UF Sigma Chi's could be in trouble - Page 4

kdonline · #46 10-30-2002, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by UFRushee05
the girls in the house thought it was pretty funny according to my friends in the house. It's all in good fun, this is a CRAZY event!

Biker Bash isn't anything new. Sigma Chi did it in the 80s too.

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And I really don't think the girls that posed the complaints are as mad about the actual event or the fact that they got caught doing this stuff. It's really not as bad as it sounds but it is defintely not for the weak at heart!

Oh really? Those pictures weren't bad enough?

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A more serious crime..let's see, how about being raped in front of your sorority house? Or even better, in front of a fraternity house!? It was said to have happened at Stetson University...Now that's the type of behavior a charter should be pulled for, not stupid pranks.

FYI - I edited my comment to state what I really meant: it's bad enough to be photographed with a dildo in your mouth.

And unfortunately, rapes happen all too often at college campuses. Even at UF. Check the Alligator archives.

(Gee, you think this kind of behavior & attitude PREVENTS girls from being raped?!)

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I just feel like the fraternity is getting in trouble for something that they actually advertised pretty well at announcing as to what would happen at the event... Not that it SHOULD happen, but they never lied about what WOULD happen...They were very up front about the craziness, at least to my knowledge...

No, the fraternity is out of hand. They are not only destroying their reputation, but UF's as well.

I don't like seeing anything negative on the news about my alma mater - and I esp. don't like to see anything negative about the greek system. Something like this should have never been allowed to happen.

You see, UFRushee05, when you are an alumna of a school/organization, and you care enough to contribute financially, openly recruit for the school (not just for a sorority), and continue to support the school many many years after you've graduated, you expect the school to maintain a certain amount of dignity. This isn't asking for much.

And don't even get me started on the after effects of humiliation. You'd be surprised how many women are in therapy because of their college experiences.

I'm not kidding.

I'm not trying to discourage partying it up. There should be limits.

I just think that if someone really cares about you, they wouldn't allow you to be humiliated.

kddani · #47 10-30-2002, 09:51 PM

amen annie!

you can always say things so well.

must be that journalism background coming out

kdonline · #48 10-30-2002, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
amen annie!

you can always say things so well.

must be that journalism background coming out

LOL...Thanks! Actually, it was the solid education I received at UF!

But in all honesty, I'm just a wise old soul who has done a lot and seen a lot....and just got rid of all the t-shirts a few months ago.

Don't worry Dani - in 10 years, you'll be spouting off just like me (if not a few yrs sooner) - to younguns who were born in 1997 or so..

ROWDYsister · #49 10-30-2002, 10:47 PM

I went on Biker Bash this year b/c my friend in Theta set me up with her boyfriend's brother.

She wasn't announced to b/c she had work and I wasn't announced to because I didn't know him that well so there was no way in hell I was going to deal with that.

It's a tradition. They do it to every sorority girl who is invited to go. They show up at the sorority house, yell out obscenities, dump things on the girls, awful things. It's not just Theta. One year, one of my sisters' boyfriends poured a fifth of bourbon over her head as they made out. Last year another sister got live mice thrown on her. I can't explain why they put up with this bs...it's just the way it is.

The reason Theta is getting called out for this isn't because they got mad, but because their new alum advisor was outraged by the guys and the way the girls were "unsisterly" by encouraging each other to be announced to.

It's the craziest party EVER (trust me) but they're good guys. It's just that when Biker Bash rolls around, things get way sketchy.

ps: sorry I didn't sort out through all the responses to this, but I had to put my two cents in. Greek life at UF is cracking down and it's depressing me.

curlygirly · #50 10-30-2002, 10:56 PM

Just because it's a tradition, doesn't make it right. Go ahead and get crap thrown on you, take dirty pics, do what you like... but on your own time, and not in the name of a 'Greek' tradition. All that does is make the Greek community look bad. I know that if my parents somehow found out about this...they'd question me being in a sorority, if what they read about the system is negative.

We should all do our best in avoiding negative press. What you do on your time is your business, what you do on Greek time becomes everyone's business Yeah, some people think it's funny... but now people who hear about it think that "all XYZ's do this" or "That's all that greeks do...", etc.

What they tell us is....When you're on 'Kappa time' you act like 'Kappa ladies'!

ROWDYsister · #51 10-30-2002, 11:07 PM

It never used to be such a big deal b/c the girls who were announced to consented to it and that was the end of that. Their sisters knew and Sigma Chi knew and that was about it. The other fraternities didn't care about someone else's announcing. Non-Greeks had no idea. It's just all blowing up right now b/c it's in the spotlight.

meliss · #52 10-30-2002, 11:15 PM

I agree with UFRushee05....

