These Other Fake Greeks

[Zetaphied]

Let's face it, we ALL talk crap about each other at one time or another..sometimes its jokingly to a friend who happens to be in a different org other times its amongst your own sorors and frat. Heck there are folks in the same org who talk crap about each other...it seems to be human nature..people love to step on each other's necks for some reason. It's all good when its friendly rivalry..makes life interesting..Greeks aren't the only ones who do it, wars are fought because someone always thinks they are better, stronger, smarter, etc than someone else. Damn it, let's all do what our founders intended for us to do and that's serve the community and stop all this childish trash talking and finger pointing. It's tired! Who steps the best, was the first, or has the "nicest" stereotype is so far from the real issues at hand and if you spend your whole greek life exprience worrying about and talking about these simple minded issues than you don't deserve your letters because that's certainly not what they were intended for, and I'm not talking to anyone in particular but it just so happened this topic was brought up on this particular forum so since it's not the first time people have sat around wasting breath on whose who in the greek world than I felt the need to put my 1920 cents into it. We all get upset about racism and prejudice against AA's and other people of color, but we sometimes have the same ignorance's towards each other, whose slim, whose lightskinned, who has "good" hair...even going back to using paper bags to deem whose worthy to join our orgs..i mean damn if you are here for the greater good doesn't that make you worthy already....get over it people...when you die God certainly won't care if you were a alphakappaomegasigmaiota or a alphadeltazetagammarho..GEEZ!!!

[Dexter]

AMEN!!

[Texas_Dove]

Well said Soror!!!

[theo14]

Zetaphied

I feel ya, and i understand where you are coming from and your frustration...

BUT the internet and especially these forums are a chance for people to express opinions, this is your opinion I have mind and so forth. We know what our founders set out to do 70 80 and 90 years ago, but this is the present and we have to access where we are now and who we are and where we will go.....the climate of the greek envrioment was differen in the early 1900's..the greek system was not as big, black people worried about basic civil rights (pre civil rights movement), now we worry about drugs gangs and violence in our neighborhoods, so when people compare our current situation with that of the intentions our founders is not adequate.

but basically, this is a chance for opinions and concerns to be voiced... we all know there are more important things to discuss like black empowerment etc, but there are also other forums that deal with these issues, this forum has a specific topic and is a chance for people to discuss that topic.......

[theo14]

We all need to face REALITY...

realty is - the human race automatically self segregates...

-the black community we always have an issue that divides us, if its not light/dark skin, its body frame or class....when we were on plantations, it was the "house n...." vs the "field n....."
-in our motherland, several tribes are traditionally at odds with each other, it has been proven, some disputing tribes sold defeated tribes to american traders
-in the middle east, you can see it
-in other nations, its class
-you remember the caste system....

so when for everyone who thinks that we need to stop talking about our division, i beg to differ...NO WE NEED TO ADDRESS the issue and deal with it, talk about, and its only healthy and the basic of our government to express our OPINION,

[Dexter]

Theo,

Let me ask you this.......what are YOUR feelings toward other orgs? Do you socialize with different people from these other organizations? I f I were to come up to you on the street and say what's up Sigma, would you acknowledge me? If you and I were friends and an Alpha from my chapter was walking down the street doing something that is deminishing the name of Alpha, would you put him in check because you know me and so should he?

Hit me back

[Shelacious]

Originally posted by theo14
We know what our founders set out to do 70 80 and 90 years ago, but this is the present and we have to access where we are now and who we are and where we will go.....the climate of the greek envrioment was differen in the early 1900's..the greek system was not as big, black people worried about basic civil rights (pre civil rights movement), now we worry about drugs gangs and violence in our neighborhoods, so when people compare our current situation with that of the intentions our founders is not adequate.

Oh, I don't know about that. While I agree with you that it is vitally important that all organizations should take an opportunity to assess the where and how of the future of their organization, is it that our Founders' visions are not inadequate, or is it the leadership and membership of our respective organizations that has failed to fulfill the potential of the organization? Black folks were not only concerned about basic civil rights in the periods of 1906-1922. Certainly for Sigma and Zeta, we were concerned with the health and welfare of the INCLUSIVE WE. Is that need any less great now? The Founder's of Zeta laid out for us a very explicit and well-formed foundation to achieve service, scholarship, sisterly love and finer womanhood. I am sure other organizations also have a solid basis for existence. Again I ask, is it our Founders who failed us, or we who failed our Founders?

People are indeed different than they were even 30 years ago. Society is different. People's reasons for joining the "eventual Greek world" are also very different. I don't know if I can extend that to mean, though, that our Founder's visions are irrelevant.

