Rachel Corrie Cartoon Controversy

[Rudey]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
I think that the difference between the 9/11 suicide bombers and Rachel Corrie is that Rachel didn't kill anyone but herself. And that's a big difference.

How much do you know about this Rachel Corrie exactly? Honestly, not much. You know very little about the "organization" she was involved with. I was going to write the details out but my friend Raphael has written rather eloquently on this and it will save me time:

Rachel Corrie was in the Palestinian territories as a member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), a Palestinian-led self-styled "peace" movement ostensibly devoted to non-violent action against what it terms "illegal Israeli occupation forces and policies."

But whatever the ISM's non-violent credo, the organization openly sympathizes with the Palestinian campaign of terror against Israeli civilians to the point where the organization routinely provides moral and material support to the families of suicide bombers, with some members even "spending the night" at their houses. The ISM systematically refuses to condemn Palestinian violence even as it rails against Israeli efforts to curb it, displaying a kind moral myopia that has earned it the nickname "Idiots Supporting Monsters."

Most disturbingly, the two British suicide bombers, who murdered three people in cold blood at Mike's Place in April, were known to ISM circles in Rafah, having even attended a memorial service for Rachel Corrie at the very spot where she died before setting off on their murderous mission to Tel Aviv.

Of course, the ISM's particularly vicious brand of political naivete espoused by Rachel Corrie did not warrant her death, but it does go a long way towards explaining what she might have been doing throwing herself under a Israeli bulldozer trying to demolish smugglers' tunnels. Seen in this light, the unfortunate death of a misguided "peace" activist cannot be seen as an example of Israeli cowardice and cruelty, but rather as a symbol of the selective blindness that afflicts many on both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian debate. What is needed is not simply restraint, but good faith dialogue, and, above all, an honest examination of the facts.

-Rudey
--Peace activist my ass.

[sugar and spice]

Regardless, did she kill anyone but herself?

If not, then she does not deserve to be placed in the same tier as the suicide bombers.

She may very well be politically misguided, but there is a big difference between sympathizing with the suicide bombers and being one yourself.

Just sayin'.

[RUgreek]

nobody is saying she is in the same tier as a suicide bomber, I was just pointing out that they are a group who also die for what they believe in, and their beliefs are very misguided as well.

This person decided to take her brainwashed beliefs and stand in front of a bulldozer as it was tearing down a house. I'm sure she was encouraged by her peace group friends ("Don't worry, they have to stop") and now she has no voice and it had no effect on her cause.

It's not stupid to want peace, but it is defeinitely crossing the line when you create a dangerous situation that puts life at risk. The difference is she didn't cause anyone else to be injured, but no one knows if she was working with the suicide bombers.

She was protecting one of their homes, and distracting the bulldozers is just one of many tactics to make the military vulnerable to an attack. Don't think for a second that these terrorists wouldn't hesitate for a second to use an american peace activist as a sacrifice to damage the image of Israel.

Who knows what she was thinking, but she still had no business being there and lost her life for being reckless.

[enlightenment06]

Since we DON'T know all the facts it would be wrong to charge Rachel Corrie as guilty when we don't even know that to be the case. I feel like some people here are making her out to be a terrorist when that isn't a fair assumption.

Either way, the cartoon is wack

[KillarneyRose]

Food for Thought...

Although we, obviously, will never know what Ms. Corrie was thinking when she decided to put herself between the bulldozer and the house that was about to be razed, don't you all think that it surely had to have crossed her mind that she might get crushed to death in doing so?

I don't want to sound crass, but I wouldn't do what she did unless I had come to terms that I just might not walk away from the confrontation. It sounds like her collegues never took this possibility into account, though, and are acting like they're all surprised.

[sugar and spice]

I'm assuming she took into account the idea that the bulldozer might not stop. You'd have to be pretty short-sighted to, at the very least, not even have it cross your mind.

I think her colleagues are surprised because there is a very big difference between her death in theory and her death in reality. Every death is surprising to an extent, even if you've been anticipating it for months or years.

[enlightenment06]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
I'm assuming she took into account the idea that the bulldozer might not stop. You'd have to be pretty short-sighted to, at the very least, not even have it cross your mind.

I think her colleagues are surprised because there is a very big difference between her death in theory and her death in reality. Every death is surprising to an extent, even if you've been anticipating it for months or years.

Ditto