A Word of Caution to PNMs - Page 4

Alumiyum · #46 12-11-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

You seem to enjoy stating the obvious and missing the point at the same time. Par for the course for you, hmm?

Glad you're white knighting the happy silent majority on GC who hate "cutting remarks" and enjoy happy fun recruitment threads.

GC should stop encouraging recruitment threads. They're a bad idea for everyone involved. And I will also note, since it was deleted from this thread before, that many of the posters pulling for parent posted threads are parents who have posted one or MANY threads for their own children. Moderators included. Funny that when the mods are criticized for the things they've posted in recruitment threads, they delete the posts involved - I'm speaking about carnation specifically here - and yet they post here about how gee, it's totally cool for parents to post. You know, just be more careful than they were, or something.

It's hypocritical and a circle jerk.

Just as much as stooping to insults or snotty remarks is par for the course for you. I don't feel like putting up with it today.

I am not missing the point at all. The point is, you don't like these threads. You think they're a bad idea and a waste of time. Of course, the point is also that not everyone feels that way. They are allowed. If people wish to share, great. If they screw themselves over, that sucks. IMO it's not "our" responsibility to babysit.

DrPhil · #47 12-11-2010, 02:13 PM

Actually, constantly (versus when the context is appropriate) reminding people that something is their opinion and not everyone shares their opinion is extremely insulting and snotty whether done on GC or in real life. It assumes that people are presenting their opinion as the truth or speaking generally rather than individually. Bad assumption.

Alumiyum and some others don't mind the threads, some others don't like the threads, and there are others sitting on the fence. That reality of difference of opinions never ends a discussion unless people just get tired of discussing. LOL.

Alumiyum · #48 12-11-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Actually, constantly (versus when the context is appropriate) reminding people that something is their opinion and not everyone shares their opinion is extremely insulting and snotty whether done on GC or in real life. It assumes that people are presenting their opinion as the truth or speaking generally rather than individually. Bad assumption.

Alumiyum and some others don't mind the threads, some others don't like the threads, and there are others sitting on the fence. That reality of difference of opinions never ends a discussion unless people just get tired of discussing. LOL.

I find referring to recruitment threads as "circle jerks"/"mental masturbation", PNMs as dumb, parents who post as helicopter parents, personal insults, and the assumption that recruitment threads have nothing at all to contribute to be extremely insulting and snotty. We all have our pet peeves and such.

Pretty much everything Drolefille, myself, and others have posted on the topic can be summed up in the bolded of your post.

DrPhil · #49 12-11-2010, 02:29 PM

That's why "insulting" and "snotty" are subjective.

Keep the party going.

AlphaFrog · #50 12-11-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

I hope the moderators don't edit or close this thread. Let discourse be as it is.

Too late.

33girl · #51 12-11-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

The PNM threads have devolved into endless "dress the PNM" nightmares with people giving advice inappropriate for the campus because they think they know better.

There were 2 threads a looooooong time ago from girls going to Cali schools where they described the clothes they were wearing. Those were fun to read because they both wrote really well. I could have given a rat's rump where they actually ended up joining.

But yeah, the multiple linkage is boring.

My advice to women who want to write a recruitment story: if you're doing it to work out your emotions and feelings and confusion as you go through rush, use this

not this

.

You're not going to figure out what you truly feel if you're censoring yourself on GC.

Chicago88 · #52 12-11-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jen

And be aware that if you DO ask about a specific school, you've now told all of GC where you go to school. This is why the search function is awesome.

True to a point but people ask about schools who haven't gotten accepted yet, like myself. And I agree about the search tool but in all honesty I dont go back more than three to four pages worth of threads.

knight_shadow · #53 12-11-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88

True to a point but people ask about schools who haven't gotten accepted yet, like myself. And I agree about the search tool but in all honesty I dont go back more than three to four pages worth of threads.

90% of the threads start with "I'll be enrolling at University of State in the fall, and ____"

And the information is out there. If a PNM doesn't take the time to look for it, she can't expect GC to do it for her.

Alumiyum · #54 12-11-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88

True to a point but people ask about schools who haven't gotten accepted yet, like myself. And I agree about the search tool but in all honesty I dont go back more than three to four pages worth of threads.

As long as you search first...it's true that in some cases there might be a thread, but it's three or four years old and might not be relevant now. Many of the questions that are asked have been answered already pretty recently, but there are definitely times when you need information that isn't there. That's when you ask.

Chicago88 · #55 12-11-2010, 04:35 PM

True. Ive also noticed that some threads pop up if a certain word is in the thread on page 6 of 22. I tend to skip those. Whoops?

DeltaBetaBaby · #56 12-11-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago88

True. Ive also noticed that some threads pop up if a certain word is in the thread on page 6 of 22. I tend to skip those. Whoops?

You should be able to search on thread title only.

Really, it's okay to ask questions. We all know that the GL website isn't always totally truthful when it comes to things like recs and outfits. I think the examples given above were good ones, and in my mind, it boils down to the difference between "I have questions about rush at XXX University" and "I have questions about MY rush at XXX University".

Chicago88 · #57 12-11-2010, 05:26 PM

Right. Its not important to me what sorority is most popular, or who likes blondes.. yadda yadda. What important is I find the right one for me.

Jen · #58 12-11-2010, 05:26 PM

I created a Search how to.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh....php?p=2010891

Chicago88 · #59 12-11-2010, 05:30 PM

Ive been a lurker for a while now. I know how to use the search. As much as certain people preach and preach about the search function.. some just dont get it. Rather than writing back snippity, snarky, and sometimes bitchy comments to those don't search, how about they just dont get a response. Let them figure it out themselves.

KSUViolet06 · #60 12-11-2010, 05:34 PM

Avoid asking any question starting with "what are my chances of getting a bid at _______?" and continuing with a list of your stats (GPA, how "cute" you are, how many friends you have in chapters, whether you're a legacy).

We do not know.

No matter how many "stats" you provide us, we still don't know.

Granted, there are SOME situations that are pretty black and white and we MAY be able to tell you (with some degree of certainty) that you really don't have much of a chance.

Example: "I'm going to SEC U, I'm a junior transfer, and I have a (insert min. GPA standard for recruitment here). I also have a 3 year old kid and work 3 jobs. What are my chances of getting a bid?"

But barring a few extreme situations like those, we don't know. So don't ask us what your chances are.