[Zetaphied]

I do agree that we need to talk about our differences, and in some cases celebrate them. But such irrelevant issues such as who has the fattest girls, the most homosexual members, the darkest skin members, the cutest, the prettiest, the lightest, etc. is such bull crap and there is no need in my opinion for grown educated, degree owning and degree seeking individuals to be wasting their breaths battling, and dissing each other especially on a public forum..to the point sometimes that the moderators have to step in and close a forum. At the end of the day it's the work you put in, no matter what capacity you serve your community either through individual deeds or group efforts..this is what counts. We should all have enough brains to know how to pick our friends based on their character rather than their looks or other ridiculous notions. Lastly, we should all be adult enough to not go around dogging someone because they didn't choose the path that we did. No matter what organization you joined to make a difference, and even if you didn't join an org. The point is YOU ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. Maybe my even getting tired of all of this, is a wasted effort on my part like I said and frat said after me...seperatism is a part of human nature. We'll always have a reason to seperate ourselves from someone else if it isn't about race, it's about economics and so on...OH WELL (sigh) I guess ignorance is blissful for some folks.

[Dexter]

You are right Zetaphied. We need to acknowledge the differences IN OUR ORGANIZATIONS, not with the stereotypes. We have plenty of problems dealing with our culture in society as a whole. What difference does it make if I'm an Alpha and you are a Zeta? To everyone else we are either UPPITY NEGROES or College show offs in our own communities. Let's not be concerned with Letters. i'm happy that you are a zeta. In the job world that means we have a special bond being as though we are both black greeks. So you preach on sista, just keep preachin. I got yo back!

[UNIQUE97]

[i]..i mean damn if you are here for the greater good doesn't that make you worthy already....get over it people...when you die God certainly won't care if you were a alphakappaomegasigmaiota or a alphadeltazetagammarho..GEEZ!!! [/B]

Great comment Zetaphied!!




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"Greater Service, Greater Progress!"

[schizo1914]

I think skin complexion matters a hell of a lot and so does when your organization was founded...as a matter of fact, I don't want unity with any of you sorry bastards unless you're in MY FRAT! Actually I hate your punk ass unless you're in my frat AND IN MY CHAPTER!! No, no...as a matter of fact I despise unity unless you're in my frat, in my chapter, and PLEDGED ON MY LINE DAMMIT!!!!! Come to think of it, I hate most of my sands....I don't want any type of fukkin unity unless you're in my frat, in my chapter, pledged on my line, and WERE EITHER DIRECTLY IN FRONT OR IN BACK OF ME!!!!!!!!!! Yeah that's it you punk muhfuckaz!! Unless we stood next to each other for the entire time I pledged....you can take that unity crap and shove it up you're ass!


PS: if you haven't caught on to the sarcasm by now, slap yourself for being stupid!

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by schizo1914
I think skin complexion matters a hell of a lot and so does when your organization was founded...as a matter of fact, I don't want unity with any of you sorry bastards unless you're in MY FRAT! Actually I hate your punk ass unless you're in my frat AND IN MY CHAPTER!! No, no...as a matter of fact I despise unity unless you're in my frat, in my chapter, and PLEDGED ON MY LINE DAMMIT!!!!! Come to think of it, I hate most of my sands....I don't want any type of fukkin unity unless you're in my frat, in my chapter, pledged on my line, and WERE EITHER DIRECTLY IN FRONT OR IN BACK OF ME!!!!!!!!!! Yeah that's it you punk muhfuckaz!! Unless we stood next to each other for the entire time I pledged....you can take that unity crap and shove it up you're ass!


PS: if you haven't caught on to the sarcasm by now, slap yourself for being stupid!

*Slaps myself*

I actually thought you were serious for the first three sentences.

Originally posted by theo14
you know what kills me is the whole "greek unity" crap... but these are the same fake people who later in the forum, are talking shyt,

Hey
Greek Unity all the way! we gotta work together to build a name for greeks everywhere. But there's nothing wrong with a little friendly bashing. you know you're on a good level with someone if you can joke around with them.

[theo14]

You know its amazing how well educated people can totally miss a point,

I have a bachelors degree and working on my thesis in a masters program, and no matter how clear i write or speak, people still seem to misinterpret....

[theo14]

or maybe people are not LISTENING or in this case READING what ive wrote...

nevertheless, ive been in a couple of NPHC focus groups and such about this same topic, GREEK UNITY and it always comes down to the same basic thing