What would make you switch parties?

[mullet81]

she was born and raised in Mozambique - but she sounds pretty damn impressive to me! I have no problem with a wife (or husband when we have a female president) being foreign born but otherwise a naturalized citizen.

info about Teresa
http://johnkerry.convio.com/site/Pag...show_wrapper=1

random facts about her:
- She speaks five languages and studied in Geneva to be an interpreter
- She became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1971, and joined the Republican Party
- she was married to Republican Sen. John Heinz of Pennsylvania before he died in a plane crash in 1991
- her and Kerry married in 1995 - she has 3 sons, he has 2 daughters (it's nearly the brady bunch )
- she took her husbands name (Kerry) only when he entered the presidential race (as did the wives of Bill Clinton & Howard Dean)
- she also switched parties (from republican to democrat) so she could vote for him
- she is chairman of The Heinz Endowments and the Heinz Family Philanthropies

I wonder if the people of Monaco had a problem with Grace Kelly becoming princess or if the people of Jordan had a problem with Queen Noor (she is an amazing woman)

[justamom]

damasa and other thinking this-

Originally posted by damasa
I think honeychile is talking about naturalized Americans.

From what I take in your post you are talking about a person being an American citizen. Would you then be accepting of a first lady that was granted American citizenship?

There's a world of difference between wanting and accepting.
Considering the politics of the past 16+ years, I guess I'd have to say I'd be accepting. Look at all I've "accepted" thus far.
So much for hypothetical...

Rudey-Since people like hijacking my thread you'd think they'd at least give some thought as to why that rule is there? Is it to elect the person that acts "most American" and what is American? Stop acting like you know and stay on topic.

Now, now Rudey that's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black!

Valkyrie- My dad was born in Lithuania but he is just as much of an American as you or I am. Actually, I had just read a post in another thread that got me going so my response bled into this one...Big no-no! Of course he is. Did not mean to offend.

[Tom Earp]

We do not need a female President!

Hell, Nancy Reagan was the Power behind Ronnie! Still is!

Hillary was not aware and as smart as Bill, well smarter! DA!

Whats His Name with Whats Her Name Carter? What a corn pone! Oh, peanut man!

God, I am still pissed that god took one of our ribs and made woman, and we have been paying for it ever since!

Oh, just a rant!

Aint in for the Pound, aint in for the Ounce!

Arnold is already turning things around in the Land of Fruits and Nuts, but his life line is Maria, Blood of the Kennedys!

Arrg me heartless Political Demigods, try to vote it you do for the Best Man!

One out of two a may not be the best, but what the hell, who do you vote for!?????

Ran for elections twice, thank god I lost!


Mary had a little Lamb, everywhere Mary went the Lamb was still sucking up to Her!

Right in the croutch is embaressing!


Oh, why switch Parties, when one tells me I have to vote a certain way and for a certain person!

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by justamom
Actually, I had just read a post in another thread that got me going so my response bled into this one...Big no-no! Of course he is. Did not mean to offend.

No offense taken JAM!!

[damasa]

Originally posted by justamom




So much for hypothetical...

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Oh it is still about the hypothetical...it hasn't gone anywhere. I didn't assume antyhign about you but there seemed to be a difference in what Honeychile was talking about and what you had stated.

[justamom]

Had to get it all clear in my brain-

Citizenship through parents

LAST UPDATE: 6/17/2003 4:48:27 PM



If you were born in the United States or both of your parents are American citizens and you’ve been living in the United States, the laws make it quite clear that you’re automatically granted American citizenship. However, if you were born abroad or your parents are naturalized citizens, the laws that determine whether or not you can acquire citizenship through your parents are more complex. To determine which law affects your citizenship status, you must apply the law that’s passed immediately prior to your birth date. For example, if you were born in 1980, you must adhere to the amendment passed in 1978 and satisfy all the requirements that the amendment asks for. One of the requirements you may be required to meet is a residency requirement. This requirement will usually depend on whether one or both of your parents were U.S. citizens at the time of your birth. If you were born abroad and only one of your parents was an American citizen at the time of your birth, the citizen parent must meet a residency requirement and live in the United States for a certain period of time in order to pass on citizenship to a child. In some instances, you may also have to fulfill a residency requirement to keep from losing your citizenship. As stated before, the residency requirement that your parent or you must meet will depend on the existing law at time of your birth. If you were born to naturalized parents, the laws automatically grant citizenship to you, provided you were under 18 years old and had a green card at the time your parents’ naturalization took place. Some people with naturalized parents mistakenly think that they’re not citizens because they, themselves, never took part in a naturalization interview and ceremony. Keep in mind, however, that the laws on automatic naturalization of children have also varied over the years. As a result, you must adhere to the laws that existed when your parents’ naturalization took place. Generally, if there’s a possibility that someone in your direct line of ancestry is a U.S. citizen or naturalized citizen, it can be well worth your time and effort to explore the laws in effect on you and your ancestors’ date of birth. It may be that you’re already a U.S. citizen and don’t know it.

