McCain booed after trying to calm anti-Obama crowd

[Educatingblue]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

What do you mean?

The overall mob/riot mentality made me immediately think of integration in the deep south years ago...

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Educatingblue

The overall mob/riot mentality made me immediately think of integration in the deep south years ago...

Where are you getting mob/riot mentality? A couple of people yelling out dumb stuff at rallies equals turning fire hoses on people and bombings?

I know John Lewis said something to this effect this week, but it just seemed crazy to actually compare the two. What "promises" were you referring to?

And how in the world can you say a campaign that may result in the first multi-racial President in US history set us back 50 years? How does that compute?

[Educatingblue]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Where are you getting mob/riot mentality? A couple of people yelling out dumb stuff at rallies equals turning fire hoses on people and bombings?

I know John Lewis said something to this effect this week, but it just seemed crazy to actually compare the two.

I did not say fire hoses or bombings. I think anyone can see the tone of this election has definitely changed.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Educatingblue

I did not say fire hoses or bombings. I think anyone can see the tone of this election has definitely changed.

Well, what did you have in mind when you said you immediately thought of integration in the deep south? What was the comparison you were making?

I don't see that the tone has changed in regard to race. I see the media giving coverage to some nuts who have probably been there all along. And again, I see Obama leading in the polls. How is that a set back?

[CrackerBarrel]

Yeah... I'm kind of lost on this one too.

The criticisms of Obama coming from the Republican party are for hanging out with a crazy WHITE guy. How exactly is this so racially awful?

If the criticisms were for Wright (which would also be valid in my opinion) then you could at least have an excuse (albeit a bad one, IMO, the guy's a racist himself) for playing the race card, but this is dumb.

If you really want to talk about hurting race relations, some of the things Obama has said in the past himself could do more harm than anything the official republican party is doing now.

[Educatingblue]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Well, what did you have in mind when you said you immediately thought of integration in the deep south? What was the comparison you were making?

I don't see that the tone has changed in regard to race. I see the media giving coverage to some nuts who have probably been there all along. And again, I see Obama leading in the polls. How is that a set back?

Damn! Are we reading the same thread???

Originally Posted by ThetaDancer

Ugh I know. That rally made our state look pretty awful. Everyone seemed so angry and hateful.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

The McCain/Palin campaign is playing with fire. I hope they teach future politicians a lesson that this kind of tactic is just too dirty to work. I'd be so embarrassed to have my name tied to any of those exploits!

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Honestly, when McCain grabbed the mic from the woman, I got the feeling he was trying to prevent the election rally from turning into a KKK Gathering. You could see he was aghast and embarrassed at what was said. Whatever he was responding to (Ms. Quinnell, the man who spoke before her, or the terrorist chants), he didn't want to be part of it.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I honestly wonder if that is also a codeword for him being black and some people are just too afraid to admit that they don't want to vote for him because of it....regardless...as time grows closer people are showing their xenophobia and their paranoia as McCain's campaign slides down the tubes.

America can't afford a muck up in the polls come November 4th

and here is the 'kill him' clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw3o3y77MaA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFWa...eature=related

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

Apparently at the Waukesha WI rally someone yelled "Lynch him." I love my hometown.

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

all i know is that the underlying racism that we have assumed was on the down low, is now out and vocal. Lynching? killing people? seriously, did it occur that maybe if more than half the country wants an "arab" as president, maybe you should move yourself, because whats worse than one "arab"??? several million "arab" supporters!...its sheer ignorance and i cant believe im hearing it. that mob mentality mentioned earlier scares the hell out of me! i have friends who live in predominately white areas who are nervous about voting now.

[agzg]

I was talking promises in terms of the "Kill him" and "Lynch him" comments.

I know they're nutjobs - but often it only takes one nutjob, you know? By no means are they the entire McCain supporter demographic, but still... I haven't heard people saying similar things about McCain. I might be wrong on that one, though... mainstream media is generally less forgiving when Obama is attacked.

Oh, and the comedienne who said that about Palin? That was a dumb move. It was right to drop her from that benefit, obviously. Joking about gang rape doesn't really jibe with an anti-violence against women group.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by Kevin

To say that McCain's supporters 'typically' believe this tripe is about as accurate as saying that most Democrats are too stupid to use a butterfly ballot.

