Miami University Pi Beta Phi Suspended - Page 4

33girl · #1 05-12-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sydney bristow

I am in no way defending their actions because what they did was disgusting and makes ALL greeks look bad, BUT let's try and stay away from stereotypes like this. Not every single member of any chapter has the same "typical behavior". True, certain chapters have certain stereotypes but we should at least stand together panhellenically. That sounded really cheesy. Ok, stepping off soapbox now!

I was thinking the exact same thing. There seems to be a big old pile-on where these girls are concerned. To see a parent (who's old enough to know better) doing it is...I don't even have a word.

AnotherKD · #2 05-12-2010, 08:40 AM

The only saving grace from this is that I would like to think that *most* of us who are/have been greek know that it isn't necessarily a smear on the Pi Phi name. We understand it's the individuals that make the bad choices and we know that not every Pi Phi house, not even CLOSE, is like that. It's sad that the issues that come up are the only things that get attention in the press and the only thing that independents hear about. As far as these girls go, I would be embarrassed to call them sisters but I wouldn't be embarrassed to be a Pi Phi. You guys have a great house and you do great things, and for whatever it's worth, you have my support.

DrPhil · #3 05-12-2010, 02:30 PM

"Some of my best friends are Miami Greeks."

LOL

But, it's true, one of my closest friends is a seasoned NPHCer from there. That means nothing but I thought I'd share since everyone else did.

KSUViolet06 · #4 05-12-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

"Some of my best friends are Miami Greeks."

LOL

But, it's true, one of my closest friends is a seasoned NPHCer from there. That means nothing but I thought I'd share since everyone else did.

I called my mom a "seasoned greek" the other day. Didn't go over so well. lol.

IrishLake · #5 05-12-2010, 05:17 PM

Ouch! I didn't know the Freedom Center hosted private events like this.

lovespink88 · #6 05-12-2010, 07:27 PM

Oh frick.

MUSK81 · #7 05-12-2010, 07:29 PM

One-year probation? Can you say "slap on the wrist?" We ALWAYS had alumnae at our formals and informals and if we did not behave in a proper manner, we heard about it! I just feel sorry for the sisters and their dates who were not involved in the mayhem. As always, the innocent are punished along with the guilty.

dreamseeker · #8 05-12-2010, 11:56 PM

i really don't like that while reading an article on cnn.com i see the like button there. damn.

maybe we should all check out the diaspora* when the nerds finish creating it.

33girl · #9 05-13-2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamseeker

i really don't like that while reading an article on cnn.com i see the like button there. damn.

maybe we should all check out the diaspora* when the nerds finish creating it.

That nerd holding the computer has very nice hands. Just saying is all.

UofM-TKE - you must have a super-puter faster than mine because when I clicked on the "facebook" thing at the bottom where you said your picture showed up, all I got was undulating loading-bars. I didn't see anyone's pictures.

dreamseeker · #10 05-13-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

That nerd holding the computer has very nice hands. Just saying is all.

*looks*

yeah...

IrishLake · #11 05-13-2010, 10:17 AM

If it's firsthand experience though, and not hearsay... then it's not so taboo, IMO. Considering these stories have dominated the local talk radio shows and have been in the top 3 news stories on the local Big 4 news affiliates, plus the newspapers... other MU students saying "I'm not surprised" is the least of worries.

As for the PiPhi's and Alpha Xi's... I read that the PiPhi's have to apply to be released from suspension next year. IMO, Alpha Xi has every right to appeal.

I think MUGreek had a great post, and he's spot on with the logic behind why the Alpha Xi's are being punished more harshly. A lightbulb clicked when he mentioned what he did. Like I said before, I didn't even realize the Freedom Center HELD events like this or even had rental space, and I worked in a building directly across from it for 2 years. It makes sense... a predominately white sorority formal being held at a museum that celebrates black history, with an end result like this? With the Civil Rights baseball game being held in a matter of a few days? The Center IS hurting for money. Cincinnati is an extremely racially divided city as it is, this is just salt in that wound. However, if the Alpha Xi punishment is going to be that harsh for that reason though, then I think the standard has to be the same for all MU greek orgs.

I feel horrible for the girls in both sisterhoods who didn't do anything to deserve this. How the actions of a few (at least half of them dates) can ruin things for so many others is unfathomable to me.

sydney bristow · #12 05-13-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishLake

If it's firsthand experience though, and not hearsay... then it's not so taboo, IMO. Considering these stories have dominated the local talk radio shows and have been in the top 3 news stories on the local Big 4 news affiliates, plus the newspapers... other MU students saying "I'm not surprised" is the least of worries.