I think it sounds crazy and fun, and the girls WANT to go, and they know what it entails. If I were them I really wouldn't worry about embarrasing the alumni. They had thier fun in college too and no one told them what to do.

No one usually likes what I have to say about college students doing what they please without having to worry about the high school-ish things like thier "reputation." Not to mention now that we are in college, we have to worry about everyone-we-have-ever-associated-with's reputation.

GET OVER IT.

Sorry, have a nice night

UFRushee05 · #53 10-30-2002, 11:39 PM

KDOnline:
I wasn't saying the pictures weren't bad enough..I was saying that...Yes, these pictures have come into the spotlight and it does look "bad" for the Greek community, but it's not as bad as doing something horrible like rape etc. This is more of a prank than a crime. Do you see what I mean>?

And I know that rapes happen at UF, I wasn't saying that they didn't, I was just referring to the most recent one I knew of, which was at Stetson where one of my best friends is a Tri-Delt.

And I never said that this type of behavior prevents rapes...

I understand you're anger about these events as an alumni who gives money and free-time to your former college, but in all fairness there are a lot of activities that go on in sororities, KD included, and the rest of the school...IE drinking and other things that I won't name so I don't stir up anyone else., that you probably wouldn't be too happy about..... I just think that everyone is blaming Sigma Chi when all they did was have their annual event, slightly toned down from last year, and have gotten into a lot of trouble for pulling some silly pranks that most of the girls were well aware of in the beginning. I guess I think it is sort of like going to a haunted house and then coming out of it all mad because you got scared...

Yes, you went to school here once and I'm sure there are a few things you did in the spirit of "just being in college and free to do what you want!" But maybe I'm wrong, and if I am , then sorry for assuming...because you know what assuming can do

Seriously though, these girls knew what they were getting into. Sigma Chi's are so great here at UF. They are very sweet and just all around awesome guys who once a year like to get down and dirty and go a little crazy. It's like Halloween for them or something. And really, it's such a great party!

I am sure there are girls who go into therapy for the humiliation they experience in college...but to put this in perspective. I bet the number of girls in therapy from getting dropped from every house at rush are a lot higher than the one who go into therapy from being "humiliated" at Bikers and Babes...

I guess our opinions on what constitutes humiliation are different...I don't think getting crazy and "bobbing for dildos" as a volunteer could be all that humiliating, but as you are older and wiser...I could probably learn a thing or two from you.

I guess to sum all this up...I think college is about making mistakes and doing crazy stuff that you would never be able to get away with when you are older...I'm sorry you have had to post so much on this but I hope we can just agree to disagree because I believe the age gap might be one of the reasons for our differing opinions...

guardian_angel! · #54 10-31-2002, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by kdonline

Do you know who Libby Hoeler is? (do a google search on her to find out.)

I do and what sorority she was in to. One kinky girl. She shouldn't have made those videos for her bf. What did she expect would happen if they broke up? No suprize her sorority kicked her out. Maybe they were just jelious of her moves. I am a girl and found the vidoes funny. She must of thought she was a porn star.

Tom Earp · #55 10-31-2002, 12:13 AM

WOW, I so totally unimpressed with the actions of demmeaning of this !!!!!!!!!

This is what I alwqays wanted to happen to me or do to someone else!

I had my head half shaved in college freshman hazing not because I wanted it.

That was the last year for Hazing at NWMoSU!

A long story that I am not going to get into!

curlygirly · #56 10-31-2002, 12:29 AM

yeah...it definitely makes a big difference when it's all over the papers....and everyone is talking about it. I bet those Sigma Chi pics from the announcing have been up since the day after it happened... and now is when it's getting the most hits. But now that it IS in the papers... it makes everyone look bad... not just the girls in the pics.

Either way... to clarify... you'd never catch me doing any of that, whether or not it's in front of a camera. I just think it's gross.

Also, I think it's funny, b/c my Pi Chi was one of the girls in the pics... but then again, she is a crazy, party girl who likes to have fun!

kdonline · #57 10-31-2002, 12:44 AM

Uh - it's not an effort for me to post.

Bottom line - if/when you join a sorority, you shouldn't do anything that will embarrass your house.

If you like to suck on dildos, go ahead - do it "anonymously." Risk your own rep - not your house's.

UFRushee05 · #58 10-31-2002, 01:38 AM

KDOnline: I think you took my post the wrong way. I didn't mean it was an effort to post, I was just sorry that I wasn't clear in my first post, leading to confusion...

UF_PikePC98 · #59 10-31-2002, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by UFRushee05
KDOnline: I think you took my post the wrong way. I didn't mean it was an effort to post, I was just sorry that I wasn't clear in my first post, leading to confusion...

Don't worry chica....

She just gets her panties in a wad sometimes......

UFRushee05 · #60 10-31-2002, 02:03 AM

Thanks cutie