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DeltAlum · #46 10-19-2003, 11:31 PM

Well, interesting things happen when I'm away from GC for a few hours.

So, let's see if I'm understanding the original topic of the thread. Is it that since some people seem to get away with breaking the rules, we all should?

Or, is it that many would like to see the rules more strictly enforced? That would take a large percentage of the posts in the entire forum offline because of sexual conotation. (Yes, that is in the rules)

Maybe it's that everyone who disagrees with me (the universal me) should be banned -- and every post I don't agree with should be deleted. That would shorten the forum and save a whole lot of disk space.

How about, if you know the right computer tricks, you can beat the system?

Here's my take on this:

Anything without rules results in chaos. But, rules can be interpreted and, hopefully, liberally (no, I don't mean that politically) enough to allow us to all act like the adults we think we are.

The thing that I dislike most is any kind of uncalled for personal attack. If I ever get to the point of recommending someone is banned, that will be the reason.

That can be difficult and I have been guilty myself in retaliation, but if we really are adults, we can probably succeed.

decadence · #47 10-19-2003, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream: decadence...your posts ... I tend to skip over .. including the one is this thread

okay with me

Peaches-n-Cream · #48 10-19-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by decadence
okay with me

I read this post because it was short and to the point. Good job.

PM_Mama00 · #49 10-19-2003, 11:59 PM

Dec... seriously yo... I think a lot of people skip over your novel-like posts.

And I kinda agree and disagree on the topic. People like Sh80 who come "clean" so to speak, I think it's awesome that they come back and become great members of GC. I wasn't around for Sh80, but I know her posts are cool now.

On the other hand... Yeah I think it's ridiculous that people keep gettin banned, then come back, and get banned again.

I think it's even more ridiculous that there was an outburst of multi-personality-names (or whatever you would call it).

What the trukk happened to TheGrapist!???

DeltAlum · #50 10-20-2003, 12:59 AM

This isn't English 101. Decadence at least writes in sentences and understands capitalization and punctuation.

If you object to reading that much, don't. Buy the Cliffs Notes or whatever.

There's a difference between content and style. You decide which is most important and read what you feel is important.

AXJules · #51 10-20-2003, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
ummmm...... yeah..... like you've never made an "attack" uncalled for. What was said was certainly less insulting than your last post in the Random thread:

This is actually a really good point.

But besides that, I see it like this: people type whatever they want. If it's bad, it gets erased. If its repeatedly offensive and the right people complain, they're rerouted (sorry no one on this site is banned) until they rack their brains for a newer, cooler name and someone else to harass on GC. If they continue to be an idiot, the process continues.

Yes, talking about things would probably get some stuff resolved. Unfortunately that is something most people here do not want to do. It took me 4 months to get someone to notice that a certain mod was actually someone's service fraternity sister with a different name.....

One other thing- from what I understand it's not really by choice that people aren't concretely banned- correct me if I'm wrong but I thought John couldn't ban IP addresses, meaning someone on the same computer can keep coming back again and again. If that's true, there's really nothing he can do.

Rudey · #52 10-20-2003, 02:44 AM

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Originally posted by decadence
Au contraire. There are Rules and they are implemented. That's mainly why threads get removed, edited, etc (either because in themselves they break the rules or they're deleted to prevent the thread degenerating further). I wonder with regret how much of your post is honest frustration and how much is a pointed effort to 'stir things up'?

To make a comment (opinion), I do have a idea who you're talking about as you started this thread; as you've mentioned him vendetta style in multiple threads. I can't help but think this if mentioned at all should be kept off the board via PMs toward the powers that be and also (believing I know whom you're talking about) I haven't seen ANY posts from this screenname any more objectionable than posts a massive list of other GC'ers might (and do) make. But you do not bay for their blood nor call for action against other current users who have perhaps been banned (I can think of a few) .
I see many posts which are questionable... by many users. Often those users complain vehemently at other users for their posts; it does make me think 'people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'.

