this girls parents should be shot.....

[Dionysus]

This discussion is boring. Drolefille and blueangel...uh stop it.

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[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

This discussion is boring. Drolefille and blueangel...uh stop it.

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Um, we did.

Go read something else if you're bored

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by James

Blueangel, review the post order, your agreement with drolefile came after my post. I don't believe I have commented about your genetic disease argument since then.

And yes you did mention that the child may not have the disease, however again go back and read your posts.

You kept countering other people's contention that the parents were at fault by using the child's theoretical and unproven disease state. . . her not having it was an after thought.

Also, you kept presenting that even though the counter argument was that the disase was ultimately irrelevant to the parental responsibility to STOP over feeding.

So you persisted in a flawed argument that was based more on emotion than anything else.

Unless you're in the parent's shoes, you have no idea what it's raising a child with PWS.

My point is that we shouldn't judge when we don't know all the facts. Perhaps the parents are at fault. WE DON'T KNOW!

[macallan25]

I hope you get tapeworms.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

So does PW syndrome go undetected for years before it shows up on tests or something? Are the doctors and family not releasing this syndrome info to the public because they'd rather the parents be blamed or something? Or is it just a matter of inconsistent results of the hospitals' tests like what often happens with Lupus?

PWS does not go undetected, then show up on tests later. It is usually seen in children at young as 6 months when two-way peristalsis is formalized.

I think PWS is a chromosomal rearrangement similar to that of Down's Syndrome, Philadelphia Chromosome and the Fragile X. Which means the genetic counselors give the final diagnosis at karyotype.

If the physicians suspected child abuse, they are mandated by law to report it. Since there segments about this kid, and the parents were not jailed, then who knows? Maybe there is a social worker involved?

Depending on where this child lives and what physicians she is seeing, if it is not a University Teaching Hospital, then I doubt she is getting the best care until recently. Media attention tends to bring out the lookie-loos. And physicians are rather vain...

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by macallan25

I hope you get tapeworms.

Ah... my future hubby! I wuv you so much, my wittle western snuggle-bunny! <smooch!>

Isn't he so cute?

[James]

The counterpoint is, it doesn't make a difference what its like to raise such a child.

It only makse a difference on the actual food that you allow that child to eat.

Please concede the point that regardless how emotionally draining it is to have a child with a voracious appetite, whether nature or nurture, it still does not require the parent to put food in the child's mouth.

And it requires food ton get fat like that. Contrary to wishful thinking you can't get heavy like that by just absorbing weight from the air.

Originally Posted by blueangel

Unless you're in the parent's shoes, you have no idea what it's raising a child with PWS.

My point is that we shouldn't judge when we don't know all the facts. Perhaps the parents are at fault. WE DON'T KNOW!

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by James

The counterpoint is, it doesn't make a difference what its like to raise such a child.

It only makse a difference on the actual food that you allow that child to eat.

Please concede the point that regardless how emotionally draining it is to have a child with a voracious appetite, whether nature or nurture, it still does not require the parent to put food in the child's mouth.

And it requires food ton get fat like that. Contrary to wishful thinking you can't get heavy like that by just absorbing weight from the air.

Ah... but you missed the part about the extremely low calories a person with PW Syndrome must maintain in order to be a normal weight. James, please do try to keep up.

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

rodent chow

This made me smile.

[BaylorBean]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

PWS does not go undetected, then show up on tests later. It is usually seen in children at young as 6 months when two-way peristalsis is formalized.

I think PWS is a chromosomal rearrangement similar to that of Down's Syndrome, Philadelphia Chromosome and the Fragile X. Which means the genetic counselors give the final diagnosis at karyotype.

If the physicians suspected child abuse, they are mandated by law to report it. Since there segments about this kid, and the parents were not jailed, then who knows? Maybe there is a social worker involved?

Depending on where this child lives and what physicians she is seeing, if it is not a University Teaching Hospital, then I doubt she is getting the best care until recently. Media attention tends to bring out the lookie-loos. And physicians are rather vain...

PWS is a genetic imprinting disease of the 15th chromosome. Inheriting a 15th chromosome with a deletion in a certain area from the father or both chromosomes from the mother causes PWS. Angelman's is the reverse of PWS (deleted chromosome from mother or both chromosomes from the father). It is a disease that has some pretty obvious characteristics that are caught quite early on in development.

So if this was PWS it would have been caught much earlier.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

This discussion is boring. Drolefille and blueangel...uh stop it.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

LOL

It's way more exciting to just slam the parents.

[James]

I don't understand your point. The child doesn't appear to have this disease.

Further, assuming some hypothetical child did have the disease. You adjust calories/activity until it doesn't gain weight.

Originally Posted by blueangel

Ah... but you missed the part about the extremely low calories a person with PW Syndrome must maintain in order to be a normal weight. James, please do try to keep up.

[AlexMack]

Well personally I blame Mcdonald's and the rest of the food industry for making their processed comestibules so delicious that she was unable to resist their allure.
I think they should be sued.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by centaur532

Well personally I blame Mcdonald's and the rest of the food industry for making their processed comestibules so delicious that she was unable to resist their allure.
I think they should be sued.

Sue the cows for tasting so yummy when ground up and fried/grilled/put into a taco

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by BaylorBean

PWS is a genetic imprinting disease of the 15th chromosome. Inheriting a 15th chromosome with a deletion in a certain area from the father or both chromosomes from the mother causes PWS. Angelman's is the reverse of PWS (deleted chromosome from mother or both chromosomes from the father). It is a disease that has some pretty obvious characteristics that are caught quite early on in development.

So if this was PWS it would have been caught much earlier.

See, I get these 2 disorders mixed up!!! I guess when you are injecting rodents with recombinant DNA constructs, then anything can happen...

However, I do know parents of PWS and what they were telling me, they found out at 6 months. The food hoarding behavior starts when they can access the food, meaning they have some level of learning where the food is... That's why the parents have to lock up the food.