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Hey AXOAlum...

Was "setting a good example" in the job description for being a moderator?? I didn't think so.

[Turtlegirl]

Um since when has insulting and belittling people become funny? I'm with you Chiocutie, there's no reason for the rudeness.
This is a public website, open to anyone who wants to register. For those who have forgotten that, check the top line when you post - "Who Can Post? - Any registered users may post a reply".
There is no need to be mean to everyone who posts something you've seen before, just politely tell them and instruct them on how to do a search. We're all very impressed with everyone's ability to reach new heights of sarcasm but enough is enough.
And no, setting a good example may not be in the job description of a moderator, but it is in the "job description" of being a good Greek and just being a good person for that matter.

[mccoyred]

Well folx, if ya' cain't stan' da' HEAT, get outta da' ki'chen' !

Moving on...>>>



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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

[newbie]

I agree with you, Turtlegirl and Chiocutie. I think this has gotten a bit out of hand...enough to drive away potential new members to Greekchat and maybe Greekdom itself.

#1--I don't think anyone needs a lesson in personal ethics.

#2--Once again mccoyred, you are right.

[mgdzkm433]

1. I'm an old poster. Not been around as much lately, but I'm an OLD poster, been here for about a year and a half now. LOL

2. Searches. Helpful, maybe--if you know what you're looking for. But on the other hand, I've never used the search ONCE--AND I never realized the option was there until recently. So, in light of that, be aware that perhaps new members might not realize there IS a search, might not know HOW to search, or might not know WHAT to search.

3. MODERATORS: I'm going to step on or over the line here--but if you're a moderator--your job is to be helpful and POLITE--AND to keep the boards civil. I don't think any of the moderators should be rude or disrespectful. If someone is asking a ginuine question--either answer it if you know it--or direct them in how to use the search. There is NO REASON people should just plainly be RUDE OR MEAN to anyone.

4. If you don't like a post--i.e. "What's XXX like at your school"----DON'T ANSWER IT!!!! Geez, it's not Rocket Science! Also--if you don't like it--GET OVER IT! Why why why start WWIII over something so meaningless?

[newbie]

Mgdzkm:

About the searches...I use searches many times, but many posts are HTTP 404 Not Found--they have been deleted or moved...so sometimes searches are not at all helpful.

Newbie

[mgdzkm433]

Well there ya go! Another reason to just answer a prospectives darn question! If they do a search and it yields nothing--even if the topic has been talked about--DON'T BE RUDE!

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by Turtlegirl:
And no, setting a good example may not be in the job description of a moderator, but it is in the "job description" of being a good Greek and just being a good person for that matter.

I am so glad that everyone *thinks* they know all about me and my life. I didn't realize that using sarcasm to make a point on this little planet we call GC would negate all the things I do in my life and the lives of others to make things better for this world. If me making a few wisea$$ remarks along the way has so damaged your perception of what being greek means, then you have problems I can't even begin to name. If someones sarcasm would cause you to doubt your desire to be greek -- good! Because you don't have the faintest clue about what greek life and being a sister/brother in a bond means.

Here's a few notables for you all to sit around and discuss my qualities of "goodness" in my real life:

ARC (Assoc. for Retarded Citizens) -
Volunteer -- 14 years (here's a clue - thats HALF my age)

ARC - Family of the Year Volunteer award - 3 years running.

ARC - Volunteer of the Year award finalist - 2 years running.

Salvation Army - Volunteer 10 years

S.A. - Family of the Year Volunteer award

S.A. - After School Tutor Volunteer

Am currently seeking legal guardianship of a 44 year old woman with downs syndrome -- she has family who abandoned her to rot in a prison like institution - have worked with her for 7 years

Employee of the month -- too many times to remember in working with a state based group home for DDA clients

AXO - Service chair; Alum president; projects focused on serving the victims of domestic violence; foundation contributions

Church missions, projects, overseas missions, homeless missions, childrens missions, are you getting the idea yet?

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So please, let me know just how many warm fuzzies I need to hand out on here to make people think that *wow* you can be a really good person and still have a sense of humor in life. Yes, I do refer to the "resident psychos" because for the most part, EVERYONE on here who is a regular knows who and what I mean.

