I'm honestly a little appalled.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by 33girl

No carnation, that's the word I wanted to use. LOL.

Just checking! I was the SGA Director of Public Relations when I was a senior and managed to send out a letter to all the freshman parents about campus safety with my name and "Director of Pubic Relations" at the bottom.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by carnation

Just checking! I was the SGA Director of Public Relations when I was a senior and managed to send out a letter to all the freshman parents about campus safety with my name and "Director of Pubic Relations" at the bottom.

That's embarrassing.

[ree-Xi]

I'm wondering, can a person be a "little" appalled? Does the word really need a qualifier? Or is like coincidences? There are no "big" coincidences or "little" coincidences, there are just coincidences.

(Thank you Seinfeld for that argument.)

[agzg]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Well isn't that nice for you. I guess AST never has parties where alcohol is served or allowed? Your sisters never drink? If it is, then AST is associated with alcohol in some way. Interesting that you are so disapproving of the practices of other organizations, when you likely don't know what every AST chapter in the US does on their campuses. For all you know, there are chapters of AST running around with similar shirts. Be careful calling out other groups when you don't know whether or not your own sisters may be doing the same thing across the country.

Seriously.

[lovespink88]

These shirts (and a few sexually suggestive shirts as well) for sorority/fraternity events are pretty standard on my campus. They never get worn to the actual events though, so yeah the shirt are associated with drinking, but no one ever really drinks in letters. (Except for football block--which is what we do instead of tailgating. In that case, sororities just put tape over their letters or turn their shirts/sweatshirts inside out).

[Drolefille]

AST's policy

None of this appears to be ritual, and none of it is shocking, new, different, or OMG WTF. There's a prohibition against letters around alcohol 'abuse' but not 'use.' There's a prohibition against social events at bars, but it's not clear if that only applies to going to a bar that's otherwise open, or renting out the space and using it with a cash bar.

Sorority members over 21 may drink and chapters may have alcohol at events.


Seems pretty standard to me. (And if you'd like it pulled down, I will, but as I said, it does not appear to be ritual material.)

[ErinBee]

This is kind of swerving a little. But my chapter has extremely strict rules on drink in letters, smoking in letters, looking like you just rolled out of bed in letters...basically representing Alpha Chi in any kind of somewhat disrespectful way. These are solely our own chapter's personal development rules. Our campus is also extremely small and shirts like that would never ever ever fly. Fraternities get fined for cussing during chants when they get their new members.

At the same time, we've actually had "Water Pong" as an event in greek week that is put together by Student Activities.

If that chapter wanted to make a shirt like that, it's their business. She wasn't snorting coke in it or advertising prostitution with letters on so I'm not embarassed.

There's just so many more bigger issues.

[SWTXBelle]

It's not an either/or situation. "Either you worry about bigger issues, or you worry about the shirt." It is entirely possible to worry about bigger issues while also thinking that it is not a good idea to associate drinking games with your group in such a public manner.

It's their business, but since they've chosen to advertise their GLO in that way they should realize that there will be those who will have a negative reaction. Apparently, the campus cultures vary wildly on this; I'd be interested in knowing what chapter/national rules different groups have. I have no idea what Gamma Phi's official take is. I do know that our chapter and our campus cultures were such that no sororities had shirts like that - fraternities did.

[greekalum]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I can only control what goes on in chapters I work with.

I can't even go that far!