"Best" Colleges and their Greek Systems

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

In Texas (and the South maybe?) state schools are considered land grant institutions. Something about them being established after the Civil War.

All over the country, many public colleges and universities are land-grant institutions. Being a land grant institution is a legal status; it means the the institution was established pursuant to the Morrill Land-Grant Acts, under which a state was given federal land on the condition that the proceeds of the sale of that land be used to establish institutions that provided an education particularly in agricultural and "mechanical" studies. After the Civil War, a second Land-Grant Act (which granted cash instead of land) was aimed at insuring that former Confederate states would either not discriminate on the basis of race in land-grant institutions or would establish seperate land-grant institutions based on race.

Are all the state schools in Texas land-grant colleges?

[Senusret I]

This is the best thread ever.

[nittanygirl]

Originally Posted by agzg

Of course, I like to think Penn State alumni are also some of the most annoying college grads on the planet, but that's just because I went to Pitt.

I like my school. And we don't think you are annoying anymore (at least us current students with no games anymore to give us a rivalry)
We dislike Ohio State

Buttttttt all things aside if I was on the outside looking in... I could see how people would think our alumni are annoying. I've heard it referred to as "cult-like" lol

Penn State Alums have a TON of pride for their/our school. We're very proud of it, our football team & our personal experiences here.
WE ARE... PENN STATE!

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

This is the best thread ever.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

This is not correct with regard to Harvard -- the sororities are not allowed to use any college facilities to hold rush, meetings, etc. In fact they are not even allowed to put posters up on university bulletin boards to advertise their events. They have all their events either in rented public spaces like restaurants or space in the all-male final clubs (also unrecognized), which have private houses around the campus.

Yeah, when I toured Harvard, they told us that there were no sororities on campus. We later took an "unofficial tour," and the guide (a Theta) explained that the groups weren't recognized by the university and weren't allowed to use any campus spaces for events. (And our tour guide seemed very weirded out that my mom was so involved in Theta.)

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Are all the state schools in Texas land-grant colleges?

Interesting question - the University of Texas and Texas A&M system schools are funded in part by the Permanent University Fund, established in 1876. Other systems - Texas State, Texas Tech, U of Houston, U of North Texas and some A&M and UT system schools - are prohibited by law from being funded by it, and instead since 1984 have received funds from the much less endowed Higher Education Assistance Fund. Not that I'm bitter.

I know for certain that Texas A&M was established because of the 1862 Morrill act (land grant college). Prairie View A & M is the historically black college established in 1876 as a land grant college. I don't think any of the others are land grant colleges.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Interesting question - the University of Texas and Texas A&M system schools are funded in part by the Permanent University Fund, established in 1876. Other systems - Texas State, Texas Tech, U of Houston, U of North Texas and some A&M and UT system schools - are prohibited by law from being funded by it, and instead since 1984 have received funds from the much less endowed Higher Education Assistance Fund. Not that I'm bitter.

I know for certain that Texas A&M was established because of the 1862 Morrill act (land grant college). Prairie View A & M is the historically black college established in 1876 as a land grant college. I don't think any of the others are land grant colleges.

I haven't heard of any Texas schools besides A+M and PV being land grant.

And iGiggled at the bolded. Now to go back to the "Texans for Tier One" site

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Interesting question - the University of Texas and Texas A&M system schools are funded in part by the Permanent University Fund, established in 1876. Other systems - Texas State, Texas Tech, U of Houston, U of North Texas and some A&M and UT system schools - are prohibited by law from being funded by it, and instead since 1984 have received funds from the much less endowed Higher Education Assistance Fund. Not that I'm bitter.

The funding sources wouldn't preclude being land-grant institution, I don't think. Land-grant has to do with the establishment of the school.

FWIW, here is the Wiki's list, by state, of land-grant institutions. The list says that the two land-grant schools in Texas are Texas A&M and Prairie View A&M.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

It may be surprising at colleges so elite and so selective, but there's a strong egalitarian vibe to the social scene at Harvard and Yale. The dominant ethos holds that everybody's a nerd of some flavor or another, so we should put the competition down when it comes to our social lives. Social exclusion/ranking is seen as very high school. It's also true that at HYP, as with pretty much every campus I've ever seen, you can tell the NPC groups apart by their members' hotness, even if you've been away from campus for four years. That alone is enough reason for the majority of female students to refuse to even consider joining. They think, I made it all the way to Harvard/Yale, just to be judged on my looks? No, thanks.

Yeah, it's a lot better to be judged on how much money your family has for which final club you can get into. That's so much more egalitarian.

I just think that any selective college whose students put down the Greek system (or the final club system, for that matter) because it's "snobby" really needs to rethink their admission standards if the students don't see the ridiculous irony in that attitude.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Yeah, it's a lot better to be judged on how much money your family has for which final club you can get into. That's so much more egalitarian.

I just think that any selective college whose students put down the Greek system (or the final club system, for that matter) because it's "snobby" really needs to rethink their admission standards if the students don't see the ridiculous irony in that attitude.

If I'd gotten into Harvard I wouldn't have any student loans. They actually have some impressive financial aid at the Ivys these days.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

If I'd gotten into Harvard I wouldn't have any student loans. They actually have some impressive financial aid at the Ivys these days.

Which statement are you responding to?

[als463]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

All over the country, many public colleges and universities are land-grant institutions. Being a land grant institution is a legal status; it means the the institution was established pursuant to the Morrill Land-Grant Acts, under which a state was given federal land on the condition that the proceeds of the sale of that land be used to establish institutions that provided an education particularly in agricultural and "mechanical" studies. After the Civil War, a second Land-Grant Act (which granted cash instead of land) was aimed at insuring that former Confederate states would either not discriminate on the basis of race in land-grant institutions or would establish seperate land-grant institutions based on race.

Are all the state schools in Texas land-grant colleges?

Both Penn State and Michigan State are land-grant institutions. That is why we play the "Land-Grant Bowl" against each other, every year.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Which statement are you responding to?

Your comment about being judged based on how much money one has. The only place I saw that comment coming from was that it was about Harvard and Yale. I didn't get where else you were getting the $$ thing from.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Your comment about being judged based on how much money one has. The only place I saw that comment coming from was that it was about Harvard and Yale. I didn't get where else you were getting the $$ thing from.

If you had to use scholarship money, you most likely would not be in a final club. Although you probably could join a sorority with no problem. Hence my point.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

If you had to use scholarship money, you most likely would not be in a final club. Although you probably could join a sorority with no problem. Hence my point.

Ah ok, I didn't catch the final club thing. My bad.

If it's only 10% of the school (and the "old money contingent at that") I think they'd be pretty easy to ignore if you didn't care about them