Here's a great quote for you:

"[If] you want coddling, go on a diet and hire Richard Simmons"

-Harlan Coben "Tell No One"

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So please oh please - won't you please deem me worthy of being a good person since I live and breathe every breath according to what people on this board think of me?! My goodness in my own personal life and the lives of those I work with mean nothing to me without the approval of people on this board who have been so ready to judge me in with the bad people because I am guilty of using some sarcasm. [AXO Alum breaking down into desperate sobs]

Thanks, mccoyred - to the point as usual

[This message has been edited by AXO Alum (edited May 10, 2001).]

[KABillyMac]

This is gonna be final post on this whole situation. Disclaimer before I begin: I am in no way a saint. I probably have said worse on here then most of the regulars, I just happen to be one of those kinds of people who gets something on his mind and has to give his 2 cents about it.
There is nothing wrong with bashing on this board. Especially against anti greeks who come here to pick fights with us, and usually we give it to em. Go us. Then we have the fly by nighters that come in here with uneducated comments lookin for a fight, and we are usually more than happy to give them a ear full too. Hey, to me, thats good stuff. Gotta love it when the board is jumpin with red hot folders with all of the regulars bashing on some idiot that thought they would come in here trying to get a little sideways with us.
Me personally, I dont like it when GREEKS (bigtime emphasis on that) post articles with the troubles of our fellow greeks, usually of the illegal kind, that they have so graciously retrieved from websites like, oh say, CNN.COM!!! Cmon folks, if stuff happens to other chapters around the country and it makes a nationally syndicated website like CNN.COM do we really need to bring it here for further examination. Now I can see non greeks bringing it to us. That honestly hurts us. Let a sleeping dog lie. If someone frequents these sites and sees it, hey, nothing we can do.
I have already said what I am about to say this week so bear with me or turn your comp off. New kids come to this site everyday. Potential Rushees, greenhorns, wet behind the ears, and eager to learn. Their first couple of posts are gonna be ignorant as hell (ie. What is XYZ like at ABC School) Just plain ol dumb stuff. I think that is what we are talking about in this thread. Some of you jump down their THROATS and honestly, alot of the time they dont know any better than to ask us these dumb things. There are 4 or 5 ladies I hold in very high regard on here. As far as GC goes they are powerful, respected, and influencial. After reading some of these posts, I realize that some of them are the most intolerant too. There is nothing that I can do about that. I made a bad comment against OTW this week (that I shouldnt have), becasue honestly, I view her as one of the MOST powerful and influencial on here, if I was a girl, more especially a potential rushee, it would be people like these 4 or 5 women I would turn to for advice. Provided I didnt get my head bit off. See what I am getting at. I sited an example earlier but what if one of these girls has an older brother that tells her not to rush cause he thinks sorority girls are stuck up and snobbish. Say that girl doesnt listen to her brother and she comes here and asks a simple yet beat to death question directed towards us, and one of us bits her head off. Now, where will her opinion go, and will someone step up fast enough to help her with the information she seeks. I have no more to say about it I just wanted yall to hear my side.
And yes, I know there is a thread out there containing the kind of CRAP that I hate (ie. guess what so and so chapter at so and so U. did this week, I found it on CNN) and to be honest, I just feel like Ive said so much about it that I feel like I am runnin in circles sometimes.
Conclusion: There are some very, very, very influencial people on this board. Even on a website some of you can make a diffrence in young people minds. I'm not saying that you dont do enough, but as fall rush nears, lets all be on the same team.

I didnt get to slam on that actung whatever his name was today because I designed a testing machine and it had its maiden run this mornin, by the time I got to a comp everything was locked up. We need "get out of lock and key for free cards" for the regulars so we can get in there and atleast get one or two good punches in real quick.

Thanks for readin.

[This message has been edited by KABillyMac (edited May 10, 2001).]

