Thankfully we completed Jewel Degree yesterday!

FirstAndFinest · #48 05-09-2006, 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by HBADPi
Argh so jealous you're done, I still have another 2 wks and in those two weeks I have:

a formal to chaperone,
e-board, and
Jewel Degree

They love working me till the very end!

Another advisor and I were planning to drop by their formal for a very short while - since we are not invited and it is closer to me than their school is! Plus, other advisor had a hideous bridesmaid dress to "wear again" - until I got a call from a member who told me girls, especially those wanting an office in the future, were crying, upset that I would be there, thus they couldn't have fun and be themselves.

HBADPi · #49 05-09-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by FirstAndFinest
Another advisor and I were planning to drop by their formal for a very short while - since we are not invited and it is closer to me than their school is! Plus, other advisor had a hideous bridesmaid dress to "wear again" - until I got a call from a member who told me girls, especially those wanting an office in the future, were crying, upset that I would be there, thus they couldn't have fun and be themselves.

Wow youre nicer than I am. I dont even give them the chance to invite me, advisors all go no questions or complaining about it. I'm sorry your girls are being selfish and childish about this.

HBADPi · #50 05-09-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by polarpi
I feel you! I'm helping with formal this Friday, and I *think* I'll be done then, but we'll have to see how the next week plays out!

Ours is Friday too!! What stinks is that its 10 minutes from work and it makes no sense for me to go home and change so a coworker has been kind enough to let me get ready at her place. Their theme (the actual name escapes me) is no black attire so while I was bummed since i have a great black dress to wear I went out and bought this FABULOUS gold dress!! I'll be sure to post pics!

ADPiAkron · #51 05-09-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by HBADPi
Wow youre nicer than I am. I dont even give them the chance to invite me, advisors all go no questions or complaining about it. I'm sorry your girls are being selfish and childish about this.

I was always told at least one advisor had to be there for risk management purposes (we do not give them a choice)...we had 4 out of the 6 advisors in attendance this year.

But they do send us invitations and invite our significant others too. I went to my first formal this year as an advisor- it was not the best time for me since I had to go alone (fiance was working)- so I told him he has no choice next year- he will be there! haha

HBADPi · #52 05-09-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by ADPiAkron
I was always told at least one advisor had to be there for risk management purposes (we do not give them a choice)...we had 4 out of the 6 advisors in attendance this year.

But they do send us invitations and invite our significant others too. I went to my first formal this year as an advisor- it was not the best time for me since I had to go alone (fiance was working)- so I told him he has no choice next year- he will be there! haha

Youre right as far as the risk management is concerned. I'm expecting 3 of the 5 advisors to show on Friday and our SOs are invited as well. But I dont think any of us will be bringing SOs this time, we all brought dates last formal and the guys didnt have as much fun. We have had far more fun when its a girls night out and meet up with the guys after the formal.

adpiucf · #53 05-09-2006, 03:46 PM

Wow! We always had advisers at our formal. I can't imagine anyone being upset at having advisers present at formal!!

honeychile · #54 05-09-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by adpiucf
Wow! We always had advisers at our formal. I can't imagine anyone being upset at having advisers present at formal!!

That was SOP for us, too.

FirstAndFinest · #55 05-10-2006, 06:41 AM

My chapter had no advisors at any parties or hte Christmas formal, but we DID for Black Diamond - and they brought their husbands. *MY* DH wants nothing to do with it - especially when the Yankees are on!

The other advisor, new to them this year, sent an email to the EC expressing her disappointment in their leadership. Nothing was said at FD/JD and classes are out for the year. We'll take up the matter in the Fall.

How do you handle the finances? The chapter members pay for formals out of the social budget, thus their dues, and pay via passthru for dates & favors (& alcohol, of course). So, should the advisors be paid for from dues?

Adelphean · #56 05-22-2006, 03:25 PM

When it comes to paying for "entrance to formal" advsors should be able to go free, but like the actives, favors and dates should be paid out of their own pocket.

adpiucf · #57 05-22-2006, 04:54 PM

If this were a high school fieldtrip, the students fee would be a bit over the actual costs of airfare/hotel/all-inclusives to cover the cost of chaperones. It should be no different with a sorority date event.

Also, consider this: Advisers and their dates should be covered under dues as a matter of doing the right thing. The advisers volunteer their time all year for the chapter and put up with a lot of abuse, sometimes playing mom or housekeeper to some collegiate officers who neglect their duties; if they have to chaperone an event, then by all means the chapter should assume the cost of the adviser and their companion if they bring one. I can't imagine why an adviser would want a picture frame or t-shirt commemorating the event, but it seems to me throwing $40 out to give an adviser a date or a plaque is a very small price to pay for the 24/7 accessibility, retreats, meetings, mediation and training they provide to a chapter.

This is not a hard and fast rule. But it's a small price to pay to retain your advisers and show some appreciation for their support.

honeychile · #58 05-22-2006, 11:19 PM

Just to agree with adpiucf's opinion, I know an Advisor (I'm fairly certain that FirstAndFinest knows who I mean) who actually was de facto Treasurer for the chapter she advised for two years! To my knowledge - and I'm fairly certain I would have heard - she's never even received a "thank you".

I think most collegians would be relieved to know that most Advisors would like to be invited to their formals, but don't necessarily plan to stay long (if at all). It's really the thought that counts.

Adelphean · #59 05-23-2006, 02:06 AM

I understand where you all are coming from, however, when I was an active, we had FIVE advisors. Paying for ALL of them plus their dates is taking away QUITE a bit money from the chapter.
Again, I know being an advisor is a time consuming job, but each advisor accepted the position knowing that it is a volunteer position. Asking advisors to pay for their dates (and any extras), in my opinion is not at ALL out of line.

adpiucf · #60 05-23-2006, 10:35 AM

I respectfully disagree. Yes, advisers are volunteers. But I have yet to be a member of any volunteer-based organization that does not show appreciation to its volunteers in the form of some gift, event or recognition.

It is giving back to the people who have given so much to the chapter. And it is not a chapter hardship if properly budgeted.

IE: Chapter of 50 members

5 advisers (plus 5 dates)

Formal costs $40 to attend

Total Cost to Chapter $400

$400/50 members equals $8 per member over the course of a 9 month school year. That averages out to less than $1 allocated per month per individual member dues paid to an account for advisers to attend an end of the year banquet.

Less than a dollar a month. Pennies a day. A very small price to pay to say thank you to advisers and give them some small sense of appreciation.... so they come back next year to continue their tireless efforts. In the end, it costs the chapter a lot less to make an $8 committment per member to the advisers-- the costs of constantly having to recruit new advisers and hope they remain costs the chapter far more in the long run. As we've seen time and again, consistent advisory supports contributes greatly to long term chapter health.