It's Really Official! Nick and Jessica are over!

[G8Ralphaxi]

Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes
Does it matter that they were married in Texas? Is the law the same? That's something I don't quite understand. Since they didn't sign a pre-nup, does he get half under CA law b/c that's where they live & filed or does it fall under Texas law since that's where they got married?
I truly don't understand these situations. Can anyone explain?

The state of residence is what governs, not where you got married.

If there's no pre-nup, California is a community property state, so what's hers is 1/2 his, and vice versa.

[disclaimer: this is not a legal opinion. i am not licensed to practice law in the state of California ]

[ASUADPi]

Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes


Dignity may be in short supply given Lachey's upcoming plans. The Hollywood Reporter says he's just signed on to star in an in-development WB sitcom, playing a newly married baseball player. No word on whether his small-screen bride will be blonde, buxom and unable to tell the difference between seafood and poultry.

LMAO!!!! Frickin hystrical!!!!!

Seriously that is how she is going to be labeled for the rest of her life as the dumb blonde who asked "is this chicken or fish?'

Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes
"... A while back, Joe was complaining to everyone who would listen about all the alimony Jessica would have to pay Nick," an insider told Us.

I wouldn't be surprised. The man is way too obsessed w/his daughter. I remember watching an episode of Newlyweds where she's filming her Sweetest Sin video & he's talking about her sex life with Nick and how she is free to talk and have all the sex she wants now. That dad knows far too much about what goes on in his daughters bedroom.

Okay that is just wrong. I may be open with my parents but there is no way in hell they are going to know the details of my sex life. Acknowledging that you have sex is one thing, knowing the intimate details is another.

And what did Papa Joe think... that once she got married that she would remain a virgin? Come on, she got married to have sex! Nick stated on like Driven (or some show) that Jessica started pressuring him to have sex when they were engaged but he told her that she had made this "promise" to herself and "to god" that she would wait until she was married and so he wanted her to "abide by it", or some BS like that.

[UKDaisy]

Originally posted by ASUADPi


And what did Papa Joe think... that once she got married that she would remain a virgin? Come on, she got married to have sex! Nick stated on like Driven (or some show) that Jessica started pressuring him to have sex when they were engaged but he told her that she had made this "promise" to herself and "to god" that she would wait until she was married and so he wanted her to "abide by it", or some BS like that.

Papa Joe is soooo werid! I saw that too and maybe its just me: but my dad has no clue about my sex life or my breast size.

I saw that about Nick too. I thought "wow" if thats true. But remember her song "Irrestible". Didn't she write that? Hmmm...

[UKDaisy]

This is write ins on a Jessica fansite.... just a small update

"Hello! I just thought that I would let you know that I just finished watching Entertainment Tonight and it had some interesting things to say about the latest on Jessica and Nick. Here is a brief summary: it opened with them showing pictures, and then a video, of Jessica and Cacee having lunch and how ten to twenty paparazzi waited at the backdoor for them to exit. When they did exit, Cacee opened the door for Jessica on the passenger side and sort of pushed the paparazzi back so Jessica could get in the car. As Jessica got in the car she told the paparazzi “we’re just trying to have lunch guys”. She looked stunning as usual, in a black and white striped top with a dark blazer over it and jeans, but she obviously looked sad. They then said that Nick’s closest sources are saying that it was just two days before Thanksgiving on the way back from dinner that Jessica turned to Nick and told him that she wanted a divorce. Nick was stunned. In the meantime Jessica’s closest sources are saying that things went sour when Nick refused to join Jessica with her family in Texas for Thanksgiving. Anyway, I just though that this might be of interest to you."


"I watched the same thing last night and Laura got some of the things wrong. Jessica did not ask for a divorce at all. She asked for a split. The final straw was that Nick did not want to go to TX. ET also came out to say that the rumors of Jess hiring Angelina's divorce lawyer are FALSE. The reps for Nick and Jess said that talks of divorce are WAY TOO PREMATURE. Also Nick and Jess do talk on a regular basis. E! They also said the final straw was Nicks refusal to go to TX. They also said that there is a definate shot at reconciliation for the couple. Both shows interviewed writers from People Magazine."
• have you noticed?
In the new candids from Orso Jessica is still wearing her wedding band - it's on her necklace! That gives us all hope that she and Nick can work it out!

[texas*princess]

What does it mean Nick doesn't want to go to Texas?

Like to live in Texas forever? Or to visit her crazy parents?

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by ASUADPi
And what did Papa Joe think... that once she got married that she would remain a virgin? Come on, she got married to have sex! Nick stated on like Driven (or some show) that Jessica started pressuring him to have sex when they were engaged but he told her that she had made this "promise" to herself and "to god" that she would wait until she was married and so he wanted her to "abide by it", or some BS like that.

Actually it wasn't just to herself and to God . . . it was also to Papa Joe. He gave her a ring and asked her to stay a virgin until he gave her away. I remember being appalled by that in high school when she was famous the first time around, and surprised that that super-creepy fact wasn't brought up more often after "Newlyweds."

[_Opi_]

Thank God!!

[UKDaisy]

Originally posted by _Opi_
Thank God!!