[Turtlegirl]

OK let me start off by saying that I do believe we could all (myself included) use a lesson in personal ethics every once in a while. I am by no means saying that I am the person to teach this lesson but I don't see any harm in a refresher course in niceness.
To AXOAlum - my original post was not directed at you, it was a general statement. If it led you to believe I was writing directly to you, perhaps that is just because the comments hit a little "too close to home." But since your comments did seem to be addressed to me (an assumption I can reasonably make since you did quote from my post in your own), I feel I should respond.
First of all, your history of community service is very impressive and something which you should be very proud of. That kind of dedication is amazing!
Secondly - no, a few sarcastic comments would not and did not deter me from going Greek. I am a proud Delta Zeta and my sisters seem to think that I know what being Greek and being a good sister means. I do think that a few too many sarcastic comments could scare new posters off of this board. If this is their first exposure to the Greek system, it could make them feel unwelcome and leave them with a bad taste about Greeks.
Lastly, I do often find humor in your sarcasm. You can be a very funny person! The only time I have a problem with sarcasm is when it is demeaning to others. There is a huge difference between funny sarcasm and intentionally insulting sarcasm.

[mgdzkm433]

Cmon folks, if stuff happens to other chapters around the country and it makes a nationally syndicated website like CNN.COM do we really need to bring it here for further examination. Now I can see non greeks bringing it to us. That honestly hurts us. Let a sleeping dog lie. If someone frequents these sites and sees it, hey, nothing we can do.

I agree that this stuff CAN hurt us, and DOES hurt us. But at the same time, we need to learn about it and discuss it and figure out ways to prevent it. It's sad, it's bad publicity, it's usually sick stuff--I wish it didn't exist. But it does, and the only way to continue the fight against the things that happen in these chapters across the country--is to EDUCATE ourselves and OTHERS. Who knows--someone might come here and say--you know, that's messed up, look at the potential of the greek system--I'm going to get involved and try to turn things around. I just don't think sweeping the bad under the rug will promote the good.

[pbpck]

Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine:
Ahem, I'm one of those "rude" people.

And I'll continue to be that way as long as people keep on posting "stupid somethings".

To earn one's respect one must also give respect, and I won't miss that opportunity to let people know that. I'll steer newcomers to what they're looking for. Oh, and Laura, I don't believe in starting new topics when it's been covered in 500 other ones. It does get exhausting when we have to answer the same questions many times.

Sorry...but that's how I work.

And if YOU don't like what I post, then YOU can drive forward. It'll take more than one post to change my attitude.

OTW,
Please, this is a greek chat...a website on the internet! The number of posts you have/length of time for which you have been registered does not give you some sort of supremecy. Usually when people post subjects that have already been discussed, it is because those previously posted topics are very outdated and people don't even look at the threads anymore. Therefore, in order to get fresh ideas from new people each day, new posts are brought to the forefront. Oh yeah...and why waste your time condescending to people if you think the thread is stupid anyway? It just shows that new topics get more responses which is what those people were looking for. I am sorry. I do not want to disrespect anyone on this board or create hostility. I also know that other people have learned some wonderful things from you, but please, step down to the level of the newcomers and realize that this is not anyone's website. This is the greek family's website and everyone who is greek on here should get the same amount of respect. I have already met some splendid people and I would like to see that continue.

Originally posted by pbpck:
OTW,
Please, this is a greek chat...a website on the internet! The number of posts you have/length of time for which you have been registered does not give you some sort of supremecy. Usually when people post subjects that have already been discussed, it is because those previously posted topics are very outdated and people don't even look at the threads anymore. Therefore, in order to get fresh ideas from new people each day, new posts are brought to the forefront. Oh yeah...and why waste your time condescending to people if you think the thread is stupid anyway? It just shows that new topics get more responses which is what those people were looking for. I am sorry. I do not want to disrespect anyone on this board or create hostility. I also know that other people have learned some wonderful things from you, but please, step down to the level of the newcomers and realize that this is not anyone's website. This is the greek family's website and everyone who is greek on here should get the same amount of respect. I have already met some splendid people and I would like to see that continue.

The number of my posts has never ever made me feel like I'm "better than" anyone on GC. Too bad you feel that way.

Point noted, pbpck...just not taken.

[SweetestDiva]

Listen. GC is, in some small way, a microcosm of real life. On a message board, a college campus, on a job... there will ALWAYS be people with varying personalities. In real life, if you don't like somebody's personality, what do you do? Most likely, you DON'T TALK TO THEM.

Just because this is a message board doesn't mean it is your responsibility to lecture individuals on what YOU feel are their faults, personality flaws, and ethical dilemmas. If someone is sarcastic by nature (pointing to myself), you saying "Sarcasm is BAD!" will not make them change any more than me making this post will change what you believe if you don't already agree. Chill.