I'm still with honeychile!

...did Monaco care about Grace Kelly? How about Jordan and Lisa Halaby?hmmmmmm Maybe they are more open minded than I am...

[Kevin]

If I thought the libertarian party was anything more than an interesting diversion, I'd switch.

[CarolinaDG]

Originally posted by ktsnake
If I thought the libertarian party was anything more than an interesting diversion, I'd switch.

Yeah, it's unfortunate that a vote for libertarian is a vote for Bush... If you like Nadar best (and yes, I know he's Green Party) but would rather have Gore than Bush, do you vote for Nadar or vote for Gore???

That said, I'm still a democrat all the way. I like Kerry/Edwards and hope that Kerry will select Edwards as his VP. *fingers crossed*

On an off note, I do think it is a shame that democrats are running on the campaign of "Anybody but Bush." I mean, I don't like the guy, either, but it's a shame that in order to win we can't support our own president. I wish it was more friendly, like, "Bush is a great guy and all, but we just think we're better." Shameful.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by CarolinaDG

On an off note, I do think it is a shame that democrats are running on the campaign of "Anybody but Bush." I mean, I don't like the guy, either, but it's a shame that in order to win we can't support our own president. I wish it was more friendly, like, "Bush is a great guy and all, but we just think we're better." Shameful.

IMHO, your post shows an inordinate amount of class! I was definitely going to be torn if Edwards had won the nomination.

[AlphaGamDiva]

Originally posted by CarolinaDG

On an off note, I do think it is a shame that democrats are running on the campaign of "Anybody but Bush." I mean, I don't like the guy, either, but it's a shame that in order to win we can't support our own president. I wish it was more friendly, like, "Bush is a great guy and all, but we just think we're better." Shameful.

yeah, i think it's weird that dems are about who they think can beat Bush (meaning that if they sought out a man/woman who knew the issues and represented dem ideals, they would do better than just seeking out someone they thinkcan beat w). i know that this election will be a tough one for my boy w.....but, and maybe this is just me, i don't see the logic in thinking that specifically kerry is the man who can beat him. i don't see how he's "the one".....he's wishy-washy, his wife isn't full-out "American" (and this will cause some issues, i think, to some ppl...not all, obviously, but to some.....me not liking her has nothing to do with where she's from.....i think she's just as wishy-washy as he is....switching parties just so she "can vote" for him.....uh....what?....anyway....), he just doesn't seem like a strong candidate to me.....he's got $$, or she's got money--whichever-- fo'sho....but is that enough? i wasn't impressed with him watching the debates......everyone made him out to be the best thing since JFK....and....not so much. he's got the personality of dole....and we all know how that turned out. (however, dole is an extremely hilarious man....just during those elections.....he was horribly bland...you get the point). hang on...i'l' start another thread.....

to switch parties? was that the question? whoops.

uh....thinking that hell would have to freeze over and that ideals would switch.....

i don't see the logic in thinking that specifically kerry is the man who can beat him. i don't see how he's "the one".....he's wishy-washy

I've heard that the best presidential debate would be Kerry v. Kerry!

[AOIIBrandi]

I would switch if there was a 3rd party that was viable. Basically meaning that the US went to more of a 3 party system and that voting with the 3rd party actually resulted in a presidential candidate being elected.

That said the politics would have to be a mix...I'm liberal on things like abortion, gay rights, 1st ammendment (I have a live and let live mentality)...but conservative when it comes to money, government programs, death penalty...

[justamom]

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
I've heard that the best presidential debate would be Kerry v. Kerry!

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
I've heard that the best presidential debate would be Kerry v. Kerry!

While he's doing that, Bush can teach us a math class. I won't even need my contacts since it'll be fuzzy.

[justamom]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
While he's doing that, Bush can teach us a math class. I won't even need my contacts since it'll be fuzzy.

...and it's another good one! LOL!