As for the PiPhi's and Alpha Xi's... I read that the PiPhi's have to apply to be released from suspension next year. IMO, Alpha Xi has every right to appeal.

I think MUGreek had a great post, and he's spot on with the logic behind why the Alpha Xi's are being punished more harshly. A lightbulb clicked when he mentioned what he did. Like I said before, I didn't even realize the Freedom Center HELD events like this or even had rental space, and I worked in a building directly across from it for 2 years. It makes sense... a predominately white sorority formal being held at a museum that celebrates black history, with an end result like this? With the Civil Rights baseball game being held in a matter of a few days? The Center IS hurting for money. Cincinnati is an extremely racially divided city as it is, this is just salt in that wound. However, if the Alpha Xi punishment is going to be that harsh for that reason though, then I think the standard has to be the same for all MU greek orgs.

I feel horrible for the girls in both sisterhoods who didn't do anything to deserve this. How the actions of a few (at least half of them dates) can ruin things for so many others is unfathomable to me.

When you put it like that, I can definitely see your point. I guess my thing is that GC always tries to stay far, far away from discussing chapter reputations simply because it makes greek life look bad.

Bottom line- these girls were idiots. They make us all look bad. It is sad that it wasn't the whole chapter's fault, but yours and your dates' actions reflect your chapter and it is so sad when a few ROTTEN apples ruin it for everyone.

AOII Angel · #13 05-13-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishLake

If it's firsthand experience though, and not hearsay... then it's not so taboo, IMO. Considering these stories have dominated the local talk radio shows and have been in the top 3 news stories on the local Big 4 news affiliates, plus the newspapers... other MU students saying "I'm not surprised" is the least of worries.

As for the PiPhi's and Alpha Xi's... I read that the PiPhi's have to apply to be released from suspension next year. IMO, Alpha Xi has every right to appeal.

I think MUGreek had a great post, and he's spot on with the logic behind why the Alpha Xi's are being punished more harshly. A lightbulb clicked when he mentioned what he did. Like I said before, I didn't even realize the Freedom Center HELD events like this or even had rental space, and I worked in a building directly across from it for 2 years. It makes sense... a predominately white sorority formal being held at a museum that celebrates black history, with an end result like this? With the Civil Rights baseball game being held in a matter of a few days? The Center IS hurting for money. Cincinnati is an extremely racially divided city as it is, this is just salt in that wound. However, if the Alpha Xi punishment is going to be that harsh for that reason though, then I think the standard has to be the same for all MU greek orgs.

I feel horrible for the girls in both sisterhoods who didn't do anything to deserve this. How the actions of a few (at least half of them dates) can ruin things for so many others is unfathomable to me.

Desecrating a Civil Rights museum should be judged more harshly than a lodge. This is a fact of life. It's like speeding in a school zone versus on a regular street. We, as a society, have places that we just hold more sacred than others. If Miami University didn't hold Alpha Xi responsible in a harsh manner for their behavior, then they would be setting a bad example for what is acceptable behavior when visiting a place that many hold sacred. While I am sorry that this may ruin the experience of the Alpha Xi members who behaved themselves, the chapter should have been aware that their behavior at that venue needed to be above reproach. Hell, the DJ was appalled! This would be the equivalent of trashing the Smithsonian, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, The Vietnam Memorial or any countless places that memorialize our culture, history, etc. You just don't do that. I agree with the Freedom Center, it would be a good thing for these women to tour the center when they return to the school in the fall so they realize what they were desecrating. The least they could do is learn from the experience. In the end, none of this fiasco is about sorority life, it's about alcohol abuse, poor decision making and a lack of respect for others which is pervasive in more schools than just MU.

AZTheta · #14 05-13-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

In the end, none of this fiasco is about sorority life, it's about alcohol abuse, poor decision making and a lack of respect for others which is pervasive in more schools than just MU.

This. (bolding mine)

agzg · #15 05-13-2010, 11:54 AM

I tend to agree. I've been to many many formals, and some of those have gotten, well, what I considered at the time to be "out of hand" - but nothing compared to this! A broken glass was cause for huge concern at my school/chapter, but broken vases, someone trying to pee on an artifact in a museum? Never.

Perhaps these women (and their dates) need some serious alcohol intervention.