Where are you getting this? I never said this is a typical McCain supporter reaction. It's not. It's just the nutjobs that both parties have. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Sandra Bernhard said some crap about Palin getting gang raped by her black brothers if Palin came to Manhattan, and Bernhard got dropped from a violence against women benefit as a result.

I wasn't aware that Palin is getting rape threats. That's truly disgusting. I still think you're missing my point though. It seems that all of these threats flying around aren't phasing you. Things have gotten really ugly. If you don't see it, fine.

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I don't expect Obama to say anything nor do I consider it a reflection on him really, but I'm not sure that Leslie Ann's "well at least she's not getting death threats because if it" is actually accurate. Palin's getting rape threats and I wouldn't be surprised by death threats. People out there are nuts.

I have to say though, I don't think that McCain or Palin have really said anything themselves to incite this particular reaction.

I think the point in linking him to Ayers it to show how far left he is. Ayers is not a centrist kind of guy. But the nuts are taking it in a different direction when they hear terrorist.

I really don't think the Ayers stuff was supposed to be a code for this craziness. And I don't fault McCain or Palin for the ignorance of some of the people at their rallies.

See this is where we differ. Palin repeating the word "terrorist" at rallies in relation to Ayers has spawned the actions of the nutjobs. I don't believe for a second that the McCain camp didn't actually count on the fact that the loonies out there would start thinking that Obama was the terrorist.

I just think that's wreckless and that was the entire point of my original post. The link to the video showed McCain saying nothing in response to the person who shouted "terrorist." I give him credit for correcting people now though.

[AGDee]

Excellent Campbell Brown piece:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/...ama/index.html

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Where are you getting mob/riot mentality? A couple of people yelling out dumb stuff at rallies equals turning fire hoses on people and bombings?

I know John Lewis said something to this effect this week, but it just seemed crazy to actually compare the two. What "promises" were you referring to?

And how in the world can you say a campaign that may result in the first multi-racial President in US history set us back 50 years? How does that compute?

Did you read the article I posted in this thread? You might find it interesting and informative, particularly since you were asking for links earlier.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by ThetaDancer

Did you read the article I posted in this thread? You might find it interesting and informative, particularly since you were asking for links earlier.

I don't really think I value Frank Rich's opinion as much as you do.

We have relatively few actual documented instances of people yelling crazy stuff at rallies and a whole lot of speculation about what that means. I don't think it points to anything new or actually dangerous in any real way, anymore than all the Bush=Hitler crap we've been hearing for the last eight years meant anything for him (ETA: well, not eight year, but you know what I mean).

And I especially don't think that anyone is going to take any "Republican rage" out on black people generally, which is why I find the race relations setback comments so strange.

[UGAalum94]

http://www.timesleader.com/news/brea...nfounded_.html

Granted this is about a new charge, rather than the Florida one, I think.

[LightBulb]

Jon Stewart did a piece the other day about McCain as Dr. Frankenstein and his rallygoers as the monster. It includes the clips from the beginning of the thread.

Here's the full Daily Show episode for when you get a chance.

[Munchkin03]

GOP Women's group leader issues "Obama Bucks," a fake food stamp with Obama...along with some Kool-Aid, watermelon, KFC, and ribs.

Apparently the black members of the group ripped her a new one, but she says it was "just a joke."

http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/s...6.3d67d4a.html

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

Is it a dumb gene or a hate gene? That lady's not going to like Obama whether or not he's actually Arabic.

This is the real issue behind all of the racial comments, and the candidates standing up against the people making them. Some people just hate others based on absolutely nothing. This woman could have read on the internet that Obama is actually a weird shade of purple, and she would have said, "He's the one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater!" Whatever she hears about him is just more information she can use to rationalize her pre-existing hatred for him.

Because of that, candidates should not be required or expected to say anything to these wacked out crazies. If John McCain, or anyone else, said something to this woman, or to anyone else who yelled out, "kill him," their efforts to change their opinion would have been futile.

And the reason that people associate being an arab with being evil is because of 9/11. Back in 2001, people would make this assumption because the twin towers fell, the pentagon was hit, and a plane full of good people were killed in PA trying to bring down some of the terrorists. And those people that made that assumption were just as ignorant as the people making that same assumption today. At least for the people who thought this 7 years ago, they were worked up, that event just occurred, and it caused them to fight back "in the heat of the moment." But now, as I said before, this has simply become a way of justifying harsh criticism and hatred concerning who Obama is and what he plans to do.