Thank God what? I'm confused.

[AchtungBaby80]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Actually it wasn't just to herself and to God . . . it was also to Papa Joe. He gave her a ring and asked her to stay a virgin until he gave her away.

What?!? Are you serious? I would've been completely weirded out--not to mention embarrassed--if my dad had done that. Does Jessica think it's OK that he did that, I wonder?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by AchtungBaby80
What?!? Are you serious? I would've been completely weirded out--not to mention embarrassed--if my dad had done that. Does Jessica think it's OK that he did that, I wonder?

Apparently, because she seemingly obeyed. It was probably just so he could sell her as a virgin for publicity. Virginity rings were popular at my highschool for a short time....but no one got them from their dads, as far as I know.

ETA: Notice no one mentions whether he made the same deal with Ashlee. I think he likes having one Princess Angel and one Bad Girl.

[UKDaisy]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog


ETA: Notice no one mentions whether he made the same deal with Ashlee. I think he likes having one Princess Angel and one Bad Girl.

haha You are totally right!

Ashlee has mentioned before that she doesn't want to say whether or not she is or isn't a virgin. She claims its b/c all of the publicity that Jess got. But they never mention whether or not Creepy Papa Joe offered that to Ashlee too.

[UKDaisy]

People Cover Story: Nick & Jessica: Inside the Split
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Nick & Jessica: Inside the Split

After three years of marriage, Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey call it quits. Friends and family tell what went wrong – and what lies ahead for the former Newlyweds

Thursday Dec 01, 2005 6:00am EST

There were aunts and uncles, parents and grandparents, plus plenty of potatoes and pie to go around. But at the Simpson family Thanksgiving celebration in Waco, Texas, on Nov. 24, there was one notable absence: Nick Lachey, whose split from wife Jessica had been announced just one day earlier. "We were sad he wasn't there – we missed him," Jessica's uncle Gary Simpson told PEOPLE. "He is a good guy and we all liked him. We were sorry he wasn't part of the group. There was an empty place."

Despite the still-raw breakup, his niece "is holding up fine," he adds. "She's going to be okay. I know it must be rough on her, but she's doing good." Surfacing three days after the Thanksgiving festivities, the newly single Simpson betrayed no hint of heartache. "She looked great," says an observer at South Beach Tan, a tanning salon in Studio City, Calif., where Simpson – minus her wedding band – and a female pal showed up on Nov. 27. "One of the employees asked her how her Thanksgiving was, and she said, It was beautiful.' She was almost chipper."

Perhaps she was simply steeling herself for the brewing storm. Almost immediately after Simpson, 25, and Lachey, 32, announced their split in a politely worded Nov. 23 statement – "This is the mutual decision of two people with an enormous amount of respect and admiration for each other" – friends of both stars began choosing sides, lobbing accusations in both directions.

The two camps offer different explanations for what went wrong and when. While Simpson's camp says that she was fed up with her husband's partying ways and his refusal to join her family in Texas for Thanksgiving, and that the pair decided to split after an argument the day before Thanksgiving, Lachey's side tells a different story.

One source close to Lachey says that following dinner with pals at an L.A. eatery on Nov. 22, Simpson blindsided her husband on the car ride home. "She said, 'I don't know if this is working. I want to file for divorce,'" says the source. "He was shocked. Nick was saying, 'There are things we can do to work on this, and isn't this worth fixing?' And the answer was no."

The next day, say several sources close to Lachey, Simpson asked if Lachey would still join her family in Texas. He refused, and the couple issued the statement confirming their split. "I know for a fact there wasn't one event that brought it about," says another source close to Lachey. "I think it was a general growing apart, as in most marriages. It's very rare that it's just one thing that causes people to break up. It's usually over time a slow growing apart."

In the ensuing days, the initial high tensions appeared to soften a bit. "They've spoken over the last few days," says a source close to Simpson. "The fact that they're talking is a good sign." Still, as the impact of the split settled in, the couple whose young marriage launched them both into superstardom with the success of their MTV reality show Newlyweds: Nick and Jessica were left to grapple with their new, separate realities. "We love them both," says Lachey's mother, Cate Reinert. "It's a difficult time."

In fact, the last year has been a trying one for the pair, who spent much of their time away from each other – she was in Louisiana filming The Dukes of Hazzard, he was often in Sweden recording his upcoming album – and had to endure rumors of infidelity (emphatically denied by both).

Then there was Simpson's now-you-see-it, now-you-don't wedding band and the couple's third anniversary on Oct. 26, which they spent several continents apart, with Lachey in L.A. and Simpson doing charity work in Africa. Their last public outing as a couple, at a Nov. 16 party at Hollywood club LAX, also fueled talk of a split. "Justin [Timberlake] at one point was making fun of Jessica because she was sitting with her arms folded toward Nick, kind of scowling at him," says an observer. "He was imitating her, like, 'What's up with that?' "

And yet despite all the speculation, friends on both sides say that the official word of a breakup still came as a jolt. "It kept being reported as if they'd split, and they hadn't," says Jimmy Swan, a longtime friend of the Simpson family. "This really was new."

Up until the announcement, the couple had not only steadfastly denied every new report of marital strife, but they continued to sound like, well, a couple of newlyweds on the subject of their marriage. Speaking to People on his recent anniversary, Lachey seemed as smitten as ever. "I wrote a long letter and hid it in her suitcase and made sure she found it today," he said. "You make the other person feel special because it's easy to lose track." He also noted that the couple's recent getaway to Italy provided a much-needed respite: "It was nice to spend some time together."

A source close to Simpson says that the Italy trip "reminded Jessica of what a wonderful relationship she had away from the press, away from her friends, away from his friends." And yet this source says that any lingering vacation afterglow was killed within 24 hours of their return to L.A., when Lachey joined close pal A.J. DiScala, 34, himself newly separated from his actress wife, Jamie-Lynn Sigler, in Las Vegas.

Combined with Lachey's trip to Miami Nov. 18-21, where he hit hot spots Mynt and the Setai with DiScala, "it really upset her that she was at home by herself with the dog and he is with single guys partying," says the Simpson source. "She wondered, 'Do I have to follow you around to clubs to make you happy?' She doesn't like that world. Her idea of a great night is to order Chinese food and ice cream and watch movies."

But those close to Lachey offer a nearly opposite version of events. They say that in fact Simpson had originally been scheduled to join her husband at appearances both in Miami and Vegas, and that he was honoring those prior commitments. Further, the other source close to Lachey says that it was her clubhopping, not his, that caused friction. "Nick is a little bit older than Jess, and he was ready to be more domesticated than Jessica is," says the insider. "I think she still enjoyed the Hollywood lifestyle."

When the pair met at the Hollywood Christmas Parade in 1998, Simpson was an 18-year-old popster deeply in the shadow of Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, and Lachey was riding the boy band wave with his group 98º. Outspoken about her virginity, the Texas-bred Simpson – whose father is a former Baptist minister – instantly hit it off with the Ohio-reared Lachey, whom friends say is the more outgoing of the two.

And yet after their lavish 2002 wedding, Simpson emerged as the breakout star, parlaying her sweetly ditzy Newlyweds charm into a one-woman industry that currently encompasses fashion, beauty, movies and music. "I think Nick liked it much better when he was protecting Jessica and nurturing her," says a source close to Simpson. Counters one source close to Lachey: "Every step of the way in her success, Nick was by her side. He wants nothing more than for her to succeed."

Now it seems Simpson and Lachey will set out to succeed on their own separate terms. Both have upcoming solo albums as well as other projects in the works. And yet even as they begin the tedious, painful process of disentangling their lives – Simpson has been staying at her parents' house in L.A. while Lachey remains at the couple's Calabasas, Calif., home – those who know them do not rule out a reconciliation. "Nick very much loves his wife," says a source close to Lachey, "and doesn't want to get divorced."

The Joe Factor

It was no secret that Joe Simpson disapproved of the union from the start. "Everybody thought, including my father, that my marriage to Nick would kill my career," Jessica told 20/20 last year. At the wedding, said her mother, Tina, "Joe was just miserable." Simpson's spirits lifted considerably as Nick and Jessica catapulted to superstar status on Newlyweds, which he executive-produced.

Attending nearly every shoot, concert and vacation the couple went on, the 47-year-old minister turned manager (who declined comment for this article) stayed close to Jessica. Perhaps too close. "No matter how nice your in-laws are, it must have been really hard to have them a constant presence," says family friend Lynn Zednick Shaw.

While one source close to the couple insists that "the big feud between Nick and Joe ... was played up by MTV to make Newlyweds more interesting," other friends say Simpson's omnipresence irritated Nick. "He controls Jessica's life and therefore has controlled Nick's life," says a source. "I'm not saying they don't have problems, but Nick loves Jessica. I'm telling you, it's Joe."

[amanda6035]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Actually it wasn't just to herself and to God . . . it was also to Papa Joe. He gave her a ring and asked her to stay a virgin until he gave her away. I remember being appalled by that in high school when she was famous the first time around, and surprised that that super-creepy fact wasn't brought up more often after "Newlyweds."

Yeah, this is true - when I went to a church camp in 1995, before Jessica was mainstream (she was still on some christian music label, I think, not many people knew who she was) she performed as one of the acts one night, and she made this huge deal about waiting for marriage and how her parents gave her this gold ring that looked like a wedding band that sad "True Love Waits" and all that. Then, like 2 years later she's gone mainstream and trying to keep up this little act of hers, and she wasn't doing a very good job of it. Not to mention that her music sucked.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by UKDaisy
Ashlee has mentioned before that she doesn't want to say whether or not she is or isn't a virgin. She claims its b/c all of the publicity that Jess got. But they never mention whether or not Creepy Papa Joe offered that to Ashlee too.

Usually when a female doesn't want to say....she's not.

[kstar]

Originally posted by UKDaisy
Ashlee has mentioned before that she doesn't want to say whether or not she is or isn't a virgin. She claims its b/c all of the publicity that Jess got. But they never mention whether or not Creepy Papa Joe offered that to Ashlee too.

Joe isn't as interested in Ashlee, she's not his type.