As John Hammell once said, re the site rules 'The site rules are not that difficult to understand, and we don't even enforce some of the rules strictly since this is a site for adults which is taken into consideration'. Contrary to what some people think the members (as opposed to moderators/administrators) do not call all the shots and John is not "at their mercy".
There are bans by username, email address, even IP address/range. Each has advantages & disadvantages. There are even add-ons (hacks) for the bulletin board software which will add a member to everyone's ignore list so s/he'll post away invisible to all others except him/her plus admins and mods and no one will see him/her. To the best of my knowledge, this forum doesn't use an add-on code hacks but even without those there's a lot that can be done. So... don't push the powers that be too much, they might just have an arsenal at their disposal.

As an aside (purely in interests of debate), in the case of genuine trolls (which I wouldn't really say this person is). Some forums do this - First time: they ban 'em. Second Time: They mass delete their posts. They'll get a simple email explaining that, while it may have taken them several hours to generate their 96 posts, it took the system 30 seconds to delete every word they ever typed. This tends to take the wind out of their sails. This conveys to the problem member that dealing with trolls is a simple exercise in the normal admin duties.

In the ChitChat forum the Rules on the first page do suggest putting someone on ignore whom you dislike. I still think this is the best idea. I have one or two people on ignore myself. Think back to when you'd "Ring and Run" on someone's door. If no one came to the door, you wouldn't hit that house again. But when someone came to the door and started screaming at you.... well, 'Hey, that was fun, let's do it again' ?

That'll be the Rules being implemented.

It's about 2:30AM and I just got home and loved the Yankees game. The last thing I will do is read volume A of the Encylopedia Britannica.

-Rudey
--So here's a NY style slice of "shut the hell up"!

Imthachamp · #53 10-20-2003, 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by AXJules

But besides that, I see it like this: people type whatever they want. If it's bad, it gets erased. If its repeatedly offensive and the right people complain, they're rerouted (sorry no one on this site is banned) until they rack their brains for a newer, cooler name and someone else to harass on GC. If they continue to be an idiot, the process continues.

i like when people use the word "harassed". how can someone do that on a message board...? especially a board with an IGNORE feature.

and yes, people are banned. i was gone for about 8 months until i asked john if i could come back.

did i come back during that time? nope.

did i create a new name in that time? nope.

i think you shoulda got a temporary ban when you flipped out on me calling me "piece of **it" and "f this and that".

anyhow, you know whats alot more pathetic then coming back over and over on a message board...? when certain users go to exotic places...uhh let's just say cancun...and hook up with other gc'ers. thats just CRAZY!

Rudey · #54 10-20-2003, 02:52 AM

I feel like a peacemaker between the bloods and the crips. Can we seriously put aside all other arguments and realize there is just one super annoying prick on this forum who we all want to punch in the larynx?

And why was my post in "Random" deleted? What was not true about what I'd written? This kid is worse than hunts point trash. I can't even stand reading the crap he writes anymore and putting him on ignore didn't help since people quote his posts. If you seriously find that crap he writes funny, you've got the IQ of a toaster. So why don't you mods contact John and have him take an extra 10 seconds out of his day to ban him and to take another 10 seconds out of every day for each new username that comes up.

-Rudey
--So easy.

AXJules · #55 10-20-2003, 02:55 AM

Edited to add- this is to Imthechamp-

Let me first say that I think this belongs in PM's, but let's see how long we can keep this civil.

You can harass on a message board. Look, I used to think you were funny, then I felt like you crossed the line. Even if I ignored you, I had 15 pms from people telling me all the crap you were saying about me hooking up with people (totally untrue) and then going to other threads and telling people I take medication. I asked you to stop. You didn't. I pmmed mods and John, and aside from deleting what you wrote, nothing was done.

I click in another thread and there's more of the same crap.

Look dude, it takes a lot to piss me off. I am one of the most sarcastic people here. Calling me a whore, however, is not something I'm going to tolerate, especially when I know you're just making up things that people will believe. I am not going to say that my reaction was appropriate, but you were WAY out of line with the things you said.

I am above getting pissed at the last part of your post- I wouldn't touch James or anyone else on this board with a 40 foot pole so stop being an idiot and spreading lies. Thanks and have a fabulous nite.

P.S. Your point about coming back is what??? You're back and still acting innappropriately.

AXJules · #56 10-20-2003, 02:58 AM

What if we put a filter on this forum.....kinda like a bad word filter, except it limits sentences to nothing more than 80 words????

Decadence would still be muffeled and the rest of us would have words to spare.

Imthachamp · #57 10-20-2003, 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by AXJules
Edited to add- this is to Imthechamp-

Let me first say that I think this belongs in PM's, but let's see how long we can keep this civil.

You can harass on a message board. Look, I used to think you were funny, then I felt like you crossed the line. Even if I ignored you, I had 15 pms from people telling me all the crap you were saying about me hooking up with people (totally untrue) and then going to other threads and telling people I take medication. I asked you to stop. You didn't. I pmmed mods and John, and aside from deleting what you wrote, nothing was done.

I click in another thread and there's more of the same crap.

Look dude, it takes a lot to piss me off. I am one of the most sarcastic people here. Calling me a whore, however, is not something I'm going to tolerate, especially when I know you're just making up things that people will believe. I am not going to say that my reaction was appropriate, but you were WAY out of line with the things you said.

I am above getting pissed at the last part of your post- I wouldn't touch James or anyone else on this board with a 40 foot pole so stop being an idiot and spreading lies. Thanks and have a fabulous nite.

P.S. Your point about coming back is what??? You're back and still acting innappropriately.

i just wanna know how i harassed you? i remember saying something like "uh oh, axjules and james did the nonodance" and you flipped out. you NEVER asked me to stop. instead you started calling me asshole and piece of poopoo. if you would of asked me in a pm or whatever to STFU, i wouldn't have said anything else about it. btw i never called you a whore

i never really get pissed off at what people say on a message board (cuz im better then everyone here), but when you said i harassed you, i was like wtf?

anyhow...as for 15 people im'n you?? im pretty sure thats NOT an exagerration, because there are tons of people here with no lives and are always lookin to cause drama.

and as for me acting inappropriate...how am i??? seriously...i can't even cuss or state my opinions anymore. i used to think i was clever and witty, but now im just as bad as decadence.

this place sucks cuz people LOVE the drama and they LOVE to cause it, but when someone smashes on them, they are SOOOOO quick to hit that report button.

AXJules · #58 10-20-2003, 03:23 AM

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Originally posted by Imthachamp

this place sucks cuz people LOVE the drama and they LOVE to cause it, but when someone smashes on them, they are SOOOOO quick to hit that report button.

I completely agree with this. I think this sums up about 85% of everyone here, which is why I really only talk to a handful of people. You just can't take it seriously. You and I could possibly get along if you'd just drop this me and James crap

I have never reported anyone besides you. I don't really know how else to say that nothing fazes me, but you crossed the line. Especially when you moved it into other threads...perfect example- you knew saying that about me got us in trouble last time, yet you did it again about 4 posts above. Why? Because you love the drama too.

Not much else to say- I've never told you not to state your opinions, but for some reason you get a kick out of spreading stuff about me that isn't true, and I'm asking you to stop.

Cluey · #59 10-20-2003, 03:32 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
--So here's a NY style slice of "shut the hell up"!

I don't know why I am still up, but that just cracked me up. Thanks Rudey!

Imthachamp · #60 10-20-2003, 03:40 AM

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Originally posted by AXJules
I completely agree with this. I think this sums up about 85% of everyone here, which is why I really only talk to a handful of people. You just can't take it seriously. You and I could possibly get along if you'd just drop this me and James crap

I have never reported anyone besides you. I don't really know how else to say that nothing fazes me, but you crossed the line. Especially when you moved it into other threads...perfect example- you knew saying that about me got us in trouble last time, yet you did it again about 4 posts above. Why? Because you love the drama too.

Not much else to say- I've never told you not to state your opinions, but for some reason you get a kick out of spreading stuff about me that isn't true, and I'm asking you to stop.

dude...are you serious? like 2 days after that happened, i totally forgot about it. i honestly didnt know anything about you or james or whatever happened in cancun.

did i know it would offend you? nope

if you would of let me know somehow, i prolly would of stopped and it would of been dropped. instead, you started the name calling and i started saying you were on medication. we were both acting stupid.

am i immature? yes.

i dont care for any drama. everything i say is in an open area (like aim chats or here).

i dont go around PM'n people that you slept with soandso, or this person met that person. i leave all that crap up to firecracker and decadence.

i just dont care enough.

and i just meant that i cant even state my opinions anymore because i said women who wanted abortions should be given the death penalty and someone PM'd john and said i stated all women should be murdered.