LSU Rush - Page 4

aopirose · #46 01-31-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by LSUgrrl126
I didn't know if anyone on GC was aware of the LSU chapters' rule "cut once, cut always."

As some GCers have suggested, starting a local sorority is a good idea. I read the thread (well not the whole thread) about getting a local started at UCSC so I sort of have an idea of how I could go about doing it, but since LSU has a Panhellenic Board, how would I do it then? And would Greek Affairs really give me a list of the girls who didn't receive bids?

"Cut once, cut always" has been an unwritten rule at LSU for as long as I can remember. When I was there, it was mainly two chapters. (This was told to me by the chapter presidents involved and their alumnae advisers. They believed in standing by the chapter’s original decision.) Since you say that it has now grown to all chapters, it's not all that surprising.

Similar GC threads…
A mini rush rant - http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...&threadid=1517

Rush starts today –
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...=&pagenumber=1

As far as starting a local, talk with Angie the Panhellenic adviser. It might be possible but there are definitely some challenges. The main one is getting liability insurance with affordable premiums. You will also need to have programming compatible with the Greek Assessment program. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Little E · #47 01-31-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by IvySpice
I'm flabbergasted; can someone explain to me why chapters would WANT to have this policy?

Every group I've ever been a member of, we didn't assume that we did a perfect job of sizing up candidates the first time we met them. We assumed both that we could have made a mistake in passing someone up AND that people (especially 18-year-old girls) can change. Why would a chapter choose to limit its options with this kind of policy? It's not like they're obligated to invite any individual to COB if they don't want to.

Ditto- That is horrible and soooo un-panhellenic! I feel so bad for LSUgrrl126 that policy is just mean hearted and nasty. I really do hope you find a home with a local or non-NPC group. Are there multi-cultural groups at LSU that would interest you?

33girl · #48 01-31-2005, 03:51 PM

This is really getting close to the "why do you make the membership selection decisions you do" merry go round that GC has gone on several times.

While I may not agree with decisions other groups or other chapters may make, I will defend their right to choose members as THEY see fit - because if that's taken away from them, it might be taken away from me too.

I mean, I used to think it was HORRIBLE that some groups made transfers wait a semester or a year to affiliate - or sometimes didn't allow them to affiliate at all. Then I found out that these same groups had a lot of problems with women who were purposely pledging at smaller schools and then transferring to Large U - in other words, they weren't really interested in who the women were at either of the chapters, they just wanted to be able to say "Oh I'm an ABC at Large U" for the sake of prestige. If I got burned by that multiple times, I would probably do the same thing.

texas*princess · #49 01-31-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
While I may not agree with decisions other groups or other chapters may make, I will defend their right to choose members as THEY see fit - because if that's taken away from them, it might be taken away from me too.

I totally agree

KSUViolet06 · #50 01-31-2005, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
This is really getting close to the "why do you make the membership selection decisions you do" merry go round that GC has gone on several times.

While I may not agree with decisions other groups or other chapters may make, I will defend their right to choose members as THEY see fit - because if that's taken away from them, it might be taken away from me too.

I fully agree with you.

aephi alum · #51 01-31-2005, 05:10 PM

I, too, am bothered by the idea of "cut once, cut always". Suppose a PNM had been cut for poor grades, but she's managed to bring them up, or a great PNM had to be cut because of release figures... it bothers me that she will never get a second look.

However, it is up to each GLO and each chapter to set its own guidelines for membership selection. I may not agree with the "cut once, cut always" policy, but that's what the chapters at LSU have chosen to do.

LSUgrrl, chin up, and good luck with whatever you decide.

LSUgrrl126 · #52 02-01-2005, 03:58 AM

The rule does not apply if you were cut for grades.

tnxbutterfly · #53 02-02-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Little E
Ditto- That is horrible and soooo un-panhellenic! I feel so bad for LSUgrrl126 that policy is just mean hearted and nasty. I really do hope you find a home with a local or non-NPC group. Are there multi-cultural groups at LSU that would interest you?

There aren't any locals at LSU. There was one local Kappa Zeta but they hazed alot so they are no longer on campus. There aren't any multi-cultural groups on campus either (when I say muticultural I'm refering strictly to organizations like my own) There are tons of ways to get involved though. I was in Circle K while I was there. Lots of fun.

Like others have said, COB is rare. If it does happen, it's not mentioned and the chapters probably have people in mind who they want to bid.

Sorry what happened to you LSUgrrl126.

RUASTgrrl · #54 02-02-2005, 02:08 PM

So I was thinking about this on my way to work, I'm sure if the girl in question, had just worked on meeting girls form her desired orgs, gone through recruitment quietly, if an Org really loved her they would be willing to bend this local rule or whatever. I understand that there is a degree of anonimity here on GC but if she has indeed been pestering the greek life office and panhel adivisor, than word will likely spread. It's unfortunate, but you prob would have been better off not saying anythig about it. But that just my .02 nad i never went to LSU so what do i know.

APhi Diva · #55 02-02-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by RUASTgrrl
I understand that there is a degree of anonimity here on GC but if she has indeed been pestering the greek life office and panhel adivisor, than word will likely spread. It's unfortunate, but you prob would have been better off not saying anythig about it. But that just my .02 nad i never went to LSU so what do i know.

Nice attitude

I don't think she was "pestering" the greek life office; it sounds to me like she wanted honest information so she didn't set herself up for a fall by going through again if she had no chance of membership. I'm sorry things didn't work out for you, lsugirl....I hope you find some other groups that you'd like to join!

kddani · #56 02-02-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by APhi Diva
Nice attitude I don't think she was "pestering" the greek life office; it sounds to me like she wanted honest information so she didn't set herself up for a fall by going through again if she had no chance of membership. I'm sorry things didn't work out for you, lsugirl....I hope you find some other groups that you'd like to join!

Well a lot of us got the impression that she was pestering... she mentioned just in this post how many times she's called. And alumnae from various sororities called their houses for her. That's paramount to pestering in my book...

LSUgrrl126 · #57 02-02-2005, 04:39 PM

The alums calling the houses was not my idea. They called to see about recs or something, then called me to tell me about the chapter's policy. I didn't ask the alums to call the sororities nor did I even know they were doing it until after the fact.

XOMichelle · #58 02-02-2005, 05:58 PM

geez, seems kind of silly that you can't go through rush again. Maybe ask your friends who are members of the sororities you want to be in? They might be able to help you out.
-M

APhi Diva · #59 02-02-2005, 06:09 PM

Well, whether anyone thinks she was "pestering" or not, it seems to me that she was doing what any of would have done under like circumstances: seeking out the appropriate information before risking the pain of going through again if there was a "cut once, cut always" policy. It seems inappropriate (and certainly not helpful at this point!) to suggest that she could have "messed up" her nonexistent chance to join (given the cut once, cut always policy) by "pestering" the greek life office!

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Originally posted by kddani
Well a lot of us got the impression that she was pestering... she mentioned just in this post how many times she's called. And alumnae from various sororities called their houses for her. That's paramount to pestering in my book...