Where Raucous Is the Norm, Bible Study

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by angels&angles

I would also like to point out that inviting people to events "they can say no to" can still be pressure. There was a girl in my sorority who constantly made pro-life events & invited me to them, even though she knew I was pro-choice. I asked her repeatedly to stop, but she didn't. Sure, it's easy for me to click "reject," but it's still pressure to continually invite me to Bible studies, Bible verse of the day, pro-choice, etc events if you know that I'm not interested.

I'm actually gonna play just for fun the other side of this. I don't believe inviting somebody to something that you can say no to is pressure. I think it was more disrespectful because you came to this person and they still kept inviting you.

Its a slippery slope sometimes and is more so case to case. I've seen both sides where somebody was not invited because the inviter assumed it would be offensive to the person only to still offend because the person wanted to at least be told about the event so they could decide whether or not they would want to go and whether or not it was offensive. Of course it wasn't so overt like pro-choice rally or I'm gonna save your soul come to Jesus meeting, but if I invite you to play Bingo at my church (I'll provide the denture creme LOL) and you say no, I shouldn't be thinking "Oh no, I hope she didn't think I was pressuring her to become a christian?"

Some things (not this article not exactly the best of examples) should not be filtered through our biases and should still be approached by actually developing a relationship and a bond. If we are truly bonded with our chapter brothers and sisters, it should never be an issue of whether or not a bible study is being held, or the Islamic members have a special place to pray to the east set aside, or the atheist do what they do. We should be bonded enough that if you invite me to your bible study and I politely decline, we still gonna work the work of our org.

Of course I'm talking as somebody from a small diverse chapter, so maybe I'm assuming too much.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

I'm actually gonna play just for fun the other side of this. I don't believe inviting somebody to something that you can say no to is pressure. I think it was more disrespectful because you came to this person and they still kept inviting you.

And I think that's the problem, one invite is cool*, repeated invites or invites to events the person knows the other person would be opposed to like the pro-life/pro-choice rally, unless specifically approached as "I know you believe X, but would you want to come to Y to see the other side?" and even then that should be in very specific scenarios.

*Some people will be upset at one invite, whether that's them being 'sensitive' or the fact that they face more persistent pressure from others and yours was the 3rd 'come to Jesus' comment that week, well, YMMV.

Its a slippery slope sometimes and is more so case to case. I've seen both sides where somebody was not invited because the inviter assumed it would be offensive to the person only to still offend because the person wanted to at least be told about the event so they could decide whether or not they would want to go and whether or not it was offensive. Of course it wasn't so overt like pro-choice rally or I'm gonna save your soul come to Jesus meeting, but if I invite you to play Bingo at my church (I'll provide the denture creme LOL) and you say no, I shouldn't be thinking "Oh no, I hope she didn't think I was pressuring her to become a christian?"

I think the line is whether there's going to be an attempt to convert. The friends who invited me to the NYE concert that ended with the "pray this prayer to be saved. Any who wish to be saved come forward' were super apologetic about it, because that wasn't what they asked me to come for. Bingo, even with a prayer before hand, probably no big deal.

Some things (not this article not exactly the best of examples) should not be filtered through our biases and should still be approached by actually developing a relationship and a bond. If we are truly bonded with our chapter brothers and sisters, it should never be an issue of whether or not a bible study is being held, or the Islamic members have a special place to pray to the east set aside, or the atheist do what they do. We should be bonded enough that if you invite me to your bible study and I politely decline, we still gonna work the work of our org.

I agree.

Of course I'm talking as somebody from a small diverse chapter, so maybe I'm assuming too much.

No, I think as long as people have the ultimate goal of serving the organization, rather than saving the heathens** you're right.


**To avoid further complaint, no, most Christians don't say things like 'saving the heathens' with any sense of seriousness.

[kArSoN RyDaH]

SO what. People are entitled to do whatever they wish for their religions. The article was poorly written but nonetheless I get the just of it.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by kArSoN RyDaH

SO what. People are entitled to do whatever they wish for their religions. The article was poorly written but nonetheless I get the just of it.

So...suicide bombing in the name of God = OK?

I think everyone agrees that people should be able to do what they wish individually. There's a disconnect re: bringing it to the chapter.