Virgins!

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by sigmagrrl
Could it be that, for some, it's not that the virgins are annoying you, but reminding you of something you no longer have?? Maybe there's some guilt there mixed with jealousy....

YOU USED IN GENERAL SENSE, NOT ADDRESSING ANYONE PERSONALLY (stated before anyone goes into a tizzy)....

Bwwaaahahahahwwahaha!

No. I don't regret most of the things I've done in my life, and it definately includes this topic.

[smiley21]

Originally posted by sigmagrrl
Could it be that, for some, it's not that the virgins are annoying you, but reminding you of something you no longer have?? Maybe there's some guilt there mixed with jealousy....

YOU USED IN GENERAL SENSE, NOT ADDRESSING ANYONE PERSONALLY (stated before anyone goes into a tizzy)....

i have no regrets whatsoever

[James]

So does Condoms . . .

Originally posted by MTSUGURL
That commitment has kept a lot of these kids out of situations that would've resulted in broken hearts, disease, pregnancy, etc.

[smiley21]

Originally posted by James
So does Condoms . . .

oh brother, do we have to school you again? since when does condoms protect as well as abstinence? duh

[bethany1982]

Originally posted by James
So does Condoms . . .

Condoms may do a decent job in the disease and pregnancy categories, but I don’t think they help much in the broken heart category. At least, not when it comes to the relationship itself.

[Rudey]

I like virgins.

-Rudey
--And none virgins too, except for the ones that have done it with so many dudes that an Abrams tank could stroll on through without any problem.

[James]

I don't know . . . romantic pen-pals get heart broken and thats about as abstinent as you can get.

You are supposed to get your heart broken. ITs a normal process. I promise it won't kill you.

"There's more room in a broken heart" --- Carly Simon

Originally posted by bethany1982
Condoms may do a decent job in the disease and pregnancy categories, but I don’t think they help much in the broken heart category. At least, not when it comes to the relationship itself.

Even though I am a virgin, sex is a form of high-level intimacy and most who have sex, do it because they really love/like his or her partner. Since you're performing on a high-level of intimacy there's more of a chance of a bigger heartbreak. I have HAD 2 heartbreaks in my life, both with people I thought it was "going to last forever." I think I would've been more heartbroken if I had had sex with them. High-level intimacy = High-level heartbreak. Also, sex is a major responsibility and you have (or should be) to be a very mature person to have sex. Sex can lead to big things. Condoms can break (and have been known to) and birth control has been known to NOT work.

[MereMere21]

like I said in the Jessica Simpson post - kudos for all the v-squad members, but please keep it to your self!

I guess I'm old fashioned like that, but I don't believe discussing any hyman issues with anyone other than best friends and MAYBE family. It would be the same as running around saying you have an STD or something - thats how it comes off to me - like "who wants to know that??"

Just like you made a choice to stay one, I made a choice to not to. Doesn't mean you are better than me, just means you made a different choice than me. (none of this is directed at anyone on here, just been my experience with the "open" virgins)

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by MTSUGURL
Wow, talk about generalizing... it's all over this thread.

I am an absitinence teacher for the crisis pregnancy center in my county, and I thank God ever day that some teenagers are signing those little pieces of paper that some of you are rolling your eyes at. That commitment has kept a lot of these kids out of situations that would've resulted in broken hearts, disease, pregnancy, etc. If you hate it so much when people ridicule you for your choices, why are you belittling and ridiculing theirs?

I don't think virginity pledges are the answer. If someone is committed to remaining a virgin until marriage they're going to do it regardless of a piece of paper, and if they're not, their "pledge" won't make a bit of difference. Studies have shown that those who sign pledges are more likely to delay sex until they're older than their peers (which is great) but no more likely to remain virgins until marriage than those who don't sign pledges, and some studies have shown that they are much LESS likely to use protection when they eventually do have sex.

Furthermore -- not having sex doesn't save you from heartbreak. In fact, it may lead to more issues in a relationship than the actually having sex does (I speak from experience). And like James said -- we're human! Our hearts were meant to be broken. That's how we learn.

Don't get me wrong. I think virginity is great. I was an older than average when I lost my virginity, for some of the reasons listed in this thread (not the "couldn't get any" reason, fortunately ). But a lot of programs that push abstinence ignore the reality that kids are going to have sex at some point, be it now or later, and they need to be prepared. Too many programs are too idealistic in thinking that virginity pledges are going to work 100% of the time. But they don't. Kids who are committed to abstinence need to be taught the same things that kids who are having sex are taught -- because someday they WILL have to face the same situations.

[absolutuscchick]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
But a lot of programs that push abstinence ignore the reality that kids are going to have sex at some point, be it now or later, and they need to be prepared. Too many programs are too idealistic in thinking that virginity pledges are going to work 100% of the time. But they don't. Kids who are committed to abstinence need to be taught the same things that kids who are having sex are taught -- because someday they WILL have to face the same situations.

I agree 100% with you. Even if someone isnt having sex now, they should know all about things like STDs, birth control, etc. so that WHEN they do lose it they are prepared

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by MTSUGURL
Wow, talk about generalizing... it's all over this thread.

I am an absitinence teacher for the crisis pregnancy center in my county, and I thank God ever day that some teenagers are signing those little pieces of paper that some of you are rolling your eyes at. That commitment has kept a lot of these kids out of situations that would've resulted in broken hearts, disease, pregnancy, etc. If you hate it so much when people ridicule you for your choices, why are you belittling and ridiculing theirs?

Well, if I still knew where my True Love Waits card was, I would send it back saying "Oops." I joined when I was reallly young. I don't think it did anything to keep me abstinent and I also think I became sexually active at the time that was right for me.

Semi-related: I think a big reason abstinence only programs aren't very successful is that they have such a religious emphasis that a lot of people are turned off by them.

[bethany1982]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Too many programs are too idealistic in thinking that virginity pledges are going to work 100% of the time. But they don't. Kids who are committed to abstinence need to be taught the same things that kids who are having sex are taught -- because someday they WILL have to face the same situations.

That's true for all sex ed programs. That's why we need to teach every angle. Abstinence alone is not the answer, but it has its place.

[Optimist Prime]

virgin girl would cool if I was her first. If she's trying to stay that way I have no time for her.

[The1calledTKE]

I think most people that say they are virgins are actually this,

www.technicalvirgin.com