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[decadence]

Originally posted by James: Thats not true loyalty. Loyalty is correct action in the face of temptation. Without temptation there is no loyalty. IF the only reason your SO isn't screwing others is because he/she doesn't have the chance .. . well that might not be the best basis to have a relationship.

If a SO wants to be with others then they should end the relationship and then they'll be free to screw others as much as he/she wants.

[James]

Yes but you are arguing both sides. We are only talking about the person who is not in the committed relationship.

Originally posted by decadence
If a SO wants to be with others then they should end the relationship and then they'll be free to screw others as much as he/she wants.

[decadence]

It is one side - if cheating is not okay then encouraging/advocating/facilitating it is not okay.

[James]

Ok, well to twist it alittle bit . . the person who gets cheated with is actually a victim.

If the cheater would just keep their legs crossed they wouldn't have drawn their partner into the web of deceipt you are alluding to . . This still brings the onus back on the cheater.

Originally posted by decadence
It is one side - if cheating is not okay then encouraging/advocating/facilitating it is not okay.

[KillarneyRose]

Originally posted by decadence
Obviously the truth is painful; given the name-calling. If you think cheating on a partner/sleeping or whatever with someone who's married or in a relationship is perectly okay then fine - I don't and won't so lets quit this pointless exchange.

I don't know what you mean by "the truth", exactly, but I will hazard a guess and say you think I called you a sanctimonious turd because I am a cheating, brazen hussy and you hit me where it hurt when you sarcastically called into question my sense of ethics. In truth, I called you a sanctimonious turd because you came off as one in your post. Nothing more, nothing less....so that's settled.

I can agree to disagree with you and others who feel the same way you do. It's a free country afterall! I just don't understand why some folks are so adverse to the concept of married people taking it upon themselves to observe their wedding vows. I was taught to take responsibility for myself and my actions and not to blame others when I screw up. I've always lived by that and always will. Must be the Republican in me

But, like you said, neither one of us is gonna change our minds so I guess that's that

[decadence]

...I called you a sanctimonious turd [added: I think] you came off as one in your post. ....so that's settled.

It really isn't possible for you to comment maturely and without namecalling is it (rhetorical)?

I just don't understand why some folks are so adverse to the concept of married people taking it upon themselves to observe their wedding vows. I was taught to take responsibility for myself and my actions and not to blame others when I screw up.

Nobody said those in relationships who are sleeping around are not at fault or that they or others should look to blame the cheatee for that. The argument was BOTH they and those who without conscience give them the body to cheat with and facilitate their cheating and the destruction of relationships are at fault.

If people wish to commend or condone sleeping with people married to (or in a relationship with) someone else, a lot of people will find that "unfortunate" - some might not. Those doing it either do not know the difference between right and wrong period or have long since decided to ignore it. Some people just want to seek the truth and always defend it, to act with integrity and some don't.
I just think being unfaithful if you're in a relationship is not a positive thing and nor is being a homewrecker / contributor to destruction of a relationship.

[James]

Decadence, I find your posts on this topic to be so emotional and without much sense that I am going to go out and deliberately seduce at least two women that are taken, preferably married or engaged.

And it won't be my fault, your emotionally driven obstinence will be directly responsible for the downfall of their relationships.

I hope you are happy now.

Originally posted by decadence
It really isn't possible for you to comment maturely and without namecalling is it (rhetorical)?

Nobody said those in relationships who are sleeping around are not at fault or that they or others should look to blame the cheatee for that. The argument was BOTH they and those who without conscience give them the body to cheat with and facilitate their cheating and the destruction of relationships are at fault.

If people wish to commend or condone sleeping with people married to (or in a relationship with) someone else, a lot of people will find that "unfortunate" - some might not. Those doing it either do not know the difference between right and wrong period or have long since decided to ignore it. Some people just want to seek the truth and always defend it, to act with integrity and some don't.
I just think being unfaithful if you're in a relationship is not a positive thing and nor is being a homewrecker / contributor to destruction of a relationship.

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Shootin guns after dark
drivin fast as I can
have myself a champagne jam
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[CC1GC]

Originally posted by James
Decadence, I find your posts on this topic to be so emotional and without much sense that I am going to go out and deliberately seduce at least two women that are taken, preferably married or engaged.

I knew it, James is the MILF Hunter!

[Rudey]

Originally posted by CC1GC
I knew it, James is the MILF Hunter!

The only way most of those girls on that site would be MILFs is if they got knocked up at the primne age of 15.

-Rudey

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by sageofages
I never thought I would agree with you on anything Rudey, man...but in this case you are in the right!

Cosign!!!!

[KillarneyRose]

Originally posted by decadence
It really isn't possible for you to comment maturely and without namecalling is it (rhetorical)?

Nobody said those in relationships who are sleeping around are not at fault or that they or others should look to blame the cheatee for that. The argument was BOTH they and those who without conscience give them the body to cheat with and facilitate their cheating and the destruction of relationships are at fault.

If people wish to commend or condone sleeping with people married to (or in a relationship with) someone else, a lot of people will find that "unfortunate" - some might not. Those doing it either do not know the difference between right and wrong period or have long since decided to ignore it. Some people just want to seek the truth and always defend it, to act with integrity and some don't.
I just think being unfaithful if you're in a relationship is not a positive thing and nor is being a homewrecker / contributor to destruction of a relationship.

Wowza! This whole topic really hits home with you, doesn't it? I am starting to realize that this particular subject is intensely personal for you. I apologize for upsetting you. Please believe whatever you need to in order to deal with whatever has happened in your life that has made you so hyper-sensitive where this subject is concerned. I'm sure it wasn't totally her fault. Some mean cheatin' person came alone and contributed to the destruction of the relationship. Really.


Since you're hurting already, that's all I have to say about the subject.

-30-

[CC1GC]

Originally posted by Rudey
The only way most of those girls on that site would be MILFs is if they got knocked up at the primne age of 15.

-Rudey

And the only way a guy like James could be a MILF hunter would be if he worked at a retirement home.