question for all you southern belles ;)

[tootiepie2]

Blonde93 looked at the thread that lists all the chapters at each school in Calf. and you are correct that there are many of the same sororities there as at LSU. I have no idea what school this girl would go to if she did go back to Calf. That was just a point I was trying to make to the family. One of the reasons for that is because many of her family and friends in La. were members of one of the top groups at LSU and they really want her to join that one. Although she has family that are in that sorority none of them are close enough to make her a legacy. According to my daughter this group is really hard for out of state girls to get into. I really wanted her to be open to all of the sororties cause they are all great.
and 33 girl you are also right. But as I have told many people and even my daughter will tell you even the least sought after group at LSU would probably be considered the best at a smaller school. They all have a lot to offer and I don't want her to write off anyone.

[FSUZeta]

good luck helping her to understand that philosophy.

[tootiepie2]

Oh she is definetly going to join a sorority. I was not trying to discourage that or even tell her to only think about sororities that are popular in Calf. She may come here and love it and her sorority may be one of the reasons she stays here. I just brought this up as something to think about and only if she was lucky enough to have a couple of choices and torn about which one to join. I would never want her to join a sorority she did not feel comfortable in just incase she transfered. As most everyone has said ABC at LSU will probably be totaly different that ABC at new college. So even if she did do this it might not work out since she might not even like the new chapter!!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by HQWest

That said, I know that people do this to get into Alabama chapters. It wouldn't surprise me if they did it to get into Texas chapters or a USC chapter, but most of the chapters that I am familiar with would go ahead and affiliate almost any transfer student as long as they made grades and were willing to live in house if that was a requirement for sophomores.

Pretty much everyone has gotten hep to this and I don't think it really works anymore.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Pretty much everyone has gotten hep to this and I don't think it really works anymore.

What's sad is that plenty of girls (and their mothers) still think it will work. I've known a few girls who went to smaller schools in GA with the plan to affiliate at UGA with their dream chapters.

But here's an Actual True Story that's even more bothersome (and I'm sure this happens more than the instance I'm aware of):
Girl goes to SEC U as a freshman
Girl rushes
Girl does not get into ABC Dream Sorority
Girl transfers immediately to Small U that has not started school yet
Girl pledges ABC Dream Sorority at Small U
Girl transfers back to SEC U as a sophomore
Girl is shocked when she is not able to affiliate with ABC Dream Sorority

It just seems like a lot of work to be able to say "I was an ABC." Then again, I wasn't raised by a family in which every living woman was an ABC.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

It just seems like a lot of work to be able to say "I was an ABC." Then again, I wasn't raised by a family in which every living woman was an ABC.

This is what I gather from this thread.

A question: for those who transfer to another school and attempt to affiliate, and are unsuccessful, your greek life COMPLETELY ends? Like, could you wear letters and attend greek parties? Participate in other greek activities? Would you have to spend the remainder of your UG life explaining to people that "youre an XYZ, but not a State U XYZ?"

Does not affiliating = that chapter not acknowledging you at all? If I had a class with an XYZ there, would she shun me because I wasnt given a bid there? I just wonder what the overall consensus is, socially.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by tld221

This is what I gather from this thread.

A question: for those who transfer to another school and attempt to affiliate, and are unsuccessful, your greek life COMPLETELY ends? Like, could you wear letters and attend greek parties? Participate in other greek activities? Would you have to spend the remainder of your UG life explaining to people that "youre an XYZ, but not a State U XYZ?"

Does not affiliating = that chapter not acknowledging you at all? If I had a class with an XYZ there, would she shun me because I wasnt given a bid there? I just wonder what the overall consensus is, socially.

In the scenario dgdramadawg described, them not affiliating the woman is kind of exactly what you described in the first paragraph. As far as "Greek parties" it depends what you mean. She most likely wouldn't be allowed to go to closed mixers, and definitely not to date parties, but if NOP fraternity has a general party, she can go to that, the same as anyone else can.

Whether the sisters of the chapter would outright "shun" her is anyone's guess. I would hope not. But if she attempted to get into their group through nefarious means...I wouldn't blame them if they did. That's a 2 part crime. 1) Using a less-popular chapter to get initiated; and 2) trying to put one over on the sisters of the more-popular chapter.

[ComradesTrue]

Originally Posted by tld221

A question: for those who transfer to another school and attempt to affiliate, and are unsuccessful, your greek life COMPLETELY ends? Like, could you wear letters and attend greek parties? Participate in other greek activities? Would you have to spend the remainder of your UG life explaining to people that "youre an XYZ, but not a State U XYZ?"

Does not affiliating = that chapter not acknowledging you at all? If I had a class with an XYZ there, would she shun me because I wasnt given a bid there? I just wonder what the overall consensus is, socially.

I have posted this story as a cautionary tale elsewhere on GC, so apologies in advance to those for which it is quite repetitive.

I went to a southern school (TCU) with students that just "had" to be in certain sororities for their bloodlines/communities/etc. There were also just those girls who may have been big fish in their small (non-Texan) pond and saw themselves in only the most elite chapters on campus. A girl on my hall freshman year was one of those.

She came from out-of-state, which was not uncommon, but had her sights set on ONLY one chapter out of the 10 that we had. That one chapter traditionally pledged girls from specific Texas towns that came from a very elite social class. While this girl could have easily gotten a bid from any number of chapters on campus, she wanted no part of them. Once her dream chapter cut her (after 2nd round I think?), she dropped out of rush.

So, sophomore year she rushes again. Announces to anyone who will listen that she is rushing to be in that same chapter. This time she is cut after first round. Therefore, she packs up her bags, transfers back home before school even starts, and goes to the small, commuter school in her town. One guess as to the house that she pledges there. Guess who shows back up on campus junior year sporting her letters and wanting to affiliate? But... the chapter not only voted not to affiliate her, they basically shunned her. She also didn't get many (any?) invites to fraternity parties because the girls in that chapter made sure all the boys knew what she had done and that she was not a part of them since she wore letters every freaking day.

While I have no doubt that she joined an alumnae chapter the day after graduation, and probably has had somewhat of a fulfilling life as an alumna, I have to wonder if she thinks that it was worth it. She basically gave up her entire college Greek Life experience to get her prized letters.

[33girl]

But here's my question on a deal like the above.

In certain circles where people feel they HAVE to be an ABC, isn't it not just being an ABC, but being an ABC from YZ chapter? And if it's pretty well known that YZ chapter shunned your wannabe self, how are you